Is wokeness the remedy to fascism?

Understanding why they're so opposed to self-determination, is the key here. It's not really about compassion, or justice, or anything they might tell you. It's about avoiding liability for failure.

It also helps to convince yourself that nothing is anyone's fault .. it's always someone else's fault (never stopping to to consider that if nothing is anyone's fault, who are the someone's whose fault everything is?). That's a comfort - plus it absolves you from your own liabilities, and provides you with a steady supply of 'victims' to lord it over.

 

No wokeness indistinguishable from fascism.

 

So you don't like capitalism?

 

Is wokism compatiable with collectivism? Some may think not.

 

I repeat this often, but it's important.

The woke are nowhere near being communist. They're the very last people on earth who would either want it or tolerate it.

 

EG the millions who exploit the socially responsible by refusing to earn their keep. That's some hardcore street level worship of Mammon.

 

Wokesters want government enforced thought and speech control. That's part of what makes them Communists.

 

You said "Hey, it aint my nonsense." Well... I debate with YOU only. I don't debate with people who are not here. If YOU have something to say... YOU say it. And stand by it! Don't try to evade by blaming others for nonsense YOU posted.

 

Don't see them moving to Venezuela or North Korea though.

 

I'd say it's detrimental to even collectivism. It's essentially a contest to see how much you can attack your fellow man.

It's like calling someone a witch.

 

That's actually fascist. Communists have fascist tendencies.

They aren't opposite ends of a spectrum they over lap.

 

I think you got it wrong. The Right uses many terms without knowing what the term means – they accuse Democrats of being communist or socialists without understanding what communism and socialism is, and the same with ‘wokeness’.

But there is some behavior on the Left, which the Right calls ‘wokeness”. I don’t care how you want to call it, but for me it is weird:
Defund police
Political correctness
Accusing everyone who does not agree with them as being fascist and racist.

I don’t care if you call it “wokeness’ or plain stupidity.
My experience with ‘wokeness’:
I like to hike and after a long hike usually my toes became black, it happens to many hikers. I was thrown out of hikers forum and accused of being racist for posting picture of my black toes with sign: Black Toes Matter”.

 

They're different sides of the same coin.

 

Well... looks like what you're saying is that I got it right. Because that's what the OP says. It's the product of right wing propaganda fed to them every day by their media.

You have listed things that right-wing media SAYS represent the left. They don't!

I don't call it either. I call it made up nonsense. Exactly of the same kind that you describe in your opening paragraph. I'm afraid you fell for the same propaganda that you describe there.

 

I explained that CRT 'scholars' contributions to 'wokeness' make it rather farcical. Then I cited such contribution. By calling the contribution I cited 'nonsense', does that mean you agree? If so, I don't see the problem. If not, feel free to explain why...

 

I have no idea. You haven't even stated what is supposed to be "farcical" about it. You just assumed that anything anybody writes about CRT becomes "dogma". That might be how it works in Trump world. In Academia scholars publish opinions which are either shared by others or not.

In fact, calling it "farcical" is utter nonsense and meaningless. It's either right, or it's wrong. If you believe it's wrong, you must explain what is wrong and why.

Now... having said that, I read what you quoted, and it makes sense. What YOU wrote is what I would consider "farcical"... and WRONG. But it has nothing to do with what you quoted.

 

CRT is self refuting someone being a "scholar" in that is in itself a farce.

 

That's hilarious! Do you even know what the world "scholar" means?

Don't bother... obviously not.

 

Communisism is another name for collectivism .. which basically just means everyone must earn their keep. Or, 'work to eat'.

Wokesters want something which is the polar opposite of that. They want people who do little or nothing to feed and house themselves, fed and housed. That's basically ANTI-collectivism. The closest analogy (to their goals) is probably a form of medievalism .. where working stiffs must labour to feed arisotcrats who do nothing.

 

Exactly.

 

False? Its so bad that even MSNBC picked up on it. And here's a professor from Princeton actually defending it and spinning away so much that even the MSNBC host called him out on his red herring.



And that was just 7 months ago. This has been going on for years now. You can pretend you don't hear about any of it if you wish. You can try and deflect and blame Fox News if you wish. But when your own side starts reporting on it, then you know its getting pretty bad.

 

. Well then its close cousin IS being taught. You're trying to cling to a college level academic label which has been broaden and expanded greatly. Call it what you choose. It makes no matter; the "it's all whitey's fault" theme still comes through.

 

Actually I did. Perhaps you didn't bother to even read it...

Here it is again. What I cited from the 'literature':

Critical scholars define racism as a systemic relationship of unequal power between White people and people of Color. Whiteness refers to the specific dimensions of racism that elevate White people over people of Color. Basic rights, resources, and experiences that are assumed to be shared by all, are actually only available to Whites. Although many Whites feel that being White has no meaning, this feeling is unique to White people and is a key part of what it means to be White; to see one’s race as having no meaning is a privilege only Whites are afforded. To claim to be “just human” and thus outside of race is one of the most powerful and pervasive manifestations of Whiteness.

Repeat of my explanation:

It seems to me 'the feeling that being white has no meaning being unique to white people', 'seeing one's race as having no meaning is a priviledge only whites are afforded' and 'to claim to be just human and outside of race is the most powerful and pervasive manifestion of whiteness' translates to precisely what I said it does: 'white people are racist because they're less racist than other ethnicities.' If you can make a different sense out of DiAngelo's gobbledygook here, be my guest...

Further clarification:
Unless you have a better explanation of what this CRT scholar is trying to convey, this would be an example of the sort of thing I mentioned previously that lends to criticism of 'wokeness'. This all, assuming of course we can agree that CRT and 'wokeness' are closely linked, which I base on your assertions that CRT teaches "a failure built into the system (hence the term "systemic racism")" and 'wokeness' is "state of being aware, especially of social problems such as racism and inequality".

 

You supported bring that conspiracy theory and pretend it's a scholarly endeavor.

When someone so lacking an intelligence takes stabs it my knowledge it's really rather toothless.

CRT is a scam just because people waste their lives in academia doesn't mean they're immune to scams it probably means they're more susceptible as long as they're dressed up and academic window dressing.

 

Communist/socialist governments have a tendency to be fascist as well. Let's not forget they killed 110 million people in 100 years.