Lila Rose Shares Why Abortion Supporters Want a Culture of Consequence-Free Sex

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  1. Bowerbird

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    Your link only talked about adults not children
    a Catholic Bishop…….

    yeah! Well we know what their preferences are
     
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    Then why were there so many abortions then?

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    "Virtue signalling"... LOLOL. I just love that psychobabble stuff... LOL.
    No one is "deciding which life takes precedence". Abortion or NOT having abortion rarely kills the mom. But abortion kills the unborn child EVERY TIME. There's no CHOICE involved.

    Yes, condoms break. But very rarely. Cars crash too, but we still all use them. Nothing is 100% in life. If you want perfection, blow your brains out, you won't find perfection in THIS life. But ALMOST perfect does just fine in most cases. Condoms, IUD's, THE PILL, and diaphragms did just fine for millions of us wending our way through the sexual revolution of the 1960's and 1970's.
    Millions of people don't care about the life of the unborn child. Millions of people do. The VOTERS in each state will decide.
     
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    You seem to think that simple church social clubs are evil influences, so I was just asking.
     
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    You will lose in every state where this is put to a vote because people see the alternative of forcing women to be an unwilling incubator to the state is borderline fascism.
     
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    EXACTLY .....

    That is why some Anti-Choicers make an exception for rape.....it's only women who enjoyed sex who should be punished according to them...

    There are NO "abortion supporters" ...there are those who believe women should have the same rights as everyone else and those who don't.
     
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    The only thing to blame for the death of Roe v Wade is that the right to kill unborn was legally predicated as a privacy issue.
     
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    Does it apply to men when it comes to the issue of a pregnancy (or several other issues). It's not her fetus. It belongs to two people.

    Does it apply to a 2 year old?

    Did it apply to people that didn't want a "vaccine"?
     
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    You people... always argue the exception rather than the rule..
     
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    It is not. Are you suggesting that the rape is the child and the child is evil here?
     
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    Rapes are not as rare as you make them out to be, studies have put rapes are only reported between 16% and 40%.

    Not to mention the number of pregnancies that are accidental (birth control failure), are unable to consent (all pregnancies under the age of 16-18 depending on the state) or are having a child with a major medical issue.

    You people… always want to ignore anything besides the mother is a whore and deserves what happens to her.
     
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    The 4th Amendment guarantees privacy and autonomy. That should apply to women, not just men. The federal government most definitely has jurisdiction over denial of civil rights. My neighbors in my state should certainly not have jurisdiction. You really think voters should decide the fate of a woman?

    Pregnancy, like many medical conditions, can be dangerous. It's a factor in deciding whether or not to have babies. Not all of us are built for it, and giving birth could cause harm or even death. Sometimes there is something wrong with the fetus, and some fetal abnormalities don't show up until the third trimester. Many women are waiting until their late 30s to have children, which increases the risk of complications. Would you be okay with your neighbors deciding whether you live or die?

    Christians in this country are the ones who have been driving towards the demise of Roe v Wade for decades. Don't tell me religion has nothing to do with it. They have had everything to do with it. They are the ones claiming that every fetus has a soul from the moment of conception. That's fantasy, not fact.

    None of that should ever matter if the 4th Amendment applies to all of us. It should never be any government's business if I'm pregnant. I should have the same right to privacy and autonomy as you do. As for the Christian right in America or elsewhere, they should all just butt out. If they are so convinced that abortion is murder, why don't they trust their dear fluffy God to take that into account at our ending?

    A woman's medical condition is none of your business or mine or anyone's unless she chooses to let you in on it.

    I'm done debating this with you. Come back with your opinion when you can get pregnant, because until then, you are one of many who simply don't understand how a pregnancy affects a woman's entire life.
     
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    The right of privacy applies equally to men and women. I fail to see what this has to do with the killing of an unborn child. Voters have the right to save the lives of unborn children, if they so desire.

    Pregnancy can be dangerous but then again, so can walking on an icy sidewalk. The solution is to not walk on an icy sidewalk in the first place. Similarly, one can use a condom, a diaphragm, an IUD or a birth control pill to not get pregnant in the first place.

    Religion had nothing to do with the Dodd decision. Abortion isn't mentioned in the Constitution so the federal government has no jurisdiction. Again, in accordance with the Constitution, powers not given to the federal government revert to the states. There is nothing about religion in that entire process.

    A woman's pregnancy is none of my business. Murdering an unborn child... IS. Many voters will support you in believing unborn children should be murdered, many won't. Voters will decide in each state. That's how democracy works.
     
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    Don't change the subject.

    Do I have the same right to privacy and autonomy as you do?

    Please see #165, which is directed at you as well as the person to whom I replied.
     
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    You people? Kind of hostile there.

    The right has spent a lot of time and energy drumming up outrage about late term abortions, which constitute about 1% of all abortions. So, tit for tat.
     
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    Of course we ALL have the same right to privacy. What has that to do with an unborn child's right to live?
     
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    I didn't change the subject at all.

    The 4th amendment doesn't apply to men when it comes to pregnancy. Privacy and autonomy doesn't apply to any man that participates in an unintended pregnancy.

    The 4th amendment doesn't apply to anyone harming their children or being bad parents either.

    Nor should it apply to killing a child just because of where it is when you kill it.
     
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    Who's body is it inhabiting?
     
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    Then your body is my business, I have to insure that if someone needs your blood, bone marrow, ect to keep them alive YOU WILL DONATE.
     
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    So now we have a rape problem in the U.S. Anything to glaze over stupidity and ignore preventative's. It would seem "IF" rape is prevalent as you are making it sound, you would think a contraceptive much like a firearm, personal protection! But that would make too much sense, right! Why would someone use anything to prevent when they can have a medical procedure to correct ignorance!
     
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    So, in your world, taking a life is somehow the same as saving a life :roll:
     
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    My bone marrow is not a person... an unborn child is. My blood is not a person... an unborn child is. ALL LIVES MATTER.
     
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    You want to seize control of a womans body to prevent an innocent from dying, so your body will be seized for the same purpose.
     
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    You want to seize control of a womans body to prevent an innocent from dying, so your body will be seized for the same purpose.
     
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    My body hasno one living inside it. But what about all the millions of liberals? Trump is living rent free inside all of them.
     

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