Gavin Newsom's reparations committee will recommend handing out $223,200 per person to all descendan

So what y'all just collectively give him money stop it.

I don't give anybody money just because they have a mansion.

That doesn't sound like slavery it sounds like masochism.

 

Sounds interesting – there is no doubt that Blacks in America were screwed, first slavery then discrimination, not as bad as Native Americans, but still they deserve some compensation.
Because slavery happened more than 100 years ago, the question is who will get the dough.

If a person ancestors were a Black slave owners – is he/she deserves compensation?
If a person ancestors were slaves and White soldiers who fought against Confederacy – how much money he/she deserves?
If a person ancestors were slaves who fought with Confederacy – how much money he/she deserves?
If a person ancestors were from African Ashanti/Asante tribes who sold slaves to White people - is he/she deserves compensation?

But I trust American lawyers, they will find not only correct answers to these questions, but also the correct percent of the compensation fee they deserve.

 

never happen

Would someone that is white, but has slave DNA ancestry get the check?

Would someone that is black, but has slave owner DNA not get the check?

should everyone move to CA today? do we have to live there to qualify?

 

I believe he still has all the parts he came into the world with

 

My grandparents on both sides experienced severe discrimination in NYC for being Irish and Italian - it was tolerated by the government. What do they get? O mean, we are talking about correcting injustices, right?

 

When the recipients of the reparations blow through all the $, what will we be expected to give them then?

Oh, you know it won't end there, they will want more. It will never end.

 

As a descendant of an indentured servant and a family that never owned slaves....

sorry bro, I'm fresh out

 

Let us not forget the “original sin” was tribes capturing their brothers, albeit from different tribes, and selling them to slave traders in the first place.

 

You know what they should have done, move town and keep their mouths shut and it would have been peaches and cream. Simple.

 

You will become a slave to them. How you like that?

 

That the simplistic wiki version. The real version goes more like this.they weren't brothers. The captives were black Europeans. Spaniards put bounties on the heads of these black Europeans who were African merchants and were not paying taxes to the colony. Certain African princes claimed these bounties, handed the goods over to Portuguese slavers on the coast and were shipped to America's.

 

So far so good, but I don’t get the European part.
And are you saying the Spanish were in Africa offering bounties, but the capturing tribe got paid the bounty and kept the prisoners and then sold them to the Portuguese who sold them as slaves?
Either way the “original sin” was with the country who sold them.

 

Revisionist crap

The Africans awere enslaving other africans it had nothing to do with Europe

 

Esau,
Thank you for teaching us the true history of slavery. Political Forum members, please do not believe to Harvard University graduate (probably black European) who wrote such lies:



Also don’t believe that Black African woman Efunroye Tinubu was a big slave trader who sold slaves to Brazilian and European merchants in violation of a 1852 treaty with Great Britain outlawing the slave trade, because how can you explain that today she has a monument in Abeokuta, Nigeria?
If you want to know anything about slavery, ask Political Forum genius – Mr. Esau.

BTW: our house camera recorded black Europeans stealing Amazon delivery packages.

You cannot convince idiots, so instead of arguing - agree with them, making their ideas even more stupid.

 

The ppl taken as captives to the coast were exiles living in west africa, from Portugal, black Portuguese.

The portuguese king, Afonso (im assuming for now, at the behest of the spaniards), had placed a bounty on their heads because they were disrupting the trade routes (theft, not payment of taxes etc) of the Portuguese crown/Guinea princes.

The contract was: the guinea princes could keep half of the possessions [of the merchants], the other half to Afonso. the captured were the property of the guinea princes who would oblige the slavers [dutch, english and portuguese] on the gold coast, whom purchased the aforementioned captives and took them to the americas. so yes, you appear to have understood that. ive never stated that the guinea princes were innocent, this is where the origin of "blacks selling their own" comes from but thats rather simplistic. they didnt sell their own, they sold the black portuguese that had been coming/sent to west africa, peaking in the 15th century, basically through exile from iberia [spanish inquisition].

the original sin argument is a fair one, ican see how that may look. you could also look at it through the eyes of prophecy: For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

its believed that one of the few methods of obtaining guns through trade for the guinea princess, was the sale of human cargo. the only way the africans could finally defeat the european colonies was through the acquisition of guns and more importantly gunpowder! this was the decision taken and we now see how africa didnt become like america. a wholly colonised continent.

the gun-slave hypothesis is a major reason given for the expansion of the slave trade but was also the end of it.

 

Lol, don’t get him started on black hebrews, a known and hilarious myth that was made up by 2 guys.

 

Why not? I love his stories which contradict the Bible, the archeological and linguistical research. It shows – everyone can think he is a next Einstein who will overturn existing knowledge.

 

And the African slavery has obscured the fact that many black Africans participated in ans profitted from slavery what's your point?
Irish came her DA indentured servents, slaves to their masters and even those who came as freemen faced huge barriers of discrimination and bigotry so I have Irish blood how much do I get?

 

What money is Newsome sending? How about we take the HeadStart money, which is a total waste, and use that?

 

I take checks and credit cards too!

 

If a White person feels racist toward an African-American person, reparations are not going to change their feelings one way or the other. When some African-Americans were living in shacks and almost starving, there were certain Whites who still hated them.

 

Oh I bet you do but you damn sure ain't gonna get any from me.

There's plenty of blacks that get welfare (that they are scamming the government to get) that is funded by people that didn't own slaves. That's reparations enough.

Blacks were better off 60 years ago before the Democrats put them on the welfare plantation to buy their votes.

 

I hope gruesom like law suites

 

If you will forgive the pun, you are casting the dynamics, as far too black & white. The idea that every white person's attitude would fall into one, of only two, characterizations-- either they plain "hate" blacks, or they would be happy to give them their money-- is just unrepresentational of reality. Most white Americans, would not be accurately described by either of those ways, you seem to define the situation.


EDIT: Just because you may have sympathy for a person, or a cause, is not going to make you automatically reach into your pocket, and give them your money (I wouldn't imagine). You might want to have some idea, that your contribution was actually going to go toward rectifying the situation, or at least, is being efficiently used for long term improvement, rather than being squandered. Even if cash reparations were issued, that would not end racism. For many whites, who currently are open to appeals for addressing inequities between the races, however, if they had to finance a cash payout, directly to black individuals, that would be the last they would want to hear about it. The conversation, in their minds, would at that point, be closed.

 

Greasy Gavin is trying to buy the Democrat Primary Vote in Key States.

A few problems, his open borders sanctuary policies and illegitimate controls over freedom and Liberty, and the destruction of the privileges of citizenship are not likely to be well received by the hispanic vote.

VOX POPULI, VOX DEI: Two-thirds want border wall and E-Verify to slow illegal immigration.

'Sizable majorities of 2022 midterm election voters are growing more concerned about illegal immigration across the U.S.-Mexico border and believe the fix should include walls, fences, and other barriers and an E-Verify system that would punish employers who hire illegal immigrants.'

'In a survey 67% backed a wall and other barriers, including 49% of Democrats.'

'Overall, 60% said that the border crisis is a top issue, and most faulted President Joe Biden for the growing disaster.' Greasy Gavin is no better.