BREAKING: Trump Sets The Record Straight After Leftists Accuse Him Of Wanting To “Terminate” The Con

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  1. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Great! And it was about time, too.

    Now, anybody else giving up on the dictator wannabe who wants to terminate the Constitution?
     
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    Only Trump knows what he meant. Then, you have people who hate Trump who create definitions of what he says.

    I am not interested in Hillary's election denials, but I do think she has a right to make claims against the election just like Trump can whine and cry all he wants. In every nation on earth, there are those who whine and cry over elections. Even in those nations, we have haters who trash them just like you do here. Just humans being humans without rational thinking just creating hate and creating definitions to peoples statements without understanding the statements just to hate.
     
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    He hurt your feelings. There are therapists out there that can help.
     
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    He attempted to have himself installed as an unelected dictator, which those of use who actually care about the Constitution (this obviously excludes you) care about. You are mad that he failed, obviously. I'm sure there are support groups for that.
     
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    He never attempted anything like that, but extremists will try to make it seem so with sensational accusations.

    And, I already told you that I don't like Trump nor want him as President ever again. But, I do care about extremists creating lies out of pure hatred.
     
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    Yes. He absolutely did. That was the whole fake elector plot. But anti-Constitution extremists will always try to make anti-Constitutional excuses to defend his attempts to overthrow democracy.

    Yet you defend extremists creating lies out of a pure desire to overturn our elections. Weird.
     
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    What nonsense! ANYBODY who reads it and is not part of the Trump cult knows what he meant.

    There are many reasons to hate Trump: he punished children by separating them from their parents to "punish" them for trying to come into this country, he sent a mob to the Capitol to beat up cops and make him a dictator and made no effort to stop it, he was irresponsible in handling a pandemic and added hundreds of thousands to the number of lives lost, he has mishandled government documents that have likely put at risk the lives of many people working for us... MANY things. But to use the fact that Trump is a certified SOB, like you do, to justify his calling to terminate the Constitution is beyond words...
     
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    And, I already told you that I don't like Trump nor want him as President ever again. But, I do care about extremists creating lies out of pure hatred.

    Everything you just stated is not true or Trump would have been charged. Evidently, you are creating fantastical fairy tales involving your personal hatred of Trump.
     
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    Hillary and Trump both have the right to question an election they were a part of as accordance with the law regardless of whether you like it or not. It is not against the law. Grow up and Deal with it.
     
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    Yet you defend him for trying to overturn the election with such lies.

    It is objectively true, and you know that. You also know there are at least two criminal investigations looking into said charges.

    Evidently your pretend "I don't like Trump" act is betrayed by your willingness to defend his attempts to overturn our elections. Try starting with the Eastman memo. You won't.
     
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    Trump did more than just question it, unlike Hillary . . . who conceded and never, unlike Trump, tried to have herself installed as President anyway. This is the truth whether you like it or not. Grow up and deal with the Constitution. Your favorite wannabe dictator won't, but maybe you will.
     
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    I am giving up on anti-Trumper's powers of reasoning when confronted with having to read a written opinion by someone they hate.
    In their defense, it is a plague taking over the iPhone generation who’s attention span’s are being slaughtered by a mental life confined by a “page view” or a ten word synopsis of a topic.
     
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    Unfortunately for you, Trump has every legal right to contest election results even though he is losing badly at that and I hope he does lose this battle.

    Yet, he has every legal right against whatever belief you can dream of but will still be your fairy tale raging against Trumps fairy tale of overturning an election. He has every right to contest regardless of your crying about it.
     
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    He has no right to send illegal, unconstitutional electors. He has no right to overturn the election, which is what he tried to do. No, Clinton never did anything like that. And you can either support the Constitution or support his efforts, but supporting one means rejecting the other.

    There is no legal right to replace legal electors with fake, illegal electors. I'm sorry you are so offended by the thought that others might dare object to the Dear Leader's attempts to overturn the Constitution, which you are now supporting.
     
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    Trump had every right to contest the election and used legal methods to do so.

    You can cry all you want, but he did absolutely nothing illegal as per the DOJ.

    You just don't like the fact that someone you despised contests an election against a party you worship.
     
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    Fake, illegal electors are not a "legal method."

    Cry all you want, but illegal, fake electors are not legal, and the DOJ hasn't said they are . . . and the DOJ, along with at least one other state, is already criminally investigating.

    You just don't like the fact that someone cares about the Constitution even when it stands against the man you pretend not to worship. Yet you hold them above the Constitution. Funny how that works. Just to remind you, since you either haven't read it or don't care, but the Constitution does not allow for fake electors.
     
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    THERE IS NO PROOF. TRUMP IS NOT INDICTED.

    Your dreaming and spewing hatred again. Deal with it.
     
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    There is proof he tried the plot. And there are at least two criminal investigations into that plot.

    Your attempts to pretend that fake electors are somehow okay is PURE hatred for the Constitution. You can love the Constitution, or you can support fake electors, but you can't do both. I've made my choice. Clearly you have as well. But, please, tell me in the Constitution where I can find the idea that fake electors are okay. Go on.

    And why are you upset that people would "spew hatred" against attempts to overthrow the Constitution? Sounds like you think such attacks are okay and would rather cuddle up to them then "spew hatred" against them.
     
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    There is zero proof that Trump, himself, is tied to anything.
     
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    I do hate Trump. What moral person in their right mind wouldn't hate a guy who punishes children because their parents brought them to this country, by separating them with no plan to ever reunite them again? I also hate Jeff Sessions for the same reason. So what? Your red herring has NOTHING to do with any of this

    And I know exactly what you're trying to say. You are trying to make believe that what Trump meant was that if there was fraud in this election, then why have a Constitution at all. This is such an absurd argument that it doesn't deserve ANY attention. There is absolutely NO way that text could be interpreted that way. It's OBVIOUS to anybody who read what he actually wrote that this is not even close to what he meant even in the most flexible imaginable way. The fact that you WISH that that had been what he said does not make it so. And even rebutting your absurd point is giving it more credibility than it deserves. And your nonsense about people READING what he wrote because they "hate" Trump makes it even worse.

    So don't expect any of that to be taken seriously by anybody... maybe not even by the most devout Trump loyalists. Because I do believe that most of them are reasonably intelligent human beings.
     
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    If that's what you need to tell yourself. Will you at least show enough respect for the Constitution to AT LEAST condemn the fake elector plot, even if Trump himself wasn't personally involved in it? Simple ask. Should be an easy request.
     
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    The DOJ could not find any evidence that Trump, himself, knew anything about the fake electors. He could have known or he didn't know. Fact is, both sides are placing blame with left extremists screaming the loudest.
     
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    Those investigations have not concluded.

    The Eastman memo says he did know.

    Fact is, you can't even bring yourself to condemn such a blatant attack on the Constitution because you are worried that Trump is tangled up in it. What's so hard about saying that you are against using unconstitutional, illegal, fake "electors" to overturn elections? Anyone who loves the Constitution should be able to say so with no hesitation. Why do you hesitate? Even assuming for a moment that Trump was in no way involved (since your love of Trump seems to prevent you from answering), let's assume he had no idea. Why can you STILL not condemn the plot?
     
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    You took Trump’s words and twisted them as if it was the honorable thing to do - just like most of the media.
     
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    It's interesting to notice how in this thread, as well as all others about the topic, WHICH side quotes again and again Trump's words verbatim. And which side just... says... that they have this "magical" interpretation by which Trump wasn't saying what his words SAY.
     
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