Trump calls for the release of 100s of his supporters arrested re: Capitol riot

Again, BBS?

 

Political prisoners.

 

I thought his opposition supported releasing non-violent criminals?

 

I think they held off because of the backlash with the FBI going to MAL. Two people made threats against FBI officers in two locations. One was killed and the other was arrested. Also, that unified some Republicans that had distanced themselves from him and brought in more donations. I agree with their choice to wait until after the midterms to not give Rs a boost tomorrow.


Treason is a crime for which the death penalty can apply.

 

Just simple facts so you can understand

 

Personal attacks aren't "facts". They're proof that the one leveling the attack doesn't know one's ass from a hole in the ground and trying to use intimidation to cover for one's wanting.

 

Trump won't be charged with treason. You know that...lol

 

Do you know how long the trespassing vandals have been in jail?

Thanks,

 

Varies. 46 months was the most I have seen.

 

Oh really. You claim that the charges were dropped because " there is an obvious double standard in our judicial system" which is ridiculous on it's own but the premise that you're saying is that the judicial system is more sympathetic to blacks (BLM riots) than whites (Jan 6) which is beyond laughable. If that is what you truly believe then you are a lost soul.
The charges were dropped for the reason I gave. If you have a reason that you can prove other than your personal opinion, have at it.

 

The reason you gave isn't true and you know it.

 

“The left” didn’t swoon over trump for 40 years.

 

Keep telling yourself that. lol

 

Justice should never stop because of fear of retaliation, instead it should motivate them more and with that additional charge.

 

The reason I gave is true and it's easy to prove even with a google search. It's also very logical.
You on the other hand have nothing to show otherwise, and you know it.

 

Logical, it isn't.

 

Really?! You think the police should take the time to check 14,000 people to see if they may or may not have been a problem? You think that's time well spent.
Logic is obvious beyond your compression

 

Are those people above the law?

 

that was not my argument. My argument was that Trump intentionally left out the Afghanistan government in that deal with the Taliban. By doing that, trump, effectively stated to the Taliban, "Here take over Afghanistan. It is all yours." With friends like that, who needs enemies, as they say.

When the deal was completed and I read it for the first time, with Trump and his officials gloating over it, I knew then Afghanistan would rall rather quickly. It was because Trump threw the Afghanistan government under the bus all in the name of a political pledge, not caring what the long term effects may be. Furthermore, as friends of mine who served over there, some who are quite conservative, were extremely upset at the deal and felt like what they did over there was for nothing, absolutely nothing.

That agreement all but assured the destruction and takeover of Afghanistan by the Taliban. Nothing can dissuade me from that analysis. We left, even our intelligence operations because Trump did not think long term, just short term for a simple campaign promise. It is a reason wny governments were hesitant in dealing with USA politically on international affairs with long term effects. At least between Bush and Obama, we had the same overall goal and all Trump wanted to do is run with his tail tucked in between in legs and call it a victory because he saw no value. Now the Chinese have a perfect place to mine rare earth minerals, you know, those minerals that have high in value to make high tech things like lithium batteries and such. There were other alternatives without that deal and would have brought most of t he Troops home much like what we did in Iraq under Obama. But the Afghan military needed our intelligence sources and even that went away with the deal. No US troops remember?

Trump literally left out, or more likely kicked out, the Afghan government from those dealings and never told anyonbe one in that government. At least Obama did with three parties and that proved to be a nonstarter despite the fact I was against to begin with.

The DoD website literally said we did. They were temporary. But you were the one who said "brought home three bases" in your original argument.

With that agreement, what do you think would happen. Even you said, "we knew they would take over Kabul." And that makes Trump and you more incompetent in agreeing with this diaster. Even General Milley said that you can lay the blame at Trump's feet and policy. Even Pompeo backed away in March of 2021 from that agreement and stated "I should have never allowed that agreement to happen."

It was either that or hung by his entails by the Taliban. The Taliban considered him the enemy because he cooperated with us infidels. So which choice would you have preferred here?

I am not saying the Afghanistan government is perfect, but we have got to stop playing this game that everyone should be perfect. In international affairs, yes corruption, like here, called lobbying, is the norm. Don't like it but deal with it by the horns, not by the tail as you and Trump have done.

And that statement makes Trump and his supporters even more incompetent with that bloody, pun intended, deal.

The other part is you need to look at who was there besides the military. The contractors for the US and Afghan government were there and didn't get the orders or the warnings if the Trump administstration knew. The NGOs were there and they didn't get the memo either from the Trump administration, who you said, knew it was going to happen. So again, no plan by trump and my point still stands.

Biden did make mistakes, but it would have happened even if Trump was president. All Trump will do is blame everyone else like he always does and never takes responsibiltiy, like he always does.

Actually, I have, you are just not paying attention and living in your own alternate universe is a galaxy of nowhere.

 

We weren't at war with Afghanistan. But you think we should keep Americans there to be murdered for a 1000 year war that will never end as that would be the only alternative.
Sad we have people like you in the US

Bullshit. You don't know ANYBODY who served in Afghanistan. Now your just faking information for lack of facts. I HAVE been to Afghanistan. And the reason WE (Not YOU) felt like we were there for nothing, is because we changed nothing. And nothing we could ever do would change anything. It has nothing to do with Trump. So stop with your bullshit faking information about our soldiers when you clearly got your fake claim from your own lefty bullshit media. You are a disgrace for falsifying what soldiers were claiming for your political BS.

The Taliban is the only thing that assured the destruction and take over of Afghanistan and the only thing standing in their way, was the blood of American troops.
Which you would be more than happy to sacrifice just so you can have a woke political opinion.

Another uneducated fake claim for your political propaganda. The entire planet knew of the agreement even Afghanistan.
What a fake

Another uneducated fake claim for your political propaganda.
Nowhere on the DOD website does it claim we built bases in Afghanistan.
What a fake

No, It means you would love to continue to see American soldiers get blown apart so you can keep your illiterate claims about Afghanistan to have your propaganda against Trump.

And yet more Afghan illiteracy from you. Everyone knew the bases Trump evacuated. Everyone knew of the soldiers Trump brought home. Everyone knew of the agreement PUBLISHED and signed. Everyone knew we would be out by May. Everyone but you of course.

FALSE
Trump would have evacuated Kabul by May as agreed with no intervention from the Taliban as they didn't even arrive until August.
Dumbass Biden and his woke followers decided it would be cool to do it on 9/11 for a photo op.
Read a book for God sakes instead of slurping up some much of your media bullshit you have no clue about

 

Which people? The ones that did damage or the ones "suspected" of doing damage. You are consistent. You consistently show you don't really get it.

 

The war on terrorism was in Afghanistan and we are at war with terrorists, mainly the Taliban, ISIS, and AQ, and their remnants. The Taliban were the former rulers of Afghanistan and they allowed and were in cahoots with OBL on his second attack in NYC by a whole bunch of middle-class Egyptians and Saudi Arabians. That being said, the legitimate government of Afghanistan was also at war with the Taliban. What we did was we threw the current Afghanistan government under the bus all in the name of a campaign promise.

Yes I do, mostly some family members of mine, extended family members of mine, a couple of sons of my former high school classmates, and a few others. It is not that hard. Even where I used to work we had several veterans who served there in the early days working where I used to work. You can't dismiss that

On the other hand, then you have these articles, all of whom the veterans were asking that very same question:
https://pamplinmedia.com/pt/9-news/...eterans-react-as-taliban-seizes-afghanistanÂ

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/taliban-afghanistan-veterans-gold-star-families/

https://abcnews.go.com/US/afghanist...ountrys-shocking-rapid-fall/story?id=79540112

And yet, Trump took them at their word, a terrorist organization. Furthermore, they never followed through on their promises, did they? Their idea of "negotiations" with the current Afghanistan government was to simply take over the country and that is exactly what they did, didn't they? Even you said that the Trump administration knew that was going to happen. And that means my argument stands.

Making that statement without any evidence or a hint of an argument shows that your words are only that, words and nothing more. But again, taking the word of Terrorists who have not kept their word in over four decades shows that Trump had no idea what the hell he was doing, and did the agreement to fulfill a campaign promise without even consulting or advising the current Afghanistan government. A joint statement by the Taliban and the United States was for show for the Taliban.

Actually, it does. But you are only reading what you want to read on the DoD website to fit your myopic political agenda. Do you really think that Camp Leatherneck and other military bases came fully equipped to service our troops while stationed there?

Son, any senior NCO or officer knows that the hardest decision to make is to send people into battle knowing that some will die. No one and I do mean no one wants to see people die but the mission is to protect Afghanistan from a terrorist organization called the Taliban. By your own statement, you are making Trump look even more foolish, among other things.

And yet, the Taliban took them over anyway after starving the Afghanistan military into submission in those provinces. But your agument just further exemplifies your blind loyalty to Trump, not the country all in an effort to keep a "campaign promise." This is what we call the modern-day equivalent of Benedict Arnold.

There was no plan by Trump. Your argument is a could've, would've, and should've argument based on false perceptions. Trump did not care and does not care about anyone or anything. He will say or do anything to get what he wants, does not think things through, and only lives for the instant. PERIOD.

 

I'm not wading through your imaginary thought process. You obviously have no clue what your talking about and even when historical facts are provided you prefer your own imagination over historical facts.
So I'll make this easy for you.

No American soldiers were killed by the Taliban in the 18 month treaty with Trump as per the agreement.

The Taliban released its Afghan prisoners as provided in the agreement with Trump.

The Taliban did not interfere with the evacuation of Camp Dwyer Marine base as per the agreement with Trump.

The Taliban did not interfere with the evacuation of Camp Leatherneck as per the agreement with Trump..

The Taliban did not interfere with the evacuation of Shindand Air base as per the agreement with Trump..

The Taliban did not interfere with the evacuation of the soldiers brought home as per the agreement with Trump..

We did not build any bases in Afghanistan as you claim the DOD website says.

Nowhere on the DOD website does it claim we built any bases in Afghanistan as you claim

Every base we occupied was already in existence. All we did was bring equipment and soldiers.

Now if you think you are packing the gear to dispute those statements, knock yourself out.
But you can't and you won't. All you have is leftist propaganda Trumpisms which is why you make wild claims based on your own imagination.
So show us all how much you know. Dispute the statements
I DARE YOU

 

All of those happened in December 2020 when Trump withdrew some 12000 troops to reduce the troop level down to 8700 or so. We also did it in the middle of the night, gave the bases to the Afghan military. But once we left, the taliban literally, quite literally, starved the afghan forces there into submission. Period. how in the hell did they get those bases in the first place?

 

First we have some housecleaning to do.

1. When you stated

You are admitting you were wrong as indicated by your own (new) confession agreeing with the actual facts I provided of what the Taliban did to abide by the agreement and that Trump did evacuate 3 bases and 13,000 troops
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2. When you stated

You were wrong as indicated by your inability to dispute the actual facts I provided as we did not build any bases in Afghanistan (like you claimed) and nowhere on the DOD website does it say we built bases in Afghanistan.
Or you would provide the information quoted, but you can't because it doesn't exist
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3. When you stated

You are admitting you were wrong as indicated by your own (new) confession

Meaning you KNEW of all the things I listed that happened and you KNEW Trump had abided by the agreement, and you KNEW he did have a plan because he did evacuate 3 US military bases, and brought home the troops.
Yet you knowingly falsified post about Trump doing nothing and Trump not having any plan.
Didn't you.

And to add more crow on the plate to eat, you just admitted that Trump was able to evacuate 13,000 troops and 3 military airbases without a single Taliban intervention in just 30 days, yet Biden couldn't evacuate 2500 troops and one base in 7 months.

Thanks for playin
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