Ukrainian military deliberately executed over 10 Russian POWs

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  1. Tofiks

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    Something very familiar.... "We will take Kyiv in 3 days" they said
     
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    Well, Germany took it in few months. And Ukraine doesn't have the land mass of Russia to pull off the same thing.
     
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    It's because you said so? Useless compared with light T60 or german PzI? Matilda and Valentin were British main battle tanks, they beat Rommel with these tanks. But you, as a professor, have your only arguments - empty statements.

    How you massive copypaste deny, that Alies start yo help USSR at the very beginning of the war and do not wait until victory in Stalingrad?
     
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    Germany was a REAL military....Mafiosi was a backward peasant state with muddy roads,coal oil lamps,thatched roof houses....with 80% illiteracy.

    Many in Ukraine welcomed Germans initially....that's why almost 2 million surrendered in Kyiv in Sept 41....along with 30 of Stalins generals....rumor had it...Stalin went apoplectic.
     
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    Even without landmass they beat Russian army back, which in words was "second army in the world" but in practice turned out, that its rotten thought and are not capable to beat much weaker foe.
     
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    Feeling sorry for your fellow natzi sympathizers?
     
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    No...just stating a historical fact.

    There's no ...."nazis"....in Ukraine.
     
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    But they had such a great history together. Plus they hate Russians. Why wouldn't many people retain the same beliefs. If not on anything else but on the basis of their animus against Russia. And how they all just welcomed in the natzis must've been like a win in their book
     
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    2 million surrendered in Kiev in 1941? Where did you pick that number? Half a million whole losses in Kiev (https://www.britannica.com/event/World-War-II/Invasion-of-the-Soviet-Union-1941).
    There was no encircling Red Army in Kiev, had Stalin listened to Zhukov who was in favor to retreat the army from Kiev. This has nothing to do with the fact that some Ukrainians in western part of Ukraine greeted Germans.
     
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    Yes...weeska....1.5 -2 mln Soviet POWs that surrendered in Kyiv and area in Ukraine....first hand info from an old former Soviet POW who I met in Chicago years back....who was in that bunch that marched through Kreschatyk St,which was largest surrender in history......your link is meaningless.

    Not only that ...also I met an old Wehrmacht Major who was at Kharkiv in summer 42....3-400000 POWs....not including dead.

    I'll sooner take their word since they were there....not some agents ...."link"...here.
     
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    I don't think that anyone familiar with the insanity of war believes that either side is blameless when it comes to the capacity for cruelty.

    Thanks for presenting additional information.
     
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    Well....I don't think anything tops a greater "friendship " than Hitler/Koba Stalin....I mean it must've been like Kibbles&Bits....but Koba had his head so far up Hitlers ass ...he couldn't see the warning signs till it was too late and thus June 22 41....but their were plenty of Nazi collaborators...like the Vlasovtsyi....I think their name was Russian Liberation Army....can't recall, their flag was a tri color red/white/blue?.....much like today's RF flag....whaddya know?o_O
     
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    Nah. It was more like 2 paranoid narcissists plotting again eachother as they shook hands, and looking for the fist opportunity the stab eachother in the back.

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    Sure, Brittanica data is not correct. :-D The one that is provided by someone whom you do not know and whom you met hundred years ago is more reliable. He counted the surrenders himself? :grin:
     
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    Speaking of prisoners of war. I wonder how it would go over if China launched a ground invasion on the US. What if they overwhelmed the US in sheer number. Millions at a time. Just to suck us dry. Before they launch the real attack.

    They have like 1.4 billion people. Even if they sent the entire population of US over, they would still have more than 1 billion people.

    If you think about it. It's terrifying
     
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    How would they launch this invasion? With teleport? Just as with your fantasies about Japanese invasion in US, you just can't understand, that to deploy forces thousands of kilometers oversees, you need thousands of amphibious landing and supply ships. And even then it's extremely difficult, impossible without base nearby.
     
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    From Russia
    A bunch of Chinese are already settling in the far east. Send in millions at a time and have them surrender. No training needed.
     
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    People like you are way too impressed by the numbers of Chinese
     
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    You do know that it is relatively easy to WALK into the Russian Far East from China don't you?
     
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    Where from Russia? How many troops do you think they can drop on shore in first wave? Why do you think it's possible to drop on beach a million solders at once? :D
     
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    My point exactly
     
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    Not everything is 100% correct.....actually the Wehrmact guy....came over shortly after the war....not terribly far from my area....weird thing is...we share same last names....no reason to doubt him....same as the Soviet dude....look at some pics of the " great surrender" in Kyiv....weeska. Learn something, not drop stinkers here.:D
     
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    They can overwhelm us with sheer numbers using real troops in Alaska. Once they take Alaska, it won't be that hard to establish an effective system of transport. The distance between Russia and Alaska is only 55 miles. Replace the real troops with millions of untrained conscripted civilians. Have them surrender to dry up resources. Lunch the real attack once the nation's resources are weakened.

    There is 2 million illegals that crossed the border this year. And it's not an intentional invasion. So it's not as unrealistic as you make it seem.
     
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    They can't get to Taiwan at the moment....how're they to get here?
     
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    They're too busy infiltrating Russian Far East right now.....that's far more lucrative for them at the moment.....and they've got plenty of Russian mules for slave labor.

    They won't have that luxury if they try that here.
     

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