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Funding dropped for 87,000 IRS agents.

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  1. SiNNiK

    SiNNiK Well-Known Member

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    A win from McCarthy!

     
    SiNNiK, Jan 9, 2023
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    Senate won't pass it - just a political statement, that's all
     
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    Can you state why having sufficient agents to be able to audit very large returns is such a bad thing in conservative eyes?

    The only people that benefit from them being understaffed are the very wealthy.

    And you don’t understand how this works if you believe a prior bill can be reversed in one chamber.
     
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    That's a large part of the manipulation, getting the conservative masses to believe that this is about helping the "little guy" when it is really just to protect the wealthy
     
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    The 87,000 agents were to be armed with $700K worth of ammo they bought last year.

    https://www.verifythis.com/article/...tion/536-0ce9f538-a372-4c26-8013-1ab4e571578c

    And nearly 5,000 guns, including machine guns.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/robert...unds-ammunition-paying-taxes/?sh=2d54d2911f9e
     
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    the reverse question is why are lefties so orgasmic over civilian agents being armed with weapons that said lefties don't trust private citizens to own?
     
    Turtledude, Jan 9, 2023
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    The agents were not auditors, they were to be members of IRS' CID team, as they are the only ones permitted to be armed.
     
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    Not handguns, sub-machine guns.
     
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    I don’t have an issue with trained individuals having weapons

    Another person that seems unable to answer such simple questions. The cognitive dissonance is astounding.
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Still unable to answer a question.
    Fascinating
     
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    I have a problem with a federal agency that violates the fourth amendment constantly and I have a problem with the entire federal income tax. I was a federal law enforcement officer for 24 years and we don't need so many federal agents being armed
     
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    They are no auditors.
     
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    what are they being armed for? Most IRS investigations don't require that
     
    Turtledude, Jan 9, 2023
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    By defunding the IRS it doesn’t change income tax rules, it just doesn’t allow the very rich to be audited.

    Again, what is being accomplished?
     
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    true, this raises troubling questions about the Biden government
     
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    what is the purpose having 87,000 more armed federal agents when the issue isn't violent felons
     
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    My guess is they were going to take a different angle when it comes to collections.
     
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    They were not auditors.
     
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    threatening violence apparently
     
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    All authorized positions were not going to be part of the CI team. That’s just absurd

    That department is about 2,000 agents
     
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    The only positions allowed to be armed is the CID dept.

    They were going to be 89,000 agents, but not anymore.
     
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    First, the vast majority of these positions are staggered over the next 5 years to replace agents that are retiring — they are not new positions

    Second, the IRS is so understaffed that they cannot go after very large and complicated returns so they don’t even bother

    Again, what is being accomplished
     
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    No one said they are all going to be armed — that’s your own strawman

    You don’t understand how the government works if you believe the house can unravel a law without the senate being involved
     
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    The Russian sympathizers are at it again.
     
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