CDC rains on Fauci farewell, as COVID becomes pandemic of the vaccinated

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    The same day retiring National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Disease Director Anthony Fauci urged Americans to get the new Omicron-targeting COVID-19 boosters, a sister agency accidentally pulled the rug out from under him.

    The so-called bivalents, composed of the outdated BA.4/5 subvariants and Wuhan strain, have less than 50% absolute vaccine effectiveness (aVE) against symptomatic infection for every vaccinated adult age group compared to the unvaccinated, according to the CDC's Nov. 22 Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report. It's particularly bad for those 65 and up: just 22% aVE.

    The figures for relative vaccine effectiveness (rVE), which compares the vaccinated receiving a bivalent booster to not receiving one, show that protection is generally strongest for those who stopped at the primary series — two mRNA doses, no boosters — and who waited the longest between doses.

    The data reviewed by the CDC come from the Increasing Community Access to Testing nationwide program, covering about 360,000 nucleic acid amplification tests from nearly 10,000 retail pharmacies from Sept. 14-Nov. 11.

    The findings come as COVID has become a pandemic of the vaccinated, with 58% of COVID-attributed deaths in August coming from vaccinated or boosted individuals, according to a Kaiser Family Foundation analysis







    read more news: https://justthenews.com/government/...-covid-study-finds-low-effectiveness-bivalent






    This is a most interesting development. The timing was quite rich too. I’m glad that I stopped at the initial two doses with no boosters.
     
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    It would seem from this that the boosters were the big mistake.
     
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    58 percent…is that real? Haven’t looked into this yet but yikes if true.
     
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    Your point about the boosters is valid, but we must always keep in mind that this has been an experiment, and only Pharma knows the parameters of the experiment. Only Pharma knows the strength and composition of the various batches of the serum, though many scientists around the world have analyzed and established the composition of the bottles they have managed to acquire and examine. What is certain is that they are toxic to human health.

    So your point that this trend of the death rates of those who took the shots is not really a recent development, but that some mainstream media are now admitting the obvious IS a recent development.

    Those doctors and scientists who've been dissenting from the Pharma narrative for 2 years have very much predicted this.
     
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    It seems that the stats are true. Also those like me who are over 50 and had just the initial two shot Moderna or Pfizer and no boosters will be ok compared to other groups.
     
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    One of the key factors that's going to stem from all of this is that we will be able to remove the liability protections from pharmaceutical companies. Putting their own skin back in the game will keep them from putting faulty products into the marketplace, along with a closer collaboration with the CDC.
     
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    Yeah what could go wrong.

    Companies like Pfizer, that have engaged in some of the most egregious behavior possible, have a product that we are forced to take, which made $8 billion for them, that they can't be sued for regardless of what it does, are surely being ethical here.
     
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    More bad news for Fauci. I wonder how much money he made from the virus. I read somewhere he had a stake in the china virus vaccine patent.

     
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    He made over $5 million dollars in two years on a $400k salary.

    I expect to hear him taking a position at Pfizer or one of the other companies very soon.
     
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    I expect to hear him take the 5th in 2023.
     
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    Blaming him for his salary is just out and out stupid.
     
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    The last thing anyone is blaming Fauci for is his salary. Asking him how much money he made on the side profiteering from the virus is perfectly legit. Plus, did he have a finger in the creation of the virus?
     
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    This thread should really be in the covid forum, which has morphed in the last year to a conspiracy forum full of anti vaxxers and Fauci haters. It figures who the usual suspect are posting in this thread.
     
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    Either the boosters kill you, or the people who are most likely to get boosters are also those most as risk.
     
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    I decided not to consume this product. I feel bad for those that were forced to choose between being a lab rat and being employed.
     
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    Where did the other 4+ million dollar payments come from.

    Royalty payments by the products of the companies he wanted to force everyone to take.
     
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    Loll....what? I didn't make any allegations, I asked the same questions many, many others have also asked.

    I'm stark raving mad, eh? Nice.
     
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    I got the first two shots because I had to. They made a mistake with me because they injected me when I had symptoms (no smell or taste) but they asked me if I tested positive I told them I hadn't been tested yet (and why not? Everyone I lived with tested positive, it would have been a miracle if I didn't catch it, so the assumption by me was I had it because of the symptoms). After the second jab I developed chest pains that lasted for a few months. My wife told me to never get the boosters or she would kick me in the nuts. My wife and kid were never jabbed, my mother in law has all the shots (she lives with us) and my father in law, who doesn't live with us, had 4 shots and still got the virus a month ago.
     
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    Over and over again. Or he will refuse to testify at all knowing that Garland will not prosecute a contempt of Congress charge in this case…
     
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    The fact that you don't know his income streams is NOT justification for suggesting something wrong is going on.

    If you want to make accusations, show some evidence.
     
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    You stated:
    "Asking him how much money he made on the side profiteering from the virus is perfectly legit. Plus, did he have a finger in the creation of the virus?"

    You aren't asking him. You are making public claims of wrong doing.

    And, your idea that you can freely accuse him of total BS like creating a virus that has killed millions around the world when you have ZERO evidence of that is JUST PLAIN NOT ACCEPTABLE.

    You need to reign it in and show evidence for your seriously wild accusations.
     
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    Yeah sure.

    Covid19 just happened to naturally occur in a place in China where the biolab NIH and Fauci were experimenting on it's effects on humans.
     
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    You and the article you cite don't know how the NIH works.

    1) The money they are talking about is grant money awarded to competitive grant proposals that are decided upon in peer reviewed panels.
    2) Fauci does not decide who gets what for all of the 10,000s grants the NIH awards every year.
    3) Some of the research funded by NIH money leads to patents, which can result in royalty payments.
    4) These royalty payments go to the NIH, not to Fauci, in essence recouping some of the tax payer's money that funded the research.
    5) Fauci, as any NIH employee, has to file extensive conflict of interest paperwork every year.

    So, what you think is a Fauci gotcha is standard NIH funding practice, which is actually a benefit to the nation's medical science and health care.
     
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    You missed the part where the pharmaceutical companies are sending money to the NIH and scientists DIRECTLY.

    You might have also missed the redactions, secrecy, and slow walking of information provided via FOIA requests.

    If the process was legitimate, there wouldn't be a need for such secrecy, now would there?

    At the very least, a man receiving payments from the companies whose products he's using his government position to force people to take is a direct conflict of interest.
     

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