Climate Change 2022: Mitigation of Climate Change

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  1. Jack Hays

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    Advocates for change need not know what they're doing.

    Exploiters versus experts

    Posted on November 28, 2022 by curryja | 37 comments
    by Planning Engineer (Russell Schussler)

    The unfolding saga around FTX, the cryptocurrency exchange currently in bankruptcy, appears to share some similarities with factors which led to the demise of Enron. Enron and FTX both initially achieved success because they were able to exploit some of the inefficiencies present in a complex system.

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    The lessons taught by experience are not graded on the curve.

    Save America’s Grid!
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    It is the mad rush to replace reliable coals and nuclear power plants with weather dependent wind and solar power. This simply does not work and we are beginning to…
     
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    The Manhattan Contrarian Energy Storage Paper Has Arrived!
    December 01, 2022/ Francis Menton
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    • Today my long-awaited energy storage paper was officially published on the website of the Global Warming Policy Foundation. Here is a link.

    • Most of the points made in the paper have been made previously on this blog in one form or another. However, there is a good amount of additional detail in the paper that has never appeared here. I’ll provide one example of that today, and more of same in coming days.

    • The main point of the paper is that an electrical grid powered mostly by intermittent generators like wind and sun requires full backup from some source; and if that source is to be stored energy, the amounts of storage required are truly staggering. When you do the simple arithmetic to calculate the storage requirements and the likely costs, it becomes obvious that the entire project is completely impractical and unaffordable.

    • The activists and politicians pushing us toward this new energy system of wind/solar/storage are either being intentionally deceptive or totally incompetent.
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    Great article. Probably something climate panic people constantly ignore with a wave of their hand. What they seldom if ever consider is that any time the primary system fails to meet demand and backups have to kick in is that at some point the system is going to have to deliver full load PLUS enough extra to recharge the backup system.

    I dropped that little grenade on a climate extremist friend the other day over a happy hour IPA and his jaw almost hit the table.
     
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    Why so many climate forecasts are spectacularly wrong.


    “Colorful fluid dynamics” and overconfidence in global climate models

    Posted on December 2, 2022 by curryja | 86 comments
    by David Young

    This post lays out in fairly complete detail some basic facts about Computational Fluid Dynamics (CFD) modeling. This technology is the core of all general circulation models of the atmosphere and oceans, and hence global climate models (GCMs). I discuss some common misconceptions about these models, which lead to overconfidence in these simulations. This situation is related to the replication crisis in science generally, whereby much of the literature is affected by selection and positive results bias.

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    Interesting followup to my #1656. Some actually study and investigation about the about of backup a solar/wind driven electrical system would require. LINK> I knew it was going to be big but I have no idea it was this humongous:

    It seems that most of the backup system designs so far are nowhere near capable of maintaining the load over an extended time. Little better than lip-service from what I read.
     
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    It's cold in Australia.

    Australia Sees Coldest And Wettest Spring In Decades Amid Third La Niña In A Row
    By P Gosselin on 6. December 2022

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    By Die kalte Sonne.
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    2007 La Nina. Symbol image, from NASA.

    When it comes to German TV meteorologists, warm and dry weather is no longer good weather, but bad weather. At least that’s what often we read. Australia has at present very beautiful weather by this logic. ABC reports about an unusually cold season down under. . . .
     
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    Bad for business in Australia.

    Green Energy Construction Company Collapse Triggers Aussie Government Crisis Talks
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    Green energy construction firm destroyed by the shift to green energy? $10 billion of energy transition projects at risk.

    Clough collapse threatens $10b of energy transition projects

    Angela Macdonald-Smith and Jenny Wiggins
    Dec 6, 2022 – 6.45pm

    Federal Energy Minister Chris Bowen is seeking urgent briefings from his department as the government seeks to limit the fallout from the collapse of engineering contractor Clough, amid a threat to almost $10 billion of projects critical to Australia’s energy transition.

    Industry observers warned that Clough’s administration, which occurred after a $350 million sale deal with Italy’s Webuild fell through, would delay and could drive up costs of the Perth-based contractor’s projects.

    These include some of Australia’s biggest projects, such as the $5.9 billion Snowy 2.0 storage venture and the $3.3 billion Project EnergyConnect electricity interconnector between South Australia and NSW, as well as one of the few gas power plants being built in the National Electricity Market.

    In the wake of the Clough administration, Credit Suisse analyst Saul Kavonic said cost increases appear inevitable for at least some of the projects, including Snowy 2.0 and Waitsia, “with risks of delays also rising”. . . .
     
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    Fossil fuels are a boon to humankind.

    The Great Climate Con | Alex Epstein | #312
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    Dr. Jordan B. Peterson and Alex Epstein discuss the undeniable need for fossil fuels, the toxic underlying nihilism of the “climate concerned” left, the need for balance between conservation and…
     
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    Score a win for coal.

    Cumbria Coal Mine Gets Go-Ahead
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    The fate of the West Cumbria Mining project had been hanging in the balance for two years after the local county council initially approved the mine in 2020. . . .
     
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    Once again, you reject science in favor of popular social opinion.
     
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    I merely report the data.
     
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    The alarmists are fibbing again.

    The Impossibility Of Bridging The "Last 10%" On The Way To "100% Clean Electricity"

    December 10, 2022/ Francis Menton
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    • As my last post reported, the Official Party Line from our government holds that we have this “100% Clean Electricity” thing about 90% solved. As the government-funded NREL put it in their August 30, 2022 press release,[a] growing body of research has demonstrated that cost-effective high-renewable power systems are possible.”

    • But then they admit that that statement does not cover what they call the "last 10% challenge” — providing for the worst seasonal droughts of sun and wind, that result in periods when there is no renewable power to meet around 10% of annual electricity demand.

    • That last 10%, says NREL, will require one or more “technologies that have not yet been deployed at scale.”

    • But hey, we’ve got 90% of this renewable transition thing solved. How hard could figuring out that last 10% really be?
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    Nuclear power has been less attractive because of its incredible expense and very long lead times.

    One can look at the nuclear plant being built in eastern UK. Such a plant in the US is not going to be cheaper and it isn't going to result in lower energy costs to consumers than it will in UK.

    We tend to work on projects that are justified under our capitalist system. That system requires reasonably near term payoff to investors and a profitable product.

    We may well need nuclear power. To do that, we need to find answers concerning these two factors.
     
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    I'm pretty surprised at that attempt to present information.

    Those who are aware of our climate crisis are unlikely to be interested in sitting through that.

    Plus, those totally confused are unlikely to want to go to a theater and sit through a lesson in climatology.
     
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    This is all about Russian oil and gas

    https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw...llions-in-lost-royalties-20221212-p5c5ou.html
     
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