Define woke in a way that does not apply to you or your favored political group.

Thanks for demonstrating your lack of historical knowledge. CRT is absurdist nonsense. It is the follow on to the failure that was Marxist critical theory.

 

That is maga.

 

Why don't you show us your knowledge.
Give a non far RW definition of CRT.
Heck. See if you can trace it back to it's origin.

 

What is Marxist critical theory?

 

No.
The woke mindset REVEALS racism.
There is still a huge vague cloud over what woke means. And this started when BLM started to be heard , and represented by sports teams who knelt in sympathy. Those who didn't understand the gesture booed them, thus reinforcing the racist attitude.
The term "woke" came from that , and referred to those who understood the kneeling as a gesture against racism, ans widened into referring to those who empathised with oppression in general. They were AWAKE to social inequality.

CRT is a properly recognised long term research project aimed at finding out where bigotry starts. It has not yet come to any conclusions.

I still don't know what Marxist critical theory is yet. I have never heard of it. I have heard of Marxist LITERARY Criticism but it has nothing to do with race. It is about class, as most Marxist ideology does.

 

Whatever one makes it up to be. The heck with reality.

 

Actually, I think they do. That's why major universities deman DEI statements to be used in hiring and promotion decisions.

Sure, that is the essence of Conservatism.

Classical music is a White thing. Wokesters want to destroy White things.

 

So white only?
If non whites enjoy classical music, it's destroyed?

 

Wokesters attack classical music as too white and male

 

"WOKE" is when all foundation based on commonsense falls away, and you suddenly buy into the belief that your country is so evil it shouldn't exist, cis men are dangerously flawed predators, straight whites are inherently racist and oppressive and women don't lie or sin and that transwomen are better women.

 

So it's destroyed if non whites enjoy it. Why?

 

If a thought system illegitimately violates the rights of others, I'm against it.

 

I know it as Progressivism.

Progressives are basically white middle class and elite poseurs who generally voted Right, up until about 15 or 20 years ago. They're interested in being seen as hip and compassionate, so go wherever they need to go to access that sheen. They were the wine snobs with investment portfolios and a keen interest in capitalism, up until quite recently. They did not like the proletariat - viewing them as crude, crass, and wasted money. I believe that's still true of Progressives today, despite their ostensible Leftism.

So no, it's not about politics.

 

Only for the moment. They came from the Right, and may well end up back there once they find out their stupid ideology is going to lower their standard of living and reduce their freedoms. They're pretty slow though, so it might take them a long time to figure that out. They'll be nominally Left until then.

 

In other words being law abiding, responsible, and civic-minded.

 

You identified a small subset of liberals (university administratons).

Most liberals aren't interested in 'destroying white things.'

 

If discrimination and inequality are the essence of conservatism, then conservatism is contrary to the US Constitution.
And
From your reply it is clear that those called woke want to destroy the racism you describe and fulfill the promise of the constitution.
No wonder conservatives make up all sorts of stories about CRT to frighten and impress those who don't really understand what it is.

This is of course the modern way of politics. Most voters don't bother with such stuff and if politicians can exaggerate lie and misinform to their benefit first, before another interpretation is offered, chances are you will get their vote .
So the one who lies first and loudest gets the most votes.
This is how Brexit was won.
Just tell your average voter that CRT is designed to bring down society as we know it and you can fix it and you have a vote in your pocket.

I cannot tell you how fed up I am with the calculated misinformation, bleeding into conspiracy theory, in order to win elections.
CRT is one issue . It has come to the point where a teacher explains the personal equality guaranteed in the Constitution and is then accused of undermining cultural history, as exemplified in P's reply.
The idea that conservatism means inbuilt inequality based on race is, I hope, a lie.

 

You have it backwards and have just contradicted yourself.
You just said conservatives think classical music is a white thing.
Conservatives reject woke . Who think that classical music should be openly accessible to everyone.
Woke people think white generated culture should be equally shared especially if non white people are born and brought up in a white dominated culture.
Do you not think Chinese people should play classical violin and piano? If that is acceptable, why not black people?
So according to you, conservatives think only white people should take part in classical music.
NOT WOKE PEOPLE whom you see as your alter ego.

You really need to go away and decide
what you do think.

BTW you haven't answered my question...what is Marxist cultural theory?

 

Rubbish.
Woke is about questioning accepted assumptions.
100 years ago suffragettes would be accused of being woke.
Defense of or worse, being a gay man or woman would be asking for social exclusion.

There is nothing wrong with putting suggestions into the public domain and finding out if they meet with general acceptance.
Nor is there any reason why every suggestion is acceptable or not.
In the end what is acceptable is up to the general public. Our acceptance of gay people is seen as sinful by some of the richest countries in the world. A culture is only what people accept or reject. And suggestions don't bring down entire societies.
Just let people live the way THEY want to, not the way YOU want them to.

 

P. just said conservatism assumes black people cannot share classical music.
I'd call that a violation of the rights if others.
Wouldn't you?
Woke people stand directly contrary to what P. said. So I have to assume you would support the woke position on the right to share cultures equally and openly.

 

Were you ever given a response?
Or did poster just leave?

 

I just did were you not paying attention. And why would I bother with a far left version of anything since the far left changes the definition of everything to suit their needs if the moment.

 

No you didn't. You gave far right nonsense.

...
critical race theory (CRT), intellectual and social movement and loosely organized framework of legal analysis based on the premise that race is not a natural, biologically grounded feature of physically distinct subgroups of human beings but a socially constructed (culturally invented)
https://www.britannica.com/topic/critical-race-theory

 

We agree to disagree. I personally have witnessed racism many times before the term 'woke' even appeared. You portray the wokesters as saviors of some sort. Pure poppycock.

 

The vaguely intellectual under pinnings if the old workers of the world unite you have nothing to lose but your chains.