Get Woke, Go Broke: How Higher Ed’s Push for “Equity” is Backfiring, Hard.

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  1. Zorro

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    Get the Oppression Out Of Higher Ed

    State Lawmakers Can Reform Higher Ed: The vast majority of college students attend state schools.

    'Many Americans despair of reforming the culture of higher education. But a substantial majority of college students attend public institutions, and these schools are subject to state law. If legislators are determined to restore free speech and academic freedom, there’s a lot they can do. In cooperation with the Goldwater Institute, we’ve developed model state legislation based on four reform proposals:'

    They have to be committed to Reform.

    • 'Abolish “diversity, equity and inclusion” bureaucracies. These offices work actively against norms of academic freedom and truth-seeking, advance primarily political aims, and fuel administrative bloat that raises costs and exacerbates student debt. Administrators at public institutions should maintain official neutrality on controversial political questions extraneous to the business of educating students. Leave compliance with federal and state civil-rights laws to the university counsel’s office.'
     
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    • 'Forbid mandatory diversity training for students, faculty and staff. Even when DEI officials claim their training is “voluntary,” it’s often required for faculty who wish to perform basic extracurricular roles, such as serving on hiring committees. Typical diversity training includes unscientific claims about “microaggressions” and “implicit bias” and rejects the basic American principle that everyone should be treated equally. It indoctrinates an ideology of identity-based grievance, guilt and division.'

    Get That Racist Crap Out Of Public Colleges!

    • 'Curtail the use of “diversity statements” as a means of political coercion. These serve as litmus tests in employment processes to exclude applicants who don’t adhere to critical race theory and other radical beliefs. Although the Supreme Court has long held that requiring loyalty oaths in public education is unconstitutional—as are other forms of compelled speech—universities increasingly require that applicants state their belief in the importance of DEI, cite prior personal efforts to promote DEI and pledge to integrate DEI into their teaching. Applicants for many positions have been eliminated on the basis of diversity statements alone and many universities condition their hiring decisions on the applicant’s ideological conformity.'

    Loyalty Oaths Are Compelled Speech

    • 'End racial and other identity-based preferences. The Supreme Court may do this in a few months anyway by holding that racial preferences violate the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and, in the case of public institutions, the 14th Amendment. Regardless of how the justices rule, discriminating based on race, sex, ethnicity or national origin is antithetical to universities’ basic missions. Outlawing admissions and hiring based on these characteristics would curtail universities’ efforts to evade a mandate against them from the high court.'

    End The Racism In Higher Ed

    'These straightforward reforms would go far in pushing back on some of the negative trends that have afflicted higher education—without intruding on curricula or other aspects of academic life. They would free faculty and students alike to explore intellectual ideas without fearing the thought police.'

    Endorsed. Make College Great Again!
     
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    Got anything current?
     
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    Knowledge without wisdom sir is like a Farari without gas. A really big and clumsy wagon. A man or woman trained to think in only certain ways is useless no matter how much knowledge he pretends to.
     
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    Knowledge without wisdom? What does that mean? Wisdom is gained through knowledge and not the other way around. Knowledge is what allows us to know the data and facts and knowing those is what brings us wisdom.

    Definition of Wisdom:

    The ability to make good judgments based on what you have learned from your experience, or the knowledge and understanding that gives you this ability.
     
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    Wisdom sir is the ability to make affective use of knowledge.
     
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    You said it. You need to have knowledge before you can have wisdom. Previously, you stated you needed to have wisdom first in order to acquire knowledge. That is not how it works.
     
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    Not stupid proposals like holding back the White kids because black kids can't do math. In Virginia they withheld notifying students of merit awards because black kids don't get them.
     
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    Explain your "holding back" statement. Show me where this is holding those kids BACK?
     
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    Wrong, backwards. The world is full of educated idiots. That's why most of the pronouncements of the Davos crowd sound like the cackling of madmen.
     
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    There's no war on education. You may think so, but the war you see would be to address the fact that education is being replaced by indoctrination- mis-education, reducing the capacity of what a graduate is supposed to have acquired. Education is only the correct term if you are teaching knowledge understanding, skills and productivity that benefits your future- and that excludes a great deal of what takes place in our universities today. You may agree with teaching stupidity, but don't pretend that's education.
     
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    I went through business, accounting and engineering courses in university and saw none of what you state — the value of the education wholly depends on the choices made by the individual student and the electives they take.

    But thanks for your opinion.
     
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    Educated is not necessarily knowledgeable. knowledgeable idiots is an oxymoron. People who get educated don't necessarily gain knowledge. That is why in all schools they grade students with "A's" down to "F's". Some people listen and learn and some people don't.
     
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    I allready did. My reference speaks of eliminating advanced courses.
     
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    When you did that would matter greatly, because the nature of these universities seems to be changing drastically. The kind of courses you select would of course enter into what you are exposed too, but on the wide picture many things have seen ideology and politics replacing the norms of education.

    Here's a few examples from the famous places... Quotes of the professors in class.
    And this excludes the race wackos; this is just hatred for America, University style. Hundreds of such things on record.

    "The people of the Third World need our sympathetic understanding and, much more than that, they need our help. We can provide them with a margin of survival by internal disruption in the United States. Whether they can succeed against the kind of brutality we impose on them depends in large part on what happens here." -- Noam Chomsky, MIT

    "Kill all the rich people. Break up their cars and apartments. Bring the revolution home, Kill your parents". -- Bill Ayers, University of Illinois at Chicago

    "If you go to the Republican convention in Florida, you see all of the old Republicans with the dead skin cells washing off them. They’re cheap. They don’t want to pay taxes because they have already raped this country and gotten everything out of it they possibly could." -- William S. Penn, Michigan State University

    "The only true heroes are those who find ways that help defeat the U.S. military...I personally would like to see a million Mogadishus". -- Nicholas De Genova, Columbia University
     
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    And some people learn pointless crap that is if no real use any where other than the halls of academia. And one can very knowledgeable about sonnets and not know that ten percent of a 100k is 10 times as much as 10 percent of 10k.
     
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    Your reply is useless in addressing what I have said.
     
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    OF COURSE NOT, ESPECIALLY ONCE THEY DISCOVER THE PRICE TAG: Should Virginians Pay for University “Diversity” Leftism? 'The Virginia Association of Scholars has added up the costs of the DEI racket at the state’s public universities. The money spent on these bureaucrats, whose six-figure salaries often dwarf professors’ pay, could have paid for 150 full-time professors.'

    Just say no.
     
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    EVERYONE USED TO KNOW THIS. USED TO. Schools Should Think Twice Before Punishing Faculty for Their Speech: A North Carolina institution may soon learn a valuable lesson.

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    Hit them in the pocketbook.

    'A professor can’t be fired, demoted, or otherwise penalized just because he or she has said something that bothers administrators.'

    'There have been numerous cases fought on that issue, and freedom of speech always comes out on top. One might think that school officials would learn from that, but they seem strangely obtuse about the legal ramifications whenever they want to go after someone who has gotten their goat.'

    'They start with the assumption that they’re above the law. The six-figure damage awards discussed here are a good corrective, but it may take seven- or eight-figure damages to really drive the point home. And with all the mandatory legal trainings that are inflicted on faculty — Title IX, Title VI, FERPA, etc., etc. — we need mandatory free speech trainings for administrators. Follow the link for the latest example of administrators clueless thuggishness.'

    Free speech is dying at MIT, survey shows: 'Our ruling class in general opposes free speech, because it espouses ideas and policies that can’t possibly survive open criticism and debate.'
     
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    That's funny, mathematx:
     
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    In this environment I would probably make events like this completely online:
     
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    Newspeak on its way:
     
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    New CA 'diversity and inclusion' chief: Weinstein's victims knew what they were doing.

    Kevin E. Hooks also made light of Bill Cosby drugging and raping women.

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    'The man tapped by California's attorney general to be his agency's first diversity and inclusion chief says victims of serial rapist Harvey Weinstein knew what they were doing when they had sex with him, that he sympathized with Bill Cosby during his rape trial, and that innocent men need to be sacrificed for the sake of the #MeToo movement.'

    I wonder what kind of salary this clown is pulling down on the taxpayers dime.

    'The state's new diversity, equity, and inclusion guru Kevin E. Hooks said that the women who came forward to say they were forced to have sex with Weinstein were willfully choosing to trade sex for job opportunities in the film industry.'

    Presumably he is including Ms. Gavin Newsom, who says Weinstein raped her?

    'As Chief Diversity and Inclusion Officer, Hooks is responsible for "cultivating a work environment that values the differences, talents, and abilities of all employees."'

    I'd say that he will soon develop an overwhelming urge to spend more time with his family.
     
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    "This bill is outrageous!!!" said the dentist to his plumber. The plumber replied, "That's exactly what I said... when I was a dentist".
     
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