DeSantis, who opposed Hurricane Sandy relief, now desperate for Biden's aid as Ian ravages Florida

Oh.. A hit piece from the Salon. The Infowars of the left!

 

I think what DeSantis opposes is the government trying to force feed liberal agenda attached to any relief bill like they did with the Inflation Reduction Act which half the money was for liberal agenda and half for Inflation reduction. They are slick like that.

 

What is striking is that the principle donor state funding Florida's federal emergency relief is New York, the state DeSantis had opposed receiving federal emergency tax relief.

DeSantis Suddenly Changes His Tune
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So in your opinion any state in opposition to another state receiving federal relief would be … what? Not allowed to receive federal relief? Pretty sure that would be every state in the union at some point.

 

If that is your opinion, I do not share it.

If you are aware of any New York congressional representative opposing disaster relief funds for Florida because DeSantis had opposed disaster relief funds for New York, who are they?

 

Inflation Reduction Act was more about raising revenue than spending on new programs. If estimates are accurate it will reduce deficits by $300B. Rubio and DeSantis voted against Sandy Relief bill but wasted no time asking for Federal money for Hurricane Ian (which they are getting). Do they look like hypocrites? Of course they do. They opposed the Sandy bill just for the sake of opposing, while many other Republicans voted to pass the bill.

 

FYI, there is an emergency, those needs are an immediate necessity, to the point where that political grandstanding only hurts ones constituents.

BTW, here is another example of Republican hypocrisy.

https://news.yahoo.com/span-one-week-marco-rubio-024413144.html
But Florida's senators, Rubio and Rick Scott, didn't vote in favor of a stopgap spending bill on Thursday that included an additional $18.8 billion allocated to FEMA spending for Hurricane Ian and other natural disasters, HuffPost reported. The bill passed, without the help of 25 Republican 'No' votes.
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Still, Rubio and Scott sent a joint letter to the appropriations committee asking for Hurricane relief support on Friday.

 

interesting that it took THIS LONG for hit pieces. Pay attention to your own Democrat article

Sandy- paying for those without flood insurance

Ian- asking for aid for DEBRIS REMOVAL

apples to oranges

it doesn't take lefties long to try and attack FL

JESUS CHRIST- businesses and homes have disappeared
people have lost their lives
bridges and roads are gone

but most important is team Democrat

 

I don't see anyone attacking FL.

Both Rubio and DeSantis wrote to Biden ans asked for money, but had actually been pre-emptively granted to them so FL will get the money. I don't see anything wrong with their request since it is in fact their State. However, both Rubio and DeSantis did vote against Sandy aid, so they can't avoid looking hypocritical. Either way, its pretty much their job to make the request for their State, so they are asking the Federal Govt to cover 100% cost share for debris removal and emergency protective measures (FEMA Categories A and B) for the first 60 days from landfall.

 

Please. I notice that you didn't address the reference provided but instead ranted like a child for a paragraph, adding all sorts of text size and color changes, about what one poster said you would find. The point is that the information is readily available and since you haven't even attempted to counter it I have to assume that you concede it - which you would do if you had a shred of objectivity.

 

Look, I understand that as a Democrat voter that you must attack DeSantis. What he v0oted against was payment for those who did not purchase flood insurance

What he has requested is aid for debris cleanup, namely, everywhere, not individual homes that chose not to buy flood insurance

I suggest that you look up the definition of disingenuous

 

Exactly, wonder why the democrats didn't offer a stand alone relief bill?

 

If that need is so important and the needs are immediate, then stop taking the time to add a bunch of bullshit spending to the bill.

Sorry, that argument isn't going to work.

 

DeSantis, who opposed Hurricane Sandy relief, now desperate for Biden's aid as Ian ravages Florida

"Biden's aid"?

Where do the "Progressive" Illiterati at Salon come up with this BS?

The aid is coming from the American people...

 

You specifically asked if there was evidence in the thread about someone offering an amendment to the bill. I said no, it hasn't been mentioned. I NEVER claimed otherwise. My claim has always been in regards to the lie this thread is based on (which has nothing to do with amendments to the bill).

Go on and reread my posts if you'd like. You'll find you are wrong....again.

At this point you're just trying to save face. You jumped in with ignorant claims that had already been addressed and have gotten embarrassed.....move on.

 

No, the flood insurance relief bill was to reimburse people who had insurance, but there would be a shortfall of the National Flood Insurance Program due to the extent of homes damaged.

 

Where is the standalone relief bill offered by Republicans like Marco Rubio? Or are they all talk?

 

Tell you what. Go down to the storm hit areas and tell them you are delaying aid because you want to make sure Democrats don't spend too much money on them.

 

Who is adding the BS ?? !!

 

On the contrary, to translate basic English-- since all those editing enhancements can apparently throw off your reading game, quite readily-- Mudman claimed that the "lie of a talking point," I was making about DeSantis being a hypocrite, had been "disproven many times over," earlier in the thread. He also made the statement that, though it is his habit to not give the source or link supporting evidence of any of his claims, we readers can be assured that anything he says, is well supported. So I asked him about those earlier posts, basically how they had proven that the difference between the aid packages, was an excess of pork in the Sandy bill which, otherwise, DeSantis & the other Repubs would gladly have supported (supposedly). Did any Republican actually identify that pork-- elsewise, how could one claim that it was proven to exist? And Mudman's answer was "no," nowhere earlier in the thread, did anyone cite a Republican, identifying the pork. Therefore, his statement about my contention being disproven, earlier in the thread, had been false. What he apparently had meant, was that earlier on, people had made the claim, that the Sandy bill had contained pork which, if you don't realize it, is quite a different thing, from proof.

That is why it is always best to supply a reference, so that people need not rely on anyone's colored interpretation. It also showed that Mudman's claim, that all his words were legitimately backed up, was bogus.

Now, you're turn. How could my merely quoting back our conversation, conceivably be called a "childish outburst?"

 

Oh, no?

mudman said: ↑
You should've read through the thread. This lie of a talking point has already been DISPROVEN many times over.

Desantis is asking for funds to help with the natural disaster, he's not asking for an assload of pork to be attached to a bill that has nothing to do with disaster relief, which is what was the problem with the Sandy bill.
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If I am going to continue conversing with you, I require that you are least understand the meaning of your own words. What you replied, above, clearly claims that the presence of an "assload of pork," in the Sandy bill-- as the reason that DeSantis, in particular, and Republicans, in general, voted against it-- was something that had been proven, "many times over," in the thread.

FYI, someone making a claim, is not "proof," and so does not "disprove," my supposed "lie of a talking point." Had my claim truly been DISPROVEN, as you had claimed, the only possible way would have been for that supposed "pork," to have been identified. Can you not even follow this? If no one mentioned anything about a Republican amendment, identifying this pork, how then, were you claiming that this "fact" about the Sandy bill, had been proven?

 

It dried up and died.

No one will ask you or me about it, but it did require Biden's signature, which he has given.

 

Well those who spoke out against it in the Sandy bill were republicans so I'm guessing democrats.

However, I don't care who adds it. When a disaster happens the bill that provides emergency aid should provide that aid and nothing else. Any politician who tries to get funding for their pet projects in a disaster relief bill is pathetic (my opinion of course).

 

The 'lie of a talking point' that YOU pushed when you entered the thread late was that desantis was against sandy relief. This was already discussed, it was shown to be false. Your insistence that this pork be identified is bullshit. It was stated over and over by lots of politicians who voted against this bill. That you didn't know that is YOUR problem, not mine. It's not my job to show you what you should've already known (you should've never joined the discussion having so little knowledge of the subject).

This discussion shows you'll believe anything as long as it fits your leftist narrative. You jumped in this thread and just believed the talking point and restated it as if it was fact. You clearly knew nothing about the Sandy relief bill. Otherwise you wouldn't be desperately trying to save face by claiming that it was necessary that I list out all the pork that they were supposedly against. Which, btw, I did later (so even by your own standards, you were proven wrong eventually) anyway because you have yet to put forth an ounce of effort in educating yourself on that which you're trying to have a discussion about.

My mistake was thinking you had a ****ing clue what you were talking about when all you knew regarding this was the headline of the salon article which turned out to be a lie.

Do not enter a discussion about something when you're this clueless about the subject matter.

You were wrong, even by your own standards.....that's enough for me....I'll not be wasting another second on this thread that should've died a long time ago.

 

This is Hilarious! According to you, the fact that DeSantis voted against the Sandy Aid, in your mind, does not mean that he was against it. The reason you give, with NO BASIS WHATSOEVER, is that there was a lot of pork in the bill. Oh, I'm sorry, your basis is that this is the pretext that some smarter GOP members gave, without backing it up.

Anyone with an iota of sense, would understand that a Representative who felt this way, would say as much, and would presumably try to remove this, so called, "pork."

In truth, this was DeSantis' stated reasoning, at the time:
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DeSantis, a newly sworn-in congressman, was one of 67 House Republicans who voted against the bill. DeSantis said he sympathized with victims and that those with flood insurance should have their claims paid. But he said that "allowing the program to increase its debt by another $9.7 billion with no plan to offset the spending with cuts elsewhere is not fiscally responsible."
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https://www.politifact.com/factchec...bio-and-desantis-vote-against-hurricane-sand/


Nothing about "pork." So your contentions are all bunk. And DeSantis, since he is no longer making Florida's aid contingent upon a "plan to offset the spending with cuts elsewhere," is a two-faced phony, a self-serving, sausage-sweating opportunist, devoid of any consistent principles.


Deal with it.