POLICE BRUTALITY

Black leaders are not liberal media
And while CNN might be slightly left it isn’t liberal media either.

Where has cnn said this event was due to white supremacy?

 

it is beyond me how many keep disobeying cops, disrespecting them and getting into altercations. Cops are humans and with guns so that is a danger, don't argue with them or run, or fight them. Simply shut your mouth and obey their commands. This will save a lot of lives... in almost every incident, the victim is in some sort of altercation with cops.

Having said the above, these 5 cops were way out of line... the guy may have pissed them off but he later gave up and was just being beaten...

 

He already contributed a helluva lot in his O/P. Try reading it again.

 

it's simple...

#1. look at the facts. Have you? There are millions of arrests a year, thousands of cops are assaulted by people a year, there are thousands of altercations. How many unarmed blacks are killed a year? approx 10-20. Is that really a problem? I think not. That's a pretty low number

#2. Analyze crime and race. Most people killed by cops are white. When you adjust for crime, there is little evidence that blacks are targeted just for skin color.

#3. After you have analyzed these facts, ask yourself if there is even an issue. If there are millions of arrests a year and thousands of assaults against cops... is 10-20 unarmed men killed really an issue? Maybe we don't even have an issue with politics brutality.... Vast majority of cops save lives and are good, a few bad cops will do bad things. As i point out, the reason cops are made to be an issue is because there are some people who attack cops for selfish reasons, self-gains which are self-evident

We can discuss how to improve policing. It's quite simple, better de-escalation tactics, more use of non-deadly force, more integration of cops into their communities and guess what, MORE cops. When you have more cops, it is safer. Fight crime. If crime goes down, you will have less arrests, less confrontations, less unfortunate incidents. Back to my original point, we tend not to focus on these solutions as there are extreme elements who just want to abolish police and spew lies to create a narrative they think will benefit them personally. When we lie about the issues and distort reality, it becomes hard to fix anything.

 

Could you summarize? After the OP's question, "Are we finally going to look at this issue as (a) non-racial issue?" Every single sentence contains some reference to race, except for:

"This is purely cop training, tactics, lack of integration with communities and just BAD people,"

and then the very last line,

"Let others focus on the real problems and let's fix them."

Since I am a bit OCD, I will enumerate the references, per sentence:

1. white, white, black.
2. black, black, Latino, Latino, racial.
(3. the one line, above, actually addressing the nominal topic).
4. race.
5. "THUGS," race, BLM, racial.
6. white, white.
7. BLM, race.
8. Race thugs.
(9. the final sentence, above).

 

what is wrong with your cognitive function? you prove my point... i'm attacking the use of race to deflect from the real problems. How can i attack the use of race by race hustlers without discussing race? that would be challenging... what words would i use? teach me vocabulary... your reasoning is interesting.

 

PF allows a lot of posts from folks that harbor prejudice toward blacks. To me this constitutes two sides of the same coin - making it a difficult call for our mods. For example, without the leeway granted by this site to some folks that clearly debase themselves with their prejudices, from my point-of-view, obviously, I would not have had the fun and even the interesting research opportunity I found from that thread, with this post of mine being a ticket into the thread, fascinating stuff. The links in that thread to the 1860 census, oh man, perfectly grilled tenderloin for the history buff.

It *irks* me to no end when I see this trash wannabe intellectual crap from folks here arguing that discussions about race here are motivated by other interests, like BLM making PHAT CASH. GIVE ME A EFFING BREAK. It's 2023 and we Still have a divided society with respect to African v European descendants in the US, with the actual natives all but forgotten, living on freaking "reservations" with their own sad, heartbreaking in-fact, stories and culture.

This is the whole of the law: love-one-another, said Jesus, and then proceeded to cut the lawn....

 

It's a sword that cuts both ways. And just an FYI.... Following your link to that thread logged me out for some reason.

 

Oh, so now you are claiming that the purpose of your thread is to "attack the use of race, by race hustlers?" Well that fits much more, your OP. That was not the impression I got, from your thread title, "Police Brutality." Or from your ending line, "Let others focus on the real problems and let's fix them." In fact, your other quotes, contradict this current claim:

Mike12 said: ↑
race needs to be taken out of the equation when it really is not the issue.... the focus needs to be on the real issues.

Instead, you are going on and on about race, as if this deflection, itself, was the "real problem." But, in your quote, at top, you call the "use of race," something "to deflect from the real problems." While you certainly can claim you are attacking deflectors from the real problems, you are barely grazing those problems, yourself, but rather, fulsomely using the terms which you have defined, as deflecting from the real problems.




P.S.-- In answer to your first question, there is nothing of which I am aware, wrong with my cognitive function. Nor do I see any cause for a reasonable person to feel that there is any problem, with it. It would be more appropriate, to ask yourself, what is wrong with your discoursive skills, that you cannot carry on a simple debate of ideas, without immediately going to personal insults? This was the second time already, over a very short span, in which you have cast this baseless aspersion, my way. Some could easily take this, FYI, as a sign of your own struggling ability, to get a better response out of your own, cognitive functioning.

 

weird, link works for me at the moment...

maybe try this one?

http://politicalforum.com/index.php...lars-that-trumps-presidency-relies-on.572727/

 

Yeah, we agree then:

Apparently, unless I'm thinking of one thing and you're thinking of another....

Prejudice cuts only one way - to the detriment of those that succumb to it and to the detriment of those that may succumb to power wielded by those who have succumbed to it towards them.

 

The people who should be cops are smart enough not to be.

It's not a good job.

 

It works fine for me just for whatever reason it logged me out.

No big deal or nothing I was just saying.

 

I know some around here that I believe to be genuinely good men but I know at the end of the day when it comes right down to it they would lie to protect their own.

The cops are not your friend.

 

I think that's a component of being an enemy being removed from society the only people you have are other police they're the only ones that can understand they're the only ones that know the job.

And the more angry and the more hateful people become towards police because of what some jack off did the worse it gets not the better.

I agree with you 100% right here please most certainly are not your friends many of them tell you this.

I went to Police academy I tried to become a police officer I'm glad I didn't and this was about 2014. Something interesting that I noticed out of the class of people I graduated with we stayed in touch for a little while afterward every single person that was a veteran had a job. So they're looking for that unit working together forming a team kind of thing and teams look out for each other.

Someone that rats you out is out of the team. No not only are you ostracized with everyone else your ostracized from police too.

I wanted to be a police officer because I wanted to help people. If I should kindness and forgiveness and care for people maybe it would set them on the right track.

But I'm not doing that job. One wrong move and you're killed or injured or there's a bloodthirsty mob wanting to rip you to pieces. To a public that's that unappreciative **** you police yourselves. I'm not putting my life on the line for people like this. The rewards aren't worth it and this is every officer moving into the field that has this realization out of my class all the veterans are hired that six people. There is also a few people that were sent there by a department they were hired before they started Police academy. So that's another seven people. Everybody else didn't do it and the class was 42 people.

It is an absolute **** job, crap pay and they want to take more away no police yourselves.

 

Watching something earlier today about the Holocaust. And it was an account of someone who escaped extermination by playing dead. Before they started the death camps what they would do is they would get all the people on the town that were Jewish and lined them up and shoot them in the back of the head. Need these weren't Nazi soldiers that did this this was the Town Police so yeah don't trust them they're not your friends. They'll shoot you in the back of the head if they're ordered to.

That's one of the reasons why I think they prefer military veterans.

 

Cops will lie to you in a heartbeat and it's legal for them to do so.
It's also perfectly legal for you to lie to them as long as you're not signing some sort of sworn affidavit.

Never depend on a cop to give you accurate legal advice because that is not their job. It is up to you and you alone to know your rights. Because to the extent that you do not know your rights..... You effectively do not have those rights

 

Untrained people aren’t put in the situations cops are put in. You seem to not understand I was basically saying the same thing in that these bad cops are the wrong people for the job. They don’t have the mentality to handle the job.

 

Never. There's too much money and power in it for democrats.

 

One (or a few) incidents do not prove a point. There is racism the the U.S. It has been proven over and over again in many ways. By the same token (and in addition) there is also brutality, lack of caring of others, anger, ire, gang-mentality, etc. in people in general. Bottom line, humanity (or the lack of it) is shown all the time and this incident shows a total lack of humanity and lack of humanity is found in all races across the board.

That is happened here with Blacks against a Black man does not mean there is no racism in the U.S. It shows that many people lack humanity, in general.

 

You are right, this incident will not get the same amount of attention but you need to understand that people react more strongly depending on how "many" factors are involved.

In this case with Nichols, there are TWO factors, which are police and brutality. In the case of Floyd (for example), there were THREE factors in play, which are police, brutality AND racism.

People react more when there are THREE factors than when there are TWO. That is a general trait of humans.

 

So can you prove there was no racism involved with this case and I'm sure you're willing to prove there was racism involved in the Floyd case.

Sitting here with bated breath awaiting your evidence...

 

Baited breath does describe you well.

Having said that, my comment was more "general" than specific. It was not specifically about Nichols or Floyd but about police, bias, and lack of humanity that exists everywhere and in some cases even more so in the U.S. than anywhere else.

Nonetheless, you ask specifically about Floyd versus Nichols and racism, so I did do a bit of research and here is your answer:

Post-George Floyd report finds pattern of discrimination by Minneapolis police

So, the answer to your question is "Yes", it has been proven that there was racism involved in the Floyd case.

I hope that this answer got rid of your "baited" breath! I doubt it though.

 

We never will because that will never get politicians elected.

This is so f****n despicable. I’m talking about violence.

Violent people weather from police, military, domestic, or whatever or whoever I can’t think of right now, is so f****n absurd, and makes no sense until you factor in the politicians.

Politicians make people violent, weather through poverty, military, secret service, or whatever.

I’m being as honest as I can but: anyone ever seen a violent politician other than biden?

 

your doubt is well founded because your answer failed spectacularly at proving your claim.


" This investigation is not about one individual or one incident "....... I'm guessing you missed that part on purpose.

We both know that if the officers involved in this most recent incident were not all black but were white instead, that you would also blame it on racism.

Don't worry.... You're not the only progressive that was unable to play that card this time