does alex jones have free speech?

BLM IS NOT CONNECTED TO THE GOVERNMENT EITHER FINANCIALLY OR IN PERSONNEL.
Governments do not sponsor such divisive social groups anymore than they sponsor The Proud Boys.

 

Wrong.

You most certainly can scream "fire" in a crowded theater, maliciously or mistakenly or truthfully. You might be held liable for the consequences depending upon the intent and the consequences and the various state laws.

 

How do you know BLM has no connection to the government or anyone in the government or the democrat party? How do you know no member of congress or their staff or a federal employee coordinated or communicated with BLM?

Same for The Proud Boys, how do you know there is no connection to the government or anyone in the government?

You believe people in the government (Trump administration) were involved in the January 6 protest. Maybe you should clarify your statement?

Please enlighten us. Don't give us your opinion, tell us how you can definitively make your claim.

 

Yup. That’s what’s happening here.

 

Because I do research.
The phrase "Black Lives Matter" can refer to a Twitter hashtag, a slogan, a social moa movement, Black Lives Matter is grassroots and decentralized, and leaders have emphasized the importance of local organizing over national leadership.[25][26] The structure differs from previous black movements, like the Civil rights movement of the 1950s and 1960s. Such differences have been the subject of scholarly literature.[27] Activist DeRay McKesson has commented that the movement "encompasses all who publicly declare that black lives matter and devote their time and energy accordingly."[28

WIKI

Expressing support for the "Black Lives Matter" movement isn't political or partisan, an independent federal agency has said in an opinion addressing questions from federal employees on the topic.
https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/...san-political-federal-agency-says/5452397002/

I also never said people in the government were involved in the riot Jan 6. I said TRUMP was.
I also said the Proud Boys were connected with people in or close to government, ans mentioned Roger Stone because he has been photographed with them. It was discussed and seen at the last hearing.

Now before you try this constant "Prove it" challenge how about YOU proving BLM is interconnected with the government.

Maybe if you did some research too before you tried your "gotcha" card you wouldn't waste so much time.

 

You obfuscate because you know you are wrong.

BLM is a formal organization, a US corporation, with a board of directors, and an organization. Its not some mythical "idea".

You wrote:

How do you KNOW that nobody in the government - not a congress person or staffer or federal employee - ever contacted or co-ordinated or provided information to BLM or the Proud Boys or any other divisive social group?

 

Sure... just like you can murder someone, and then also be held liable for the legal consequences. We're talking about "rights", though. Not how to split hairs....

 

Your claim was wrong.

Murder is a crime, it’s the consequence of an act, it is by definition wrong and illegal.

Yelling fire is not a crime, even if there are bad consequences it is not automatically a crime.

Interesting you play mr sophisticated until you get caught. Then you try to weasel out of it. Dick would call you disgusting, you don’t deserve that avatar.

 

So is causing unwarranted public panic that results in people being injured. Your post was nonsense. As posts attempting to split hair usually are. Not worth wasting time on my part writing two responses to explain this to you, that's for sure.

 

That's a double negative there. Second, yes I can. A false flag is defined as something disguised to seem affiliated with a group OTHER THAN the one it really is affiliated with. So, whenever we have a mass shooting, what group is being associated with? No evidence to show that conspiracy theory has been shown anywhere in a court of law or by law enforcement. Let's take a look at Stephen Paddock, the 2017 Las Vegas mass shooter.

I make that claim based on evidence. Some mass shootings are personal with innocent by standards either killed or harmed in the way. Some are political by the perpetrator who committed the crime. But a majority of mass shootings involve someone who has severe mental issues of one sort or another such as Nicolas Cruz. Mental health does not absolve them, generally, of the crime, but it may explain what the did and why they did it. But because of the mass availability of firearms, especially from unscrupulous individuals or business entities. And because we are so lax on firearms because of politics, nothing will change.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mass_shootings_in_the_United_States#Summary

https://www.columbiapsychiatry.org/news/mass-shootings-and-mental-illness-5

 

Under penalties of perjury, you are affirming a fact, not opinion, under the law.

 

Kidman doesn’t think facts exist.

 

.The facts according to you opinion.

 

It’s a famous legal case (yelling fire), which an intelligent person would know or look up. I guess that explains why you don’t know anything about.

 

How do you know they did?
Your original accusation was
"How do you know BLM has no connection to the government or anyone in the government or the democrat party? How do you know no member of congress or their staff or a federal employee coordinated or communicated with BLM?

Same for The Proud Boys, how do you know there is no connection to the government or anyone in the government?"

I showed you you were wrong.
BLM is an international organisation funded by private donation. I doubt talking to them indicates any involvement. After all Trump spoke to North Korean officials...does that mean the US is implicated in what NK does?
Now you have moved the goalpost.
Redefined your accusation.
I dont play hide and seek.
Go find a silly argument elsewhere.

 

Oh come on. Opinions do not make facts.
The law is there to differentiate between the two.

 

Unless you have a perfect memory, what you state as fact is only your remembrance or opinion of the facts.

 

You showed nothing.

You *say* there is no link at all between BLM and the government. You offer no evidence,none.

You say the govt does not support divisive social movements, the FBI has a history of meddling. The meddled to smear Martin Luther King and JFK among others, the IRS has been used to target political enemies all the way back to FDR using it to target people who opposed his welfare programs, Clinton used the FBI to get info on Republican senators.

It’s all out there, the govt does get involved.

Prove it doesn’t. We are waiting for your explanation.

 

No.
It is not fact until it complies with reality.
Otherwise it is a mistake.

 

I JUST QUOTED YOU THE DENIAL OF THIS AND THE LINK.
There is no financial or personnel conn3ction between the BLM and the government.

There are independent chapters of BLM all over the world

They are all financed by gofundme or donations.
Rhey have no mutual personnel.

FFS go do your own research and stop repeating your assumptions based on your opinions.
I am not interested in history. If you have proof the US government is involved in BLM, prove it.
And I don't mean surveilling it. Governments follow all sorts of quasi politicsl groups from every cause and creed.
I mean INVOLVED IN IT in the way I indicated.
.financially and in terms of personnel.
Now prove your fairytales. I proved they are wrong.
You do your own effing research.

 

So you have no proof.

Quoting the govt saying the govt isn’t involved is like asking the bank robber if he robbed the bank.

You have nothing. I gave you historical facts about the govt getting involved in a negative way with divisive social movements, you respond with nothing.

 

I just quoted you the proof.
History is not proof of producing repetitions of itself
And do tell me how your government is involved in the completely autonomous BLM UK.
Now hop along and read the link I posted and stop harrassing me.
THEN PROVE TO ME GOVERNMENT IS INVOLVED IN BLM.
I dont want a history lesson about other issues.
This discussion is about BLM, not your suspicions or assumptions.
I will wait for your proof .

While you are looking, read this.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...s-matter-policing-prosecutions-race-goverment

Then tell me why the govt agencies would target a movement they were involved in.

Or as you said,
BLM is a formal organization, a US corporation, with a board of directors, and an organization. Its not some mythical "idea".

Read up on how the BLM operates, its structure, and stop trying to pervert reality.

 

Battle wrote:

How do you KNOW that nobody in the government - not a congress person or staffer or federal employee - ever contacted or co-ordinated or provided information to BLM or the Proud Boys or any other divisive social group?

Because the US government was tracking BLM.
IF YOU HAVE EVIDENCE OF A GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEE UNDERMINING THE WORK OF GOVERNMENT SURVEILLANCE GROUPS, SHOW IT.
You do understand the difference between being involved in something and tracking it, don't you?

 

Battle wrote

You say the govt does not support divisive social movements, the FBI has a history of meddling. The meddled to smear Martin Luther King and JFK among others, the IRS has been used to target political enemies all the way back to FDR using it to target people who opposed his welfare programs, Clinton used the FBI to get info on Republican senators.

Do you know the difference between SUPPORT and TARGET??
The government does not SUPPORT divisive movements.
It TARGETS them in order to discredit them because it does NOT support them .

Real life can be SOOOO confusing. Best you keep it simple

 

That is no proof counselor, that is a claim.

The principle of a false flag is that one party is made to appear guilty of the act, when in fact another party arranges and commits the act.

The assassination of JFK, MLK, RFK and a few others could easily qualify as false flags. "Patsies" like Oswald, James Earl Ray and Sirhan were blamed for acts they did not commit.

Lanza was blamed for acts that were likely not committed at all. At San Bernardino a muslim man and his wife were blamed for killing people that were killed by others. The same general dynamics apply to numerous other shootings, including Pulse and Las Vegas and Parkland. Many of those events were done under cover of "training exercises".