Why are Republicans doing this?

This video illustrates clearly a lot of what I see on right wing media.

"The Red Mirage".

Every where I turn, some republican is telling me that when i vote I cheat.

Now bannon is repeating Trump, he saying 'the only way democrats can win
is if they cheat'.

And then you wonder why we don't like Trump. You think it's done in a vacuum.

You do realize he is the bellows blowing this ill wind, right?

Right?

Please stop it, I mean, really, just stop.

either that, OR PUT UP EVIDENCE.

Our opinion of Donald Trump does not come from CNN, MSNBC, NYT, or Wapo, etc.

Our opinion of Donald Trump comes from Donald Trump.

He does not hide who he is.

He doesn't like it, so he lies about Democrats. He doesn't want
his base questioning his authority, like he told Lesley Stahl who asked him why he hammers the press:

"you know why I do it? I do it to discredit you all and demean you all so when you write negative stories about me no one will believe you"

He doesn't want you to think for yourself, to find out for yourself what the truth is, which is why he says 'fake news' because that will stick in your mind and you will dish it up when someone says something negative about Donald Trump. Like mass hypnosis. It's called a.....

thought-terminating cliché.

 

So you and yours constantly say consrvatives are fascist who are a threat to democracy but don't like it when we say you're going to cheat. Over a year ago MSNBC said republicans were going to cheat and they continue to say it.

The lefts' selective memory should be worrisome; they yammer on about denying elections while they spent 5 years denying an election and now they're concerned about being called cheaters when they spent years calling republicans cheaters.

This is another one of those things were the left does something only to accuse the other side of doing it.

MSNBC contributor: Republicans are 'going to cheat' to win 2022 midterm elections
https://www.foxnews.com/media/msnbc-contributor-republicans-cheat-win-2022-midterm-elections

How Republicans cheat
When they can't win elections honestly, they resort to lying, cheating, and stealing

https://theweek.com/articles/810795/how-republicans-cheat

When Republicans Can’t Win, They Cheat
https://politizoom.com/when-republicans-cant-win-they-cheat/

Eric Holder: ‘Republicans Are Going to Cheat’ in 2020
https://freebeacon.com/politics/eric-holder-republicans-are-going-to-cheat-in-2020/

 

Those isolated incidents way in the past.

And the allegations are via external, LEGAL means, excessive voter roll purges, ballot box restrictions, excessive ID, fewer venues in poor neighborhood, excessive rules making it difficult to vote, gerrymandering, ballot box intimidation, all VERIFIABLE, as documented in the film "Rigged, The Voter Suppression Playbook".

What are Republicans and Trump alleging, much of the time and CURRENTLY?

1. Tampering with the ballot
2. Ballot harvesting
3. Switching ballots
4. Forging dead people's names on ballots
5. Tampering with machines.
6. Voter fraud.

all INTERNAL AND ILLEGAL means, and they are doing it NOW, a lot, much of the time.


And on top of this, Trump's scheme to overturn the election and attack the capitol on 1/6 is WHY we are calling you guys 'semi-fascists' because anti-democratic action is compatible with fascism.

In short, your whataboutism is impotent.

 

1/6 was an isolated incident way in the past. When it comes to the past liberals milk it like no one's business.

And the things you mentioned were all investigated by congress after the 2016 election, but back then the claims also included Russians hacking into voting machines.

Dude, your side is already alleging cheating and the elections aren't until next week.

 

Just one week ago, Hillary (Disc wiping) Clinton claimed that the GOP has a plan to steal the elections.
https://www.yahoo.com/video/hillary-clinton-warns-maga-republicans-143612080.html

She also claimed:
"Hillary Clinton is sticking with her conviction that the 2016 presidential election was not conducted legitimately, saying the details surrounding her loss are still unclear."
https://www.yahoo.com/video/hillary-clinton-maintains-2016-election-160716779.html

The fact is that each party claims that the other side is going to steal the elections in an effort to get their constituents out to vote. Of course that could have a negative impact. Their voters figuring. "Why bother". The real telling sign is that sites like MSNBC, CNN, New York Times, ect, are running articles and on air stories about the fact that the GOP is leading in enough districts to give them the Majority of both Houses. That will have a chilling effect on DNC and left leaning Independents.

 

Why is it you (as in liberals in general, not necessarily as you personally) use the fascist claims when talking about the GOP but supporting fascist actions on behalf of the liberals.

BTW, half of what you claim is nothing more the Myths. Such as fewer venues in poor neighborhoods. That claim was made by liberals about the Georgia Voting laws. It was a lie when they made it, and it is still a lie today. As far as Gerrymandering goes, even Democrats are getting into that act:
https://apnews.com/article/2022-mid...ing-congress-cd274af07040f980fafc1c91aff1e2ac

I challenge you to find one legitimate incident of ballot box intimidation that does not include the New Black Panthers!!!

Also, two election cycles ago are not far in the past. How many times over that last few years has Stacy Abrams claimed that the Georgia Governor's Election was stolen from her during the last election cycle.

Your posts are noting more the the pot calling the kettle black. You whine about what the GOP is doing while ignoring the fact that the DNC is doing the same thing.

 

"""Our opinion of Donald Trump does not come from CNN, MSNBC, NYT, or Wapo, etc.

Our opinion of Donald Trump comes from Donald Trump."""

Did you actually just post this or am I dreaming it?

Evidence comes from an investigation that was never done...

 

You don't want an investigation, you just want the verdict you desire.

 

If someone actually accused you personally of cheating simply by voting, you can (well, should) go ahead and ignore them for being a troll or a moron. But it seems far more likely that people were saying the Democrat Party establishment cheats, and you decided they must have meant you personally, for some reason. That based on the typical conversations I've been involved in, anyway.

 

are they going to put up a fence around the Capitol this election? There will be so many angry Democrats anything could happen.

 

Oh horshit, did you read my post? I repeat:

Repubs have been accusing dems of RIGGING election just about every week of the year since trump was doing it.

Cut the crap.

Like I said, repubs are alleging dems are RIGGING the election .

Occasionally you might hear a dem allege 'cheating' as in voter supression, which isn't particularly illegal,

Repubs are accusing dems of RIGGING the election, switching ballots, fixing voting machines, getting illegals to vote, that sort of thing.

no dem is accusing repubs of rigging, only suppressing. the former is illegal, the latter is just undue influence, and mostly legal as far as I know.

Learn the difference.

1/6 was a major event. Yeah I now you want to sweep it under the rug but not a chance. More people need to go to jail, at the top of the food chain not just the grunts.

 

But she isn't holding rallies and spewing egregious lies. What Republicans are doing is verifiable.
yeah, they are installing party operatives who are going to not certify votes if they don't like the outcome. Things of this nature.

This is real. What republicans are alleging against democrats is NOT real.

Republicans engage in hardball tactics, voter suppression, restricting ballot access, excessive voter registration purges, caging the vote, and now they want to install operatives who will not certify the vote if they doing like the outcome .

This is all very real and verifiable, see the film 'Rigged, Republican's voter suppression playbook'. It's all documented.

These are external methods of undue influence.

That is not what Trump is alleging Democrats are doing, he is alleging dem are tampering with ballots, fixing voting machines all sorts of illegal crap without evidence

learn the difference. There is no evidence Democrats are tampering with ballots, fixing machines, but there is evidence Republicans are engaging in undue influence schemes.

 

I, me, my party, it's all the same. I didn't mean me, personally, I meant my party.

They are accusing Democrats of tampering with ballots, fixing voting machines, getting dead people and illegals to vote, all illegal stuff. wihtout evidence.

Dems are not accusing republicans of this sort of thing. Republicans are doing it externally, such as voter suppression. That's not the same thing.

 

I said our opinion of Donald Trump comes from Donald Trump.

Can you read?

 

Like what? FYI, policies you don't like is not fascism. Fascism is rule of men, rule of law, like it or not, is not fascism.

If half isn't, that's half too much.

Dems gerrymandering is no where near on par with republican gerrymandering.

Nothing dems have done equals what Trump has done.



sorry, the death threats to election officials and congresspersons are all from MAGA people.

 

I bet the average Republican thinks you personally are about as complicit in 'tampering with ballots, fixing voting machines, getting dead people and illegals to vote' as you think the average Republican is personally complicit in voter suppression, fixing voting machines and gerrymandering. I also bet it'd be really hard to find a Republican who would ever claim "I, me, my party, it's all the same." It seems odd to me that you would assume Republicans must mean something different when they say 'Democrats cheat' than you understand Democrats to mean when you say 'Republicans cheat.' Why wouldn't it mean the same thing: 'externally'?

 

We certainly don't want any more election cheating. Honest feedback helps keep extremism in check and frankly the Dems have gotten pretty darned extreme. This election rebuke might hurt but be certain that it's good for you to help keep your extreme elements from getting out of hand.

For example. 'A recent Trafalgar/AMAC Newsline poll found that a staggering 93.2 percent of Hispanic voters reject the Biden administration’s gender lunacy, and surveys show that issues like Critical Race Theory continue to drive voter backlash against left-wing politicians.'

So those are the two keys to being an honest American. No more trying to win by cheating and enough of the extremism. This is the way we leave all this messiness behind us.

 

the Republican Party is a dying party, they no longer have the numbers, all they have now is lies and cheating to try to hang on to power a bit longer

 

republicans caught actual people voting for dead people in 2020, they found out they voted for Trump.... so they gave them hand slaps

they don't really care about cheating, it seems

 

So you think there was Voter Fraud - the election invalid on this basis. pee pee slaps aside.

 

I think all voter fraud was caught and not enough to change the results, as there is in every election, both sides check this very closely, that is why dead voters are always found

but I see how you're trying to distract from the fact that dead people voted for Trump, imagine if they voted for Biden and just got a hand slap

Trumpers cheated, and got caught, that doesn't mean Trump gets a redo if that is what you're asking

 

Not trying to distract from any "Fact" Your irrelevant point is relevant to what that I am supposed to care about Was cheating on the Trump side .. "surprise surprise" .. so what what is the point of reciting the well known fact that during US election there is always some hanky panky on both sides .. So what .. did you have a point that goes with your info. .. moon cookies anyone ? did you prefer the brown or the green ones ? pee pee slaps aside !

 

it was on the Trump side, republicans found dead voters voting for Trump and gave them a hand slap as punishment... sad!

not sure why you replied to my post the way you did, it was a real Trump tweet, no denying it, it is what it is

 

Absolutely not because what Republicans are doing is visible.


It's documented in the film, 'Rigged, the voter suppression playbook' (free on Amazon prime) It's all about external methods of undue influence, voter suppression, caging the vote, limiting ballot venues, voter roll purges, ballot box intimidation, and the like.

That is NOT what Trump is alleging against Democrats, he is alleging internal and illegal methods, such as ballot tampering, fixing machines, ballot switching, illegals voting, dead people voting, fraud.

What Republicans are doing is VISIBLE. They are doing it because, though it's not ethical, it's not illegal (as far as my research indicates) and they are getting away with it.

What Trump and Republicans are alleging against Democrats DOES NOT EXIST because they have yet to produce any hard evidence.


None. zip, zilch, nada.

 

You have seemed to miss my point, and deflected

If half isn't, that's half too much.

Dems gerrymandering is no where near on par with republican gerrymandering.


Nothing dems have done equals what Trump has done.

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Strange, I do not see a source for that picture. Why is that? Because it is not real? The fact is that President Trump told those attending his speech to march "Peacefully" to the Capital. Which is a far cry from Democrats calling for civil unrest when Trump got elected, or when someone was killed by police. The small portion of the protesters that entered the Capital Building damaged a few windows and took some pictures. (One person that posed no threat was shot by the police). Now compare that to all the arson, attacks and property damage created by liberal rioters. If you do a true comparison, the damage done by liberals have far overwhelmed that done by the GOP.

BTW, I have done a Google search on people arrested for threatening poll workers. I found one person in Iowa. All other articles are from nearly a year ago. That person in Iowa was threatening Republicans in Arizona, and he made the threat back in 2021. There are some articles that talk about some poll workers being fearful of what could happen, but nothing about any actual events. So again, much ado about nothing.