Why would anyone vote Democrat this midterms?

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  1. bobobrazil

    bobobrazil Well-Known Member

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    at the time the first A-bomb was a plutonium device, and we had only two others, producing more would have taken months, and the 20 kton units were actually not all that powerful, better?
     
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    Republicans increase the deficit. Democrats decrease it.

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  3. Dayton3

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    Little Boy detonated on Hiroshima was only a 12-15 kiloton device and it used uranium and not plutonium.
     
  4. bobobrazil

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    and the production time???? months you are disregarding that, the first one was trinity device plutonium had to be tested as the implosion method was uncertain
     
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    Irrelevant. You think the Germans are going to continue fighting when Berlin has been reduced to ashes?
     
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    they did didnt they?, look at the pictures of bombed out germany...you speak as if tens of A-bombs were at the ready, when they were most defiantly not (facts dont matter?) lol
     
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    At least he didn't go around constantly attacking the American voter with his rhetoric. Like that fraudulent besmirchment who currently occupies the White House.

    Way to "unite" people Brandon!
     
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    You do know the "red states" you refer to have "blue cities" in them that largely drive the state crime rates don't you?
     
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    Democrats are interested in "the whole" while Republicans are only interested in themselves.

    Historically, both parties were willing to debate on issues without constant insults, accusations and deflection. With the development of the internet, it has become easier for like-minded people to find one another which gave birth to the MAGA movement. They are a very small part of our society but they have louder voices now, inflamed by Trump's paranoid delusions and lies.

    Anti-abortionists aren't concerned with the "sanctity of life" but the power to make choices for others born with the exact same rights.

    As with religion, many people just follow whatever they were told to believe as children. Most people never try to explore other options or choose religion or politics that align with their core values.

    In general, Republicans are disinclined to align themselves with Democrats because of the demonization and systemic bigotry that comes along with learning how to peacefully exist with others that may not share the same viewpoint. For many, anyone outside white, heterosexual and Christian is labeled as "bad" and "wrong" and "sinners", etc.. All of that is just myopic, deep seated self-entitlements and privilege.

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    No. But there were enough atomic bombs to force Japan to surrender. No reason the Germans wouldn't have done likewise.
     
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    pretty much sums it up
     
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    please
     
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    [QUOTE="MJ Davies, post: 1073829922, member: 87050"

    Anti-abortionists aren't concerned with the "sanctity of life" but the power to make choices for others born with the exact same rights.
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    I'm "anti-abortion" and I have no interest at all in "the power to make choices for others". In fact I wish I didn't have to make those choices.
     
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    Survival. The Republicans seem to have a death wish. Even worse, it is for a slow and painful death. The Democrats are into "being alive and working to get better".
     
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    No, just read it at face value.
     
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    Sadly, what was once a great Republican party has become a post policy party with nothing to offer but slander.

    But in truth, we could ask why anyone would vote Republican as well...kind of a silly question designed as a lay up for Republicans and a trap for Democrats.
     
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    How many quotes from republicans do you want me to show you about 'zero abortions'? And Trump's tax break the bulk of which benefited the rich is already on record.
    Sometimes, caring about the little guy requires some long range planning, wherein the short run won't be much fun due to the need to change the landscape for the future, and the future is NOT about oil and gas, these things are polluting the environment and are running out, eventually. We MUST change our strategy..

    You fail to grasp that dependency on oil and gas means we will continue to be subjected to the whims of nations who do not necessarily share our interests who control a good chunk of the supply. For above stated reason and this reason, it is strategically more important to move away from oil and gas, to alternatives, which I think will be electricity and hydrogen, which, in my opinion, have the most promise.

    The switch won't be pain free, so while we are switching, you can bet Republicans will be there at every turn, bellyaching to the moon and beyond.
     
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    I don't think uniting the country is important at all and it never was. And we've been at each other's throats probably shortly after the founding.

    Read up on the accounts in the Continental Congress. You can look at it Alexander Hamilton and Aaron Burr they had a duel. Burr killed Hamilton. Now few decades later we had a civil war.

    The idea that we've ever been United is a scam.
     
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    When you talk about voting against do you mean voting against policies that people say or designed to do these things? If that's the case this is a 100% endorsement of Republican politicians.

    Government policy never makes anything better.

    I think that's the fundamental divide between people like me people you would probably call right wing or conservative and what I call the left.

    I view the government as the cause of most problems and you view them as the solution. If Only They had more control over our lives and stole more money from us they would solve all of our problems how does that work? We can find your governments that have more control over their people and they have some more problems.
     
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    Specific people, it had nothing to do with criticizing large groups.

    No, those MAGA republicans who believe the election was stolen, that's about a quarter of the electorate, maybe less.

    But, he had to call them out, they are a threat to democracy and their is no unifying with them because of it.

    But that wasn't the point, the point was how Trump would disparage specific individuals to dehumanize them and it was unwarranted, that's the difference. He called Omarosa a 'Dog', he insulted Rosie O'donnell, he called Elizabeth Warren 'Pocahontas'

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...c67fb8-9fce-11e8-83d2-70203b8d7b44_story.html
     
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    The hell he didn't. He told his flock THE BIG LIE for over a year before the first ballot was cased that Dems stole the election --- that is the source of the juggernaut of rage on 1/6 that erupted as the attack which he unleashed and DID NOTHING TO STOP FOR 3 HOURS. And when he did, he sung their praises.

    He build that bomb for a year, and on 1/6, he lit the fuse.

    Cut the crap, it's not just about 1/6, it's the entire scheme from start to finish, and 1/6 us just part of it. If you can't see what is blatantly obvious you are in complete denial. Even McConnell and McCarthy agreed.

    The procedures Republicans put in place ? For what? What evidence was there that the election wasn't fair?

    YOU HAVE NO EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER.
     
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    "MAGA Republicans" is a Dem talking point, a classic tactical from Rules for Radicals. Ironically, some Republicans are taking it as a badge of honor.

    They're no threat to Democracy - their are a threat to the autocracy the left wants to build; fascism, socialism, whatever you want to call it, it's NOT DEMOCRACY.
    And you on the left are so prim, dignified and genteel? :eek:
    . Wa Poo opinions carry little meaning.
     
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