Died in Their Sleep Days After Receiving Second COVID-19 Vaccine

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  1. UntilNextTime

    UntilNextTime Well-Known Member

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    Your picture is difficult to read. For this, it was a waste of time for both of us.
     
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    What were there ages and comorbidities, were they taken into account? Probably not.
     
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    @Bowerbird
    more anecdotal evidence

    Myocarditis after Covid-19 Vaccination in a Large Health Care Organization
    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34614329/

    "Conclusions: Among patients in a large Israeli health care system who had received at least one dose of the BNT162b2 mRNA vaccine, the estimated incidence of myocarditis was 2.13 cases per 100,000 persons; the highest incidence was among male patients between the ages of 16 and 29 years. Most cases of myocarditis were mild or moderate in severity. (Funded by the Ivan and Francesca Berkowitz Family Living Laboratory Collaboration at Harvard Medical School and Clalit Research Institute.)."
     
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    If there are so many cases of adverse effects, how can the mRNA jabs manufacturers claim it to be "safe and effective"?
     
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    Now them’s fighting words. You see this is what you have to prove with something other than anecdotal evidence

    Meanwhile
    https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.07.23.21260998v2
    https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0002914922008542


    https://journals.lww.com/co-cardiol...ocarditis_and_long_term_heart_failure.17.aspx
     
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    This is my point - out of the millions of “jabs” given what proportion have had myocarditis and of those what proportion had a serious adverse outcome
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    You need actual data - numbers, proportions etc
     
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    No THAT is research. What now needs to be applied is cost/benefit analysis. When the rate of vaccine induced thrombosis arose the vaccination strategy in Australia changed with the Astra Zeneca vaccine being reserved for older people who were having far fewer incidents while we swapped to Pfizer
     
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    Believe it or not, but death was already around before the jabs, so to argue that people who died after taking the jab died because of it is pretty much the opposite of critical thinking.
     
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    The anti-covid people want to live on both sides of the fence.

    On one hand, people who died while infected with COVID are all said to have died from other causes, even seemingly healthy people. Pre-existing conditions! They were gonna die anyway! The death rates are inflated! We've all heard that song and dance.

    And then on the other hand, somebody gets a vaccine and then dies(at any point afterwards) and it's "BAM! The vaccines did it".
     
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    He plainly has NOT. But that won't stop his ongoing misrepresentations and embarrassment.
     
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    Another embarrassing claim shot down again! *LOL*

    https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamacardiology/fullarticle/2781601

    "Question Should myocarditis be considered a potential adverse event following immunization with messenger RNA (mRNA) COVID-19 vaccines?

    Findings In this case series of 23 male patients, including 22 previously healthy military members, myocarditis was identified within 4 days of receipt of a COVID-19 vaccine. For most patients (n = 20), the diagnosis was made after the second dose of mRNA COVID-19 vaccine; these episodes occurred against the backdrop of 2.8 million doses of mRNA COVID-19 vaccines administered.

    Meaning Vigilance for rare adverse events, including myocarditis, after COVID-19 vaccination is warranted but should not diminish overall confidence in vaccination during the current pandemic.
     
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    Uh---more embarrassment. This is the 3rd "study". Nobody is "dying in their sleep". In fact, they were mildly affected, and in quite small numbers.

    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34374740/

    Conclusions and relevance: In this small case series study, myocarditis was diagnosed in children after COVID-19 vaccination, most commonly in boys after the second dose. In this case series, in short-term follow-up, patients were mildly affected. The long-term risks associated with postvaccination myocarditis remain unknown. Larger studies with longer follow-up are needed to inform recommendations for COVID-19 vaccination in this population.
     
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    It doesn't look like any of these "studies" state what you claim they state.

    Maybe you should do a better job of vetting your citations before bombastically claiming that they "prove" that Covid vaxxes are super icky. @UntilNextTime
     
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    Wow, one person out of millions was hospitalized for 3 days! Obviously, she "died in her sleep" and stuff!

    You have a hard time with words, don't you?
     
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    "Hundreds" more of single incidents isn't "data" or a "study", my uninformed chum.

    I've wasted my time going through the first 5 links. They focus on small groups of people, who recover mostly within a day.

    That's not remotely close to "dying in their sleep". That's hysterical and not reflected in what I've seen thus far. Pick out a "study" that you feel reflects your hysterical conclusions. Danke.
     
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    Not every single adverse event/death has been reported. So of course the cohort of subjects/events is going to be much smaller.
     
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    Yes, it was. That was why there were so many counted as death by covid. The use of their existing comorbidities was used to bolster their numbers.

    Has it occurred to you that people are still dying, when there are no 'outbreaks', why is that? What is the cause, the covid shots perhaps?
     
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    As I've stated before, one of many cases. Don't forget, thousands of cases don't get reported and or do not get recorded.
    It is you that is lost for words, as your use of 'LOL' is like saying 'um'.
     
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    *LOL*

    You're not exactly covering yourself in glory. You didn't even read your underwhelming links.
     
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    *LOL* is like ridiculing your posts because even your links prove you wrong.
     
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    Of course. People were dying of natural (and unnatural) causes before Covid, during Covid and after it, but mortality rate spiked 20% during Covid. So there is that.
     
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    It still occurred (mild to moderate), 'safe and effective, hey? If they were safe and effective, nothing should have happened, right?
     
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    Why don't you counter my argument that proves the covid vaccines are safe and effective? Or answer this question. Why did the FDA want to suppress 800,000 pages of Pfizer documentation of their studies for 75 years, before a court ordered them to be released, something to hide? Can you answer this, probably not, *LOL*
     
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    I already have. Your own links prove you wrong. *LOL*
     
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    And what am I stating/claiming?
     

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