Mass Killings at Virginia Walmart

How about an example?
Would you support a ban on AR-15 ownership?

Thanks,

 

I have explained on this board, hundreds of times-where the line is to be drawn and that federal bans on weapons designed for offensive purposes or attacking an area-involve a tenth amendment issue not a second amendment-a right that is based on the natural right of self defense. I also argue the time honored theory of estoppel: governments cannot issue weapons to civilians for use in a civilian environment and then categorically claim such weapons have no legitimate use in the hands of other civilians-many of whom are better trained and more intellectually capable than government agents

 

No.

 

Any other specific things you would like to see.
Sometimes there is common ground.

I would focus on making mental health care more accessible and affordable to reduce the homicide rates.

Thanks,

 

Here’s the shooter. Apparently he may have been a little paranoid.

https://nypost.com/2022/11/23/chesapeake-walmart-shooter-andre-bing-feuded-with-coworkers/

 

Since you sound like you aren't an American, why don't you just stay in your lane?

 

Will this be considered a hate crime, I wonder?

 

The Walmart murders? HATE crimes? No way those can be 'hate-crimes' -- not if a BLACK did the murdering.... Only non-Blacks are capable of committing 'hate crimes'... right...?

PICTURED: Walmart manager, 31, who shot six co-workers dead in 'planned' break-room massacre - as Virginia cops find 'death list' of names next to his body

• Andre Bing, 31, has been named by Walmart as the shooter in Tuesday night's attack in Chesapeake

Link: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...rt-worker-22-six-killed-manager-Virginia.html

 

This is referred to as “the weekend” here in Houston. Blacks shooting blacks and whites is just a crime, but whites shooting blacks gets elevated. It’s Because of stupid people who pointlessly attempt to elevate crimes while ignoring criminal history.

 

Has he been labeled a MAGA Republican white supremacist yet?

Any timetable?

 

I have never seen any great argument to ban the AR-15.

 

Do you mean at this forum or as a point of national debate?

 

If only your "porous borders" could not stop illegals immigrants, ey, this massacre would not have occurred.

/sarc

 

The problem is you are no longer following your own axiom of unlawful conduct. Why do you keep quoting the term when you wish to mangle the very meaning of it? Essentially you what to change the laws, which I can respect, but you want to disguise it under this larger umbrella of only punishing the criminal act and not simply make things unlawful by statute but you are doing that very thing when you propose your lines. It is like saying yeah my lines are right but your lines are wrong. It makes me think the only reason for the Latin quote is you are trying to convince an uneducated audience that you are smart because you certain are not supporting the principle.

Again why? There is no logical connection between the 2. Just because the government trains or licenses a civilian to use a tool or substance in the job does not mean it should be publicly available. Especially given the main difference is the weapons or tools are given by the government to use under their purview whether it is in war or law enforcement. This is a controlled situation with a hierarchy and a define set of checks and balances exist. What you have done is made a connection your mind that there should be some type of equivalence. There is not steadfast logical rule for this. Someone can operate explosives in a mining job. Does it mean people should have the same explosives at home? And really why? What is the connection?

 

Neither really. The AR-15 is a gun that while I will admit is the choice of mass shooters is not significantly different from other similar weapons. It has become a poster child of the gun control lobby. I have seen no evidence presented that a ban of this weapon would stop mass shootings. Logically if the person wanted to shoot up a place they would pick the best option available. If the AR-15 wasn't available I do not believe they will say "I guess I can not do my mass shooting anymore and just live out my life peacefully". They would pick the next best thing. Simply do a google search "Gun comparable to AR-15 available to public". A ban on a single weapon will not make any difference IMO.

 

And, it is a 'sad-but-true' fact that Blacks commit the most violent crime in the United States on a per capita basis. It's been true for many years.

But no one dares describe any those violent crimes as "hate crimes", or else he'd be called a RACIST....

Prediction: the media will be continue to be going on and on about the shootings at the gay bar here in Colorado LONG after they've stopped making any mention of these more recent shootings at the Walmart in Virginia. Gee...I wonder why that will be.... Could it be because the Colorado murders were committed by a WHITE guy, and the ones in Virginia by a BLACK...?

 

There is a Gun available to the Public that has even more punch than a AR-15 shooting .223/5.56, it's called a AR-10 and it shoots a .308/7.62. I own one of these and let me tell you a .308 has much more destructive force than a .223

 

I guess guns are a good solution to racism in more than one way. Black? No one voting for you? SUPPORT GUN RIGHTS. Problem solved

(and yes, I realize she was a good vote for many other reasons. I'm mostly kidding)

 

Eugene Stoner was a god! Anyone who graduated or qualified with the KA SR25 stand up! Looks like some DD furniture on that beast. Very nice.

 

You're 100% right about the .308! It's quite a great deal more powerful than the .223, which has been derided by some through the years as a 'varmint caliber'. The .308's bullet maxes out at 200 grains, but it compares very favorably with the more powerful 30-06 (because of its longer case). Frankly, I think the AR-15 is rather overrated, mostly because ignorant libs go into a panic every time they even hear the name. Give me a good old Remington 742 Woodsmaster 30-06 over an AR-15 anytime.

 

It never would have passed in the first place without the sunset. Thats why the sunset was added. Democracy.

 

Some of the strongest gun laws in the country.

Liberal left strong hold.

Why isn't your agenda working?

https://graphics.suntimes.com/homicides/

 

You're right.
I should have clarified that I really meant "assault rifles"

 

You and your passive aggressiveness, lol, how cute.

 

Some of my best friends are Americans.
I'm just frustrated that nothing ever changes.
I'm just telling you what most of the world thinks.
In my backyard guns are far more difficult to get hold of and despite all the stories about stabby London we only have about 600 homicides a year which is a rate per pop far far lower than yours.
Twice since Saturday innocent Americans have been slain for no other reason than you refuse to have universal healthcare to assist those with mental issues or have restrictions on gun ownership.
So yeah, nothing to do with me but you still need to buck up and bloody do something about it other than stick your head in the sand or shout my freedumb and my rights.
Well your children should have the right to go to school without having to have active shooter drills and everyone should have the freedom to go shopping or nightclubbing or to a concert or a cinema or a church or a synagogue or even a mosque without some nut job with a gun they should never have been allowed to possess in the first place bursting in and murdering them.