Kanye West suspended from Twitter after posting swastika inside the Star of David

Ye, the rapper formerly known as Kanye West, has been suspended from Twitter after sharing a design blending a swastika with the Star of David, just hours after he praised Adolf Hitler and the Nazis in an interview.
Ye was one of several high-profile Twitter users whose accounts were banned or restricted on the platform who then had their accounts reinstated after tech billionaire Elon Musk took over as owner. Ye returned to the platform on 21 November, having previously been restricted for tweeting an antisemitic message.
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2...ter-posting-swastika-inside-the-star-of-david
"Free speech absolutist" Elon Musk has suspended West's Account.
So, apparently, there IS a "Line"...
At least Musk is showing a scintilla of a brain cell by not letting Twitter getting over-run with Hate Speech...

 

The news media is now saying that Ye suffers from mental illness.

 

Wait, so Twitter’s rules aren’t just a big left wing conspiracy against conservatives?

How is that possible? That’s what we’ve been told for years. How could a conservative narrative be false???

 

Just because Kayne 'ran' for POTUS as a self-declared Republican, didn't mean that other Republicans accepted him. In the same way some far-left wackoo might say we need to die for overpopulation would(hopefully) not be taken seriously by the left.

 

I have yet to find a free speech advocate that does not think some speech should not be allowed. I wonder if they see the irony.

 

To be more precise, he doesn't allow hate speech against the Jew.
Leaves open that we do not know if he condones hate speech against other races, religion, LGBTQ+ society... you know. The works.

 

No doubt "Ye" is free to go say such things in public.
It's something else to demand a company must aid him with that.
Twitter is still a privately owned company, and not a publicly owned company or not owned at all.

 

A recently deleted tweet from the House Judiciary puts a dent in your argument. I am sure many on the right can’t stand Kanye but sadly many others have raised him up as a champion of free speech. I hope Republicans come to appreciate the inherent risks associated with courting the crazies and perhaps such associations are best avoided. I say this as an independent with no loyalties to any political party nor political ideology.

 

So, let's define 'courting the crazies' because this is actually something that's becoming an issue and a form of hypocrisy within the political system itself. Politicians, but primarily left-leaning ones say they want to expand the vote and that everyone's vote should count right? Obviously, these crazies are a part of everyone. But what would inevitably happen in today's society is that "OMG, Kayne West voted for AmericanNationalist! AN, do you denounce West's vote for you!"

And it's like what? A vote's a vote, I don't care who it's from. Just because someone votes for you, or someone donates to your campaign(this for now, is the actual example since votes thankfully are not identified in public.) doesn't mean that they agree with their views. But more broadly, if these crazies were exiled from the political and social-sphere of the country, not only would they not have all voters but that some voters would be viewed as different/better than others. And that's what primarily throughout human history what led to discrimination. A feeling of superiority or inferiority.

It's okay to simply not agree. Not agreeing is enough. There's no need nor benefit that's gained from pushing someone even further and further into the shadows of society.

 

I don’t see the idea of increasing accessibility to voting the same as courting the crazies. Allowing the crazies to vote is part of democracy. The House Judiciary tweeting support for them is courting them same with politicians welcoming them to private meetings. Both sides do this crap and I oppose it all the same.

I do see benefit in pushing them into the shadows as ostracism signals to others that some things are so egregious that they cannot be tolerated. All societies and subcultures practice shunning and ostracism, even white nationalists.

As for defining crazies? Impossible as we are all crazy in the eyes of some. What is crazy to me may be sane to you and vice versa.

 

I think for the right wingers up until recently they're just kissing his ass cuz he's black.

 

There's that aspect of it that's true, but there's also the aspect that you could push them so far deep, that they may never integrate themselves with society. You might find this a good thing, but if one believes in a governing society, we're effectively talking a substantial minority of people unrecognized by the State, nor do those minorities recognize the State itself. This can obviously lead to disaster.

Hence as Noam Chomsky said: I'd rather confront the ideas that I think are wrong and debate them. That is a far better way of dealing with ideas we don't agree with.

 

Lol Dems just can’t up their minds about musk. One day they hate him irrationally, the next they don’t.

 

Not anymore they aren’t. The new leadership has clearly changed the culture and interpretation of the rules. But yes, prior to the musk take over twitter, by admission of their ceo and high level execs was a leftist favored website in their rules.

 

You cant ostracize people without eventual disaster, very violent disaster. If their ideas are truly terrible and irrational then allow them to push them openly so you can openly defeat them in the field of ideas. If you can’t do that, then the people you seek to ostracize will gain credibility, not lose it. And they will seek retribution and they always get it one way or another.

Better to let them have those voice, and beat them simultaneously.

 

For the most part I agree with you. With that said some have no interest in reintegration and just want to gaslight. Those that do want to reintegrate only need abandon their offensive beliefs to return to the fold. I agree we need to have an open line of communication with those that we disagree with, but that only works with those willing to change. Those hopelessly locked into hateful theologies and ideologies only hurt America when we give them a platform to spread their poison.

 

The willingness to change doesn’t just go one way. And who is it you think should determine one’s willingness to change, or lack there of, and the punishment for refusing to do so?

I don’t think you understand what you are pushing for here.

 

I think whatever danger comes from suppressing poisonous ideologies such as antisemitism is minimal to the danger that comes from giving it a high profile platform and consequence free environment. There is risk either way.

 

Not if you adequately refute it.

 

Expecting me to be willing to embrace antisemitism or some other poisonous ideology is to not understand how important my morals and ethics are to me. I will not change them for anyone. I assume a hardened antisemite would say the same of themselves. Some differences are irreconcilable no matter how willing the two sides are to talk. The way societies and subcultures works is fall in line or be canceled. It’s just sociology 101 and is as old as human nature is. Conservatives errantly assume that cancel culture is a leftist thing when in reality it is a human thing. We all cancel and we have all been canceled.

 

Cancel culture as a term came up when the left went to far with it. To some degree it’s always existed but now to a tyrannical degree, though culture around that is changing in favor of the right. Which is good.

However you don’t have to reconcile your differences, but to challenge them to a point there is no need to ostracize anyone as thier ideologies cannot spread due to the constant open challenge in the field of ideas.

 

Why is Musk censoring conservative speech

Closet liberal?

 

I don't know that I believe this article. Ye hasn't been on Twitter so I don't know why anyone is saying he is banned again. I searched his name a few times on Twitter as Ye and Kanye after his meeting with Tim Pool to see what was going on in that noggin of his and nothing came up.

 

If this exact thing had happened two months ago, Elon would be accusing Twitter of censorship.

 

Okay he was only back for a short time before being suspended and the suspension is only for 12 hours. Also it's not a swastika symbol that he posted. Its not a swastika.

The symbol is for this. Must be some kind of trolling.
https://www.ststworld.com/raelism-ufo-religion/

Also it was because of "hate speech" according to Musk. It was because of violent speech. Although I don't understand how a swastika is a call to violence.