Mass Killings at Virginia Walmart

I did quote it directly

You are running

 

The Viet Cong and the Taliban succeeded with their little arsenals against the mighty US military.

Also I wonder if US soldiers would really shoot down US citizens. Maybe that is why the military is purging the unwoke and recruiting trans soldiers.

 

Then why don't other industrialized countries have the problem with guns that we do?

 

This right-wing fantasy that armed citizens somehow keep an evil government in check is just that. It's a democratic government, one that we elect and one that is made up of our fellow citizens, from our states and districts. Why would you think that these people will suddenly "destroy the republic" and "cancel elections"? And you know full well that our military would not support such a coup. It's made up of patriots who fight to defend that freedom. Our military embodies the spirit of the Second Amendment, in fact -- it is the well regulated militia now that the actual militias of the time have been replaced by it.

We can also look to the rest of the free world, where it's obvious that people don't need mountains of guns in civilian hands to maintain free, democratic government. A good democratic system is stronger than that.

And finally, any such armed conflict here would only give rise to the very thing that the gun nuts fear, because violence and hatred is no foundation for establishing a free, democratic society. America would instead resemble eastern Ukraine, and players such as China and Russia would likely be no less involved since they have a vested interest in seeing us destroy ourselves.

 

democrat gun schemes haven't either and they have harmed honest people. The NRA supports harsh penalties on real criminals while the Democrats use gun control to protect criminals while pretending their schemes are actually designed to stop criminals.

 

Study history for the last 300 years and get back to us. and Mexico and South Africa and many other countries have much higher rates of gun violence than we do. BTW the group with the highest rate of LEGAL gun ownership in the USA-whites-don't have a violent crime rate with firearms statistically different than whites in Euro nations with strict gun control

 

I suspect your dislike of gun ownership has almost nothing to do with your unfounded speculation that an armed society remains free.

 

what causes your dislike of citizens being able to own guns?

 

Yes, I would gladly support three out of four of your excellent suggestions. I do feel that the death penalty for drug dealing is excessive though.

I've been around loaded firearms my whole life and even remember taking a 9mm 1923 German Luger (unloaded) to school for "Show and Tell" when I was about 12 years old.

In our suburban neighborhood, just about all the children had access to loaded firearms but the idea of shooting up a school or each other was never even the slightest consideration to any of us.

I do remember target shooting in our basement as a child when my parents were out of town. Since my poor parents of 3 destructive and hyperactive boys didn't buy the "concrete eating termites" story as an explanation for the bullet holes in the cinderblock wall, I got another of my innumerable well deserved spankings.

Anyway, since firearms are an omnipresent reality in the US, I agree that firearm safety should be taught in the schools possibly as early as Middle School to demystify firearms and primarily show the damage they can do by showing some photos of exit wounds.

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I definitely feel that detecting and treating killers before they kill should be a major focus of our underfunded mental health care system.
I worked as a Psychiatric Case worker on an inner city Psychiatric hospital and also as a Counselor and Case worker in our Juvenile Justice System. In both situations I frequently had to pay out of my own pocket to help care and treat the people for whom I was responsible. I also saw too many people turned away who clearly needed treatment for lack of space and funding.

Neither should be the case in a country as wealthy as America and I feel that the main reason that there are fewer homicides in some countries is because Mental Health care is more readily available, accessible and affordable.
We can do better.

Thanks,

 

I'm not. Please read
http://www.politicalforum.com/index...rginia-walmart.605842/page-11#post-1073866750


It's just a right wing fantasy that people who want gun control organized in a proper way somehow could ever mean that lawful citizens all must handover their weapons. This doesn't happen with how we drive on roads either. That's all strictly organized with drivers licenses for adults only, number plates and car registration numbers stamped in the chassis.... not prohibiting the very fast population to drive.


And so it seems that you apparently aren't a lawful citizen and scared you have to hand over your weapons.

 

Right. A very disturbing picture demonstrating gun violence against clay pigeons. lol

 

why do you not understand a right vs a privilege?

 

we don’t have a problem with guns.

we have a problem with cultures and criminals.

 

They don't butt up against the most violent places on Earth for one.

If you removed minority committed murders, we'd have a homicide rate equivalent to that of Belgium/Finland.

 

Clearly you have the wrong idea of why we firearm owners have firearms..

 

MPO, and it has to be, that only felons, thugs and illegal ownership be allowed! Think about it, how many rants do you read here of the anti gun owners calling for the disarm of the ghetto's and inner-city thugs and gang members?

None would be a good answer

 

Clearly they don't understand how much people needed guns when their little black dressed, Hammer and Sickle democrats were running around burning the country down.

Even the dumbest person that was anywhere near that woke up.

 

And that lends credence to my opinion that in the eyes of a Democrat, illegal gun ownership is what they really support ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

so you deny the incremental scheme to disarm Americans? No one has suggested using motor vehicle registrations to confiscate those cars. Look into what happened to handguns registered in England prior to the ban

 

Lots of woke lefties blame an "unjust society" and "racist legal system" for the plight of many violent criminals so they think it is unfair that an intended victim might shoot the poor mope for doing something society forced him to do. Others think only the government is wise enough to have arms and oppose lawful gun ownership for that reason

 

Well, I did not know! But it does have a ring of truth to it

 

It's hard to tell what has caused so many dems to coddle violent criminals but that is one part of it. the other is that anytime a politician calls for more law and order-the usual yapping mouths start screaming "racism" and white privilege and other nonsense even though blacks are the usual victims of black thugs

 

The more the people are afraid, the more power democrats have.

They proved that during the "pandemic" more than ever.

 

Yup. That's just a right wing conspiracy theory.

Indeed.
A registration of cars has not resulted in large scale of confiscating cars.
To make people get a driver license has not resulted in large scale of banning people to drive or own cars.
So nothing suggests that this system would unfold to a different outcome with guns.

What about it? They may only have shotguns for pest controle, and a handgun may only be used on a licensed gun range or for hunting. With that, they rule out that it's not allowed to use them to protect your property. And so this system can not apply in the US. The 2nd amendment prohibits it.

 

you apparently are ignorant of well publicized quotes by leaders of the anti gun movement including Diane Feinswine and Pete Shields where both admitted that they incrementally want to get rid of guns. Neo Con gun hater Charles Krauthammer admitted that the main reason for the clinton gun ban was not to stop crime but to "desensitize" Americans to necessary and increasing restrictions and bans on other guns. We know this is true because those pushing a given gun law always say one of two things

1) when they are trying to pass it, they claim it is all they want and deny it is a move to bans but when
2) they pass it-we are told it is a good "first step"

handguns are almost completely banned in the UK. very few people who are not police can continue to own one after the ban. The British olympic pistol shooters have to practice with air guns or abroad. they cannot keep their 22 short rapid fire or free pistols