Died in Their Sleep Days After Receiving Second COVID-19 Vaccine

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    Wow!
    Plausible deniability!
    Now thats what I call a perfectly designed bioweapon!
     
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    ~ This is only the beginning. Hold on to your life insurance ... ! :neutral:"'
    Any previous vaccine with this rate of side-effects would have been pulled off market. Obviously the Covid-19 experiment is different ...

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    I sent that video to my sister who's had three jabs. Here's her answer.

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    "Either someone has hacked your email account, or I'm afraid you've been taken over by right wing internet trolls!
    Put your computer down and take a walk!"
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    I don't know whether she's in denial, or really believes what she says. Some people are unreachable.
     
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    Have you heard the one about the pot calling the kettle black?
     
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    So there is sense in your family.

    If only she knew this has been going on for 20 years! Send her an email and tell her what you have been up to, tell her you believe everything in the mad world of conspiracy except flat-earth!

    One of THE most unbelievable pieces of irony in human history.
     
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    Indeed, the sister is right. I took a look at the link and it is crazy talk and clickbait. I have removed all the advertising links and promo codes.

    Total conspiracy theory and misinformation. Advertisers on this site make up to 60% more than advertisers on YouTube so you can see how adding some clickbait video is going to hopefully attract the money. There is an article on the link below that describes the utter stupidity of the film.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucel...laims-about-covid-19-vaccine/?sh=59a5138c49d0



    I actual knew somebody who died suddently in their sleep at age 20. No drugs involved. No alcohol involved. No apparent health issues. A tragic loss of a twenty year old male who died in his sleep and they still don't know why. I suppose these conspiracy nutters could come along and say 'Oh, look another one who died suddenly from the Covid19 vaccine'. Sorry, but no, this happened in 2003.
     
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    I'd say it's common knowledge for anybody with an open and curious mind, laymen included, that the shots are dangerous to all and fatal to many. Dr. Ryan Cole was calling them "clot shots" 18 months ago. :lol:
     
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    I' d say its also common knowledge that when people fear things they usually have not taken the time to fully research and understand them and their fear of "danger" is simply an irrational impulse caused by their lack of understanding and feeling that lack of understanding prevents them from controlling that which they do not understand which then generates their fear.

    I would say people have been naming their fears as long as humans have been communicating them and call them many names. In fact the types of phobias we have phrased can go on for pages.

    I would say your comments make no point, just express your fears that you want others to share because in that sharing it makes you feel credible and in control.

    It doesn't. Fear is a wasted emotion of ignorance. It causes the person who wishes to experience it a wasted opportunity to learn how to develop thought processes that inspire people as to what they can do if they deal with that fear positively.

    I would say you know exactly what I mean and choose your path based on fear. You waste the gift of thought and ability to discern information you refuse to consider gripped in your fear.

    Common sense alone would tell you that the vast majority of people who have taken vaccines including the Covid 19 ones have not died and vaccines have helped control the gestation period of infection and therefore its spread during that period.

    I would say you know that but choose to dwell on your fear of dying from vaccines which I would say relate to other issues with authority you have not yet resolved.

    Then again you and I say a lot now don't we...
     
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    She's right. Go for a walk and don't harangue people you see outside. They don't want to hear misinformation, either.
     
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    Yes, fear is a powerful motivator. Fear is exactly what was used to frighten the masses. Fear of a virus with a 99% survival rate. That is about as irrational a fear as one could imagine. A fear manipulated so well that millions of otherwise rational people stood in line for hours to have an experimental drug injected into their bodies.

    Obviously informed consent was NOT a part of the process, by deliberation of those bringing the shots. Pharma done good, real good!

    Tucker had a smart young woman on the show last night, a teacher of some sort. She took the shots voluntarily, and admitted that she was not informed about the chances of the harms that came her way.

    Masses ignorant of informed consent principles are a sign of the times, too many humans on the planet. Not insisting upon following the law regarding informed consent is a clear demonstration of how rotten our leadership is.
     
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    "Fear". Yes, because a pandemic killing over 6 million people over the world is something to fear.

    And to take precautions against.
     
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    In regards to your first comment here is a direct rebuttal of your false claim:

    https://www.politifact.com/factchec...hecking-tomi-lahren-vaccines-and-covid-19-su/

    You have been called out on this false information before but you repeat it.

    You also know it ignores the actual rate of survival between people who caught the virus and did not take the vaccine and those that did:

    https://ourworldindata.org/covid-deaths-by-vaccination

    https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/71/wr/mm7104e2.htm

    https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7043e2.htm

    https://data.ontario.ca/dataset/deaths-involving-covid-19-by-vaccination-status

    https://www.bmj.com/content/374/bmj.n2282

    You then made the sweeping allegation that suggests anyone who has taken the vaccine has been lied to so could not provide informed consent. You time and time again when asked to prove your conspiracy of lies created by what you label "pharma". You have provided zero proof of any conspiracy in your repeated posts and threads but like the first misrepresentation you repeat it using a technique we are all aware of-repeat a claim without proof long enough-it must be true. No. It was unsubstantiated the first time you said it and remains so.

    It is also absurd for you to contend such a conspiracy if for no other reason you have millions upon millions of people who do not know one another with different languages from different countries all working together in harmony to permeate this conspiracy. In a world of conflict, your world is one of brilliant subterfuge by mass multi-lingual, multi-culture, multi-government, multi business cooperation.

    Next you know offer an example of a teacher who you pronounce as "smart" and yet she claims to be so stupid she took a vaccine without properly researching it to her satisfaction and you are oblivious to that contradiction and what it means. How was she not informed? Finish it then. Was the not informed because something was hidden from her or because she herself did not research the pros and cons to her satisfaction. If she was smart, how was she tricked. Who lied to her. When did they lie, what did they say, and how did you determine she would not have taken the shot if it had not been for that information withheld or misrepresented to her. Where is your evidence? Wait don't tell me its part of the conspiracy you do not prove either or she was brainwashed or her fear made her take the vaccine, Please prove this. Lol of course you won't.

    You argue in effect because I do not agree with you and am not afraid of taking the vaccine, its my fear of Covid 19 that makes me take the vaccine. You suggest that for everyone who takes the vaccine.

    That is called you projecting your fear onto me to rationalize you having your fear of the virus and me not sharing that fear with you.

    I do not take the vaccine out of fear. I take it so that I cut down on the likelihood of me spreading it to a vulnerable person or causing me to have to use medical services someone otherwise more needy than me needs. I take it because I am not afraid but hopeful and positively have faith in my fellow humans to not only help each other work together to overcome hardships like disease but because I respect the dedication of doctors, researchers, pharmacists, first responders, retail workers, teachers, on and on the people exposed to the virus in their work and whose work is to help others learn how to reduce the risk.

    It is ironic you use the example of a teacher when you know most teachers put their lives on the line in schools during epidemics for their children and pose one as smart when she claims she did not properly ask questions. Right.

    Hey go back to Tucker Carlson. That says it all.
     
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    Death

    We were all, injected and not injected, lied to.

    Some of us have figured that out, and some will never figure it out. :angel:
     
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    I'm too real for you Death.

    This isn't about me, though I do admit to having bought into Fauci's fear mongering for about 2 months. LOL I lost my innocence way before the Scamdemic.

    Saving lives has nothing to do with this. If the shots saved lives things would be different, but they don't. They maim and kill. If you aren't able to face that bitter truth, that's a personal problem.
     
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    Your answers made it about you E but that is ok by me. I respect that. This is after all an issue that comes down to the choices we make as individuals.

    That said and lol how are you "too real" E? How is it "real" to think people are out to maim you with needles? Of course engaging in preventative medical management to control the spread of communicable diseases says lives. It saved to the lives of my niece and daughter and countless others the last 3 years and more importantly it could not save the lives of many because they chose to fear taking a vaccine,

    Yes you made it a personal issue by accusing thousands upon thousands of people you do not know as being liars trying to maim and kill you because they are on the front lines trying to manage a communicable virus to save lives and they have.

    Hey it is one thing to refuse the needle E. That is your 100% absolute right I defend. Its another when you accuse people you do not know of evil intent because they give people options not to spread diseases to the vulnerable and also not get fatally ill themselves.

    Read back your words-"They maim and kill". They? Who is they? You created "They". Its a boogy man you created and slap on genuine people saving lives and exposing their own lives to do it.

    You want to get real? Let's get real. I spent years in the real world and have seen people put in restraints. They were persecuted with false labels simply for being a certain ethnicity or group identity or they suffered from various mental illnesses or they committed crimes.

    Some of them like you developed a genuine trauma, fear, hatred of authority and continue to distrust authority.

    E my reality are abusers, pedophiles and pimps that walk free and I could not do a damn thing to stop them but my reality is about police, paramedics, firefighters, soldiers, prison guards, social workers, emergency room nurses and doctors, physicians, teachers. Its about neglected children, abused elderly, disabled people left in their own piss to die slow and people maimed by a terrorist or criminal or untreated violent psychotic. It is about violent people who choose to harm themselves and others and have to be contained.

    It was never about me although I suspect I chose the profession I did to make it about me being able to fight what you fear and in that sense we are no different.
    We see the same thing I choose though to fight it and not only see the evil but the good trying to contain the evil.

    Believe me E, if you want to believe certain things I respect your right but what I challenge is you failing to acknowledge the rights of others who could get sick and/or die because of the choices you make.

    I also will not give up in joining with the good people. When you see evil, its tempting to see only that but in my world, in the piss and stink have been some damn good people helping me scrub the toilets as well.

    In your world all I am is someone who cleans your toilet. Nothing else. You may not want me to but if I do not **** overflows and gets others sick. Hey you are welcome to join my world of cleaning toilets. We use toothbrushes you know.

    Lol relax. Stay in bed. The nurse will be in soon with your oxycontin.
     
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    Readers should note that the sources used in the PolitiFact fact check, quoted above, are dated from Dec 20 to July 21. (see the below quote) The data within the sources (except those from Dec 20) were from months earlier when vaccination rates in the United States were less than 10% and adverse event data was scant and unanalyzed.

    The remaining sources quoted in the above post also suffer the same dated material flaw and one much more serious. The PolitiFact article from Jul 2021 used what then was the currently available source material, the post above appears to intentionally be using twenty-three to eighteen-month-old sources and data.

    Interestingly, if one goes to the beginning of this forum's discussion of Covid -19, two years ago, the tone and assertions within the above post look and feel the same. This is why I stopped participating some twenty months ago, if I wanted to discuss religion I'd go to Church.

    Cheers
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    From the linked article:

    This Oct 27, 2022 article is using sources and data from the initial Covid vaccine rollout, ninety days from the initial vaccinations.

    Cheers,
    Labour
     
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    Research takes time. What point are you trying to make? They did the study in relationship to a concern. They had a huge sample and got statistically relevant results and since the vaccines haven’t changed significantly the results would still apply. The results would remain applicable unless cases were dramatically rising, but they haven’t.

    Imagine that 46 million people were used in a research study to determine in aspirin causes side-effect X. It was determined that side-effect X occurred in one out of two million which was statistically likely to occur on a population who didn’t take aspirin. The study was done 2 years prior and no further increases of symptom X, as monitored by various organizations around the world, were observed to warrant further studies. Would the results be null and void just because the research was completed using data from 2 to 3 years prior?

    So have you any data other than reports from Antivax nutters that would suggest that the incidence of blood clots has risen dramatically related to vaccines to warrant further research at this time?

    https://healthcare.utah.edu/healthfeed/postings/2021/07/blood-clotting-covid19.php
    https://www.bristol.ac.uk/news/2022/february/covid-bloodclot.html

    Do you know how many people died per day from blood clots prior to the pandemic? Do you know the many risk factors for developing blood clots. Have you read some the lies Antivaxers are publishing (
    https://healthfeedback.org/claimrev...claims-conspiracy-theories-covid-19-vaccines/)? Do you know if Covid 19 itself causes increased risk of blood clots? You need to look at the big picture.

    Do you know that in the world of science, work published in the past 2-3 years is a good benchmark since these sources are more current and reflect the newest discoveries, theories, processes, or best practices. The data and research is from 2021, what specifically is your problem with that?
     
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    It's concerning when people use fact-checking mobs such as PolitiFact

    "Politifact is known for debunking anything that goes against the mainstream narrative before it can breach the public consciousness. But what isn’t widely-advertised is the fact checking giant’s ties to very deep pockets. For example, it’s received donations from the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation and, perhaps coincidentally, has repeatedly debunked “false conspiracy theories” and “misinformation” about the Foundation’s investment in COVID-19 vaccines."

    Who’s Checking the Fact Checkers?


    The best way to prove your point is to find the evidence that backs your claim yourself and should not be backed by lame ar$ed fact-checking sites.
     
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    ~ We must do that ourselves – which makes these sites mostly useless. Unfortunately with tainted "news" and biased "fact" sites we have to be our own information detectives.
     
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    " They" would likely be referring to the mRNA vaccine — as that is the topic being discussed .
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    Time for a holiday
     
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    It's even more concerning that those with no training in the subject at hand seem to think they are qualified to do any kind of "fact checking" on the subject.
     

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