Let's get some stuff straight about Hunter and Joe.

I swear, Republicans in congress are going to wind up with a truckload of egg on their faces.

I'm reminded of years of investigations of the Clintons and what did they find on the Clintons that they could prosecute them with?

Nada, zip, zilch. N-O-T-H-I-N-G.

Hunter is a private citizen. He has admitted he profited off the family name. This phenomenon isn't that uncommon for children of famous parents and politicians.

Would you turn down an $80,000 per month job on a board of a corporation, knowing that you probably got the gig 'cause your papa was the Vice President?

Would you? Be honest. As for Hunter's qualifications, I get the idea from Trumpsters that he's some kind of crackhead shlep picked up from crawling around the dregs of some back alley, but that is simply not the case. He Graduated from Yale Law School, Undergrad degree at Georgetown and passed the bar. He's a corporate lawyer.

Now, the schooling alone won't qualify you to be a board member at a large corporation, but this work history should do just fine (source https://www.opensecrets.org/revolving/rev_summary.php?id=20130):




There is no question that Hunter Biden was qualified to sit on the board, he's been on a few boards, was vice chair on Amtrak. One does not have to have specific experience in a specific industry to be a board member, but a lot of generalized experience and the right schooling will do just fine, they often want an outsider's perspective, boards consist of members from various specialties. There are many board members in corporate world who are nothing but professional board members who sit on the boards of several companies.

Hunter was a private citizen and Jared and Ivanka held senior WH staff positions. I mean, even if Biden made a bundle of his son's deals (of which their is zero proof) why do republicans and those on the right even care? Did he have a drug problem? Sure, he's admitted it, and he's worked on it, his story is one of a guy who broke bad, but got help and put himself back on the good road.

But you are saying you care about Hunter Biden? Why? We heard nary a peep out of Republicans when Jared and Ivanka used their connections, as SENIOR STAFF MEMBERS to make mega bucks. Not a word. And after daddy said 'no foreign deals' did they do foreign deals? Yes, they did.

Jared Kushner and Ivanka Trump made at least $62 million in outside income last year
while serving in the white house, filings show. Including Ivanka earned $3.9 million from her
stake in the Trump International Hotel in Washington and more than $2 million in severance from the Trump Organization, while Jared reported over $5 million in income from Quail Ridge, a Kushner Cos. apartment complex acquired last year in Plainsboro, N.J.

Not to mention the Chinese government granted a total of 41 Trademarks to companies linked to Ivanka Trump by April of 2019--the trademarks she applied for after her father became President got approved about 40% faster than those she requested before Donald Trump's victory in the 2016 election. Not to mention Ivanka Trump's Jewelry Compnay used Ivanka's "60 Minute" appearance to promote a high-end bracelet from her fashion line,

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...1d0720-6dab-11e8-bd50-b80389a4e569_story.html

And how about how Don Jr. and Eric Trump claims that they 'no longer profite from foreign deals'. Well they have sold more than $100,000,000 worth of their father's real estate since he took office.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/danale...00-million-of-real-estate-since-taking-office

Other deals wouldn't turn heads if the seller were anyone but the president of the United Stats. With Trump in the Oval Office, however, things can get strange. Take the roughly $900 million sale of Spring Creek Towers, America's largest federally subsidized housing complex. Trump owned a 4% stake,a remnant of his father's outer-borough empire. Secretary of Housing and Development Ben Carson had to give his approval to make the deal happen, according to property records. That put Trump's subordinate in an awkward position of having to green-light a transaction that paid his boss and estimated $33,000,000

In the Dominican Republic, the younger Trumps sold a piece of land in January 2018 for $3.2 million.It was the clearest violation of their father's pledge to do no new foreign deals while in office.

The visit by the younger Mr. Trump, intended to help sell more than $1 billion in luxury residential units in India, being built by the Trumps and their local partners, has been promoted with newspaper advertisements that read: 'Trump has arrived. Have you?".

Here's the deal, if anyone does anything wrong while holding any office, they should be held accountable, but what is your evidence of Joe Biden wrong doing? I've looked at all of it, it's just emails and innuendo, stuff that the best you can claim is worthy of further inquiry, but evidence, no, it's not evidence of squat. Which tells me, given that republicans suing on Behalf of Trump during his attempt to squash Biden's victory, when they thought they had evidence, no judge, including those appointed by republicans and Trump, himself, accepted Trump's or his surrogate's evidence. "lacked merit" each and every judge who looked at evidence, wrote in their rulings, which goes to my point here about the laptop, Republicans simply do not graps what evidence actually is.

As for the Twitter saga, 'suppressing Hunter's laptop' Elon Musk tweeted @elonmusk:

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1598853708443357185

Twitter acting by itself to suppress free speech is not a 1st amendment violation, but acting under orders from the government to suppress free speech, with no judicial review, is.

But, he forget ot mention one small detail: The whole twitter saga took place in the summer of 2020 when Joe Biden was candidate, and the president was Donald Trump.

Hah!

Fire away, give dems your best shot, (as the song goes).

How about working together to get stuff done for the American People? Hmmm?





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You started out pretty good in your defense of Hunter, but then you veered off into whataboutism. This makes more than half your post irrelevant.

Be that as it may, you discount Hunter profiting off his father's name as nothing more than - well, they all do it. You are correct in that it isn't illegal, but it certainly is unethical.

You ignore Hunter's actual illegal activities, such as tax evasion, drug use and weapons violations and you totally ignore possible violations and unethical behavior on the part of Joe, while he was VP and while he was a candidate for President. Furthermore, there is also the possibility of Joe, as President, being compromised by his and his son's connections to shady business dealings around the world.

The fact is, there's a LOT for both Hunter and Joe to answer for. Since the corrupt DOJ won't look into this stuff and the Democratic controlled Congress won't look into this stuff, it's going to be up to the Republican House to look into this next year.

The only questions that remain are how much resistance to gathering info will the House face and how much the media will minimize anything that is released to the public.

 

They fail to realize the anger at Trump is guilty of everything we can make up but Biden can't possibly be guilty of anything he has actually done.

 

Coming to a theater near you..... the investigation into "resident of the oval orifice" Joe Biden's involvement into the Biden's family shady foreign deals....
Starring Comer, McCarthy, Jordan and the boys down at the Capitol building theater starting January.

 

“The Family’s Influence Peddling is a National Security Risk – Maybe He Is Compromised?” – House Oversight Ranking Member James Comer on Joe Biden (VIDEO)
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...t-ranking-member-james-comer-joe-biden-video/

 

"Ten percent for the Big Guy".

That phrase will live in infamy.

 

Hey Now, lets not forget Kush's daddy spent time in the Klink for ripping people off (?) or some such. Chris Christie put that m*** away and Crooked Donnie, FIL, pardoned him.
The Trump Mantra, if you are scum, surround yourself with MORE scum so it's harder to see you.

 

how funny that your pretty list does not quite cover ALL of the Biden crime family "shell companies"


but let me help you out of how a crime family uses shell companies...

https://bidenlaptopreport.marcopolousa.org/report_viewer/index.html#p=59

 

MY, MY, MY... let's have a look at the "alleged" crimes the Biden crime family may well have been involved in... and yes that very well may include ole Joe Biden in the mess... with a truthful and thorough investigation...... something that has never happen...

Thanks Marco Polo for the real and hard work you put into this stuff..
https://bidenlaptopreport.marcopolousa.org/report_viewer/index.html#p=57

 

Ignoring your whataboutism....Hmm...Maybe I'm confusing you with someone else...but aren't you always hollering about "whataboutism"?

That Hunter made bank/deals as a private citizen is no big deal. No one cares about that. What IS of concern is how much did his father play a part in it as VP and now as President? I'd also go back farther and include when Biden was a Senator. Biden lied when he said that he and Hunter never talked about any of Hunters business dealings. As thick as they are together one would have to be deaf, dumb, and blind to believe such a statement. But beyond that there is evidence that they did indeed talk about Hunters business dealings. Up to and including pictures of Hunter and Biden standing together with Hunters foreign business associates. While Biden was VP. "10% for the Big Guy" needs to be looked into.

Note though, I don't expect anything to come up in the investigation. Most of DC elites are Democrat and will never treat Democrats the same as they treat Republicans. And they sure as hell are not going to dig heavily into the person that Represents them at the Top. They WILL cover, lie, obfuscate, and spin furiously to protect Biden. That is just plain reality. Hillary proved that beyond a shadow of a doubt.

 

You go all around Robin Hood's barn and then cite a ton of irrelevancies to get nowhere.. My perception is that Hunter is a bona fide scumbag and has done much untoward stuff but nothing illegal that I am aware of. The only thing that approaches illegality is his selling influence and access to a vice president and using his daddy's office to get him out of jams. However, that would not be illegal on Hunter's part. There might be illegality on Joe's part but that is very elusive and amorphous. Technically it might be impeachable but that horse has long since left the corral.

 

Hell yes! That you imply you would take such a gig knowing it's corruption says a lot about your lack of integrity.

 

Possession of a gun by a former convict and doing mass amount of drugs are legal where you are at?

 

Interesting.

With this being as common as you claim, what other politicians' children do you know of that have earned millions of dollars working directly for foreign companies and/ or governments?

 

Let's be clear. These investigations are about the 2024 election. About smearing Joe in case he runs. Just as the endless Benghazi investigations were about weakening Hillary's candidacy. It's Kabuki theater.

 

China grants 18 trademarks in 2 months to Trump, daughter

SHANGHAI (AP) — The Chinese government granted 18 trademarks to companies linked to President Donald Trump and his daughter Ivanka Trump over the last two months, Chinese public records show, raising concerns about conflicts of interest in the White House.

In October, China’s Trademark Office granted provisional approval for 16 trademarks to Ivanka Trump Marks LLC, bringing to 34 the total number of marks China has greenlighted this year, according to the office’s online database. The new approvals cover Ivanka-branded fashion gear including sunglasses, handbags, shoes and jewelry, as well as beauty services and voting machines.
https://apnews.com/article/north-am...ivanka-trump-0a3283036d2f4e699da4aa3c6dd01727

 

"Granted to companies linked to"....Is that working directly for China? No

Sorry, but you can try again where you actually answer the question that was asked if you like.

 

I was just wondering about the creation of this thread, and the intent behind it. Is China really so desperate that they would push this narrative on a simple forum like this? Now that we have the actual evidence the CCP used TikTok, who can guess?

But let the investigation begin. And let all of the criminality of the Biden Crime Family be exposed. And when the MSM choose not to report on it, their collusion with the DNC et al can no longer be ignored.

What I suspect here is that we are seeing the mobilization of the faithful here. The we won at any cost crowd, the authoritarians of the democratic party have demanded that the pubic be abused with this BS now being spread by them. But, of course, having done so does expose their specious nature to the rest of us. And we all see it, warts and all. Because, really in the mind of the authoritarians in the democratic party, the rest of us aren't entitled to fair, or equal, just the favors provided by the plantation. No other comments will be tolerated, or allowed.

 

Because corruption is wrong even if there is a D by their name.

 

Why? Because I'm here to debate politics. Hunter is a private citizen and there are thousands of white collar crimes being committed, and I'm no more interested in their crimes why should I be interested in Hunter's? If he were, like Jared and Ivanka, a Senior WH Staff, that would be different but that isn't the case.

The only evidence I've seen offered on this forum is material that is predication for further inquiry and clarification.
I"ve seen no direct evidence if any untoward act committed by Joe, himself, other than his letters to his son expressing his father/son love.

The point was that he wasn't in Government, and couldn't have ordered Twitter to suppress the story. IN fact, Team Trump, as I understand it, did much of that, as well.

All the evidence shows is predication for further inquiry, (and there is an investigation, FYI) there is no direct evidence of that. 'Possibiity' isn't evidence, it's the basis for inquiry, and no conclusions should be drawn before evidence is provided.

I repeat, there is only evidence predicating inquiry, that's it, and there is an investigation. There is the one by Grassley and there is the one by David Weiss (see below). More than that is hysterics. Grassley's conclusions I wouldn't trust.

I've seen no evidence the Garland DOJ is corrupt. DOJ IS looking into this 'stuff', the US Attorney Delaware, David Weiss, appointed by Trump, was assigned by Bill Barr to investigate the Biden affair. Note that normally US Attorneys are replaced with a new administration, and Joe left him in place to finish his job. so this idea that Joe is corrupt is nonsense. You think Trump would have allowed that attorney to remain? Hell no. He fired NY US Attorney Preet BHarara, after he had previously promised he wouldn't, AFTER he discovered Bharara was investigating Trump. Well, Weiss's investigation has been going on for 3 years, and the only thing that has emerged from it his he said he might be indicting Hunter on tax issues, and lying on a gun application. So NOTHING about our current president. If he does indict Hunter, I hope he has a slam dunk case.

No, the only question that remains should be put to David Weiss.

 

Great job as "straight" as a dozen pretzels.

I assume by "working together" you mean follow your enlightened leadership

 

HUNTER a private citizen. The alleged 'crimes' do not link to more details.

The one's here do.

Here's A LIST OF CRIMES of the former PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES

https://www.citizensforethics.org/r...trumps-staggering-record-of-uncharged-crimes/

If you don't give a damn about the President, how can you claim you care about a private citizen?

David Weiss US Atty Delaware, says he has evidence for tax issues and lying on a gun applicate.

If any of that were as you suggest, he'd be indicting for it, and he hasn't.

Fire away, but I'm not interested in the tax failings of private citizens. If it is first offense, he'll pay what he owes plus a fine.

BFD.

 

Yet another logical fallacy from you...Lather, rinse, repeat.

WHATABOUTISM?
WHATABOUTISM OR WHATABOUTERY (AS IN "WHAT ABOUT…?") DENOTES IN A PEJORATIVE SENSE A PROCEDURE IN WHICH A CRITICAL QUESTION OR ARGUMENT IS NOT ANSWERED OR DISCUSSED, BUT RETORTED WITH A CRITICAL COUNTER-QUESTION WHICH EXPRESSES A COUNTER-ACCUSATION.
Whataboutism? - Know Your Logical Fallacies

 

Cause democrats havn't been doing that with Trump since 2016?

 

Be so kind as to present evidence Hunter worked for the government of another country. Thanks.