Latest 'Gold Standard' Review Puts The Final Nail In The Coffin For Masks

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    The Cochrane Review's latest examination of a plethora of masking and other Covid intervention studies conducted before and during the Covid-19 pandemic should put the final nail in the coffin of the belief that widespread masking could have altered the trajectory of the outbreak.



    The analysis, which examined 78 studies featuring more than a million people around the world, found that community masking made "little to no difference" to either Covid death or infection rates.

    From the section on "Medical or surgical masks":



    Ten studies took place in the community, and two studies in healthcare workers….

    …The study's section on N95/P2 respirators was "also devastating," according to Dr. Vinay Prasad, a hematologist-oncologist and health researcher who is a professor of Epidemiology and Biostatistics at the University of California, San Francisco. It found that such masks made "little to no difference" when compared with medical or surgical masks.


    Four studies were in healthcare workers, and one small study was in the community. Compared with wearing medical or surgical masks, wearing N95/P2 respirators probably makes little to no difference in how many people have confirmed flu (5 studies; 8407 people); and may make little to no difference in how many people catch a flu‐like illness (5 studies; 8407 people), or respiratory illness (3 studies; 7799 people). Unwanted effects were not well‐reported; discomfort was mentioned.

    Writes Prasad: "Here is the big summary finding. With 276,000 participants in RCTs or cluster RCTs, masking does nothing. No reduction in influenza like or Covid like illness and no reduction in confirmed flu or COVID. That’s stone cold negative…





    https://townhall.com/tipsheet/scott...e-final-nail-in-the-coffin-for-masks-n2619180






    This settles it. I and many others were right all along. Mask wearing was absolutely useless in resisting the China virus.
     
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    Masks were never anything more than an authoritarian control tool used by fascists using “emergency” powers to exert raw power over we the people.
     
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    I honestly felt safer with the mask on in crowded places when covid was peaking. You don't need to be a doctor to know that viruses can go through cloth. Still, made me feel a little safer for some reason. even if it was just a placebo affect, that works for me
     
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    That was the only time besides Dr offices and work for a time where they were required that I wore one. Like in a crowded long line at the Walmart checkout line. Otherwise I made a point of not wearing them as most here where I live did.
    Here it really was that you could mostly tell what party someone was by whether they wore a mask or not.
     
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    Townhall.com???? Really?

    Let's see

    Townhall says

    The analysis, which examined 78 studies featuring more than a million people around the world, found that community masking made "little to no difference" to either Covid death or infection rates.​

    The "analysis" mentioned says

    Many studies were conducted during non‐epidemic influenza periods. Several were conducted during the 2009 H1N1 influenza pandemic, and others in epidemic influenza seasons up to 2016. Therefore, many studies were conducted in the context of lower respiratory viral circulation and transmission compared to COVID‐19.​

    Do people who still believe what they read on Townhall, also believe in elves? I think the latter would be more rational.

    I don't know if masks will turn out to have been effective or not. But if Townhall says it you can be sure of one thing: it belongs in the garbage.
     
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    Attacking the source rather than actually debating what the author wrote is a sign that the opponent has nothing to say.
     
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    False. Read the actual study next time


    Authors' conclusions
    The high risk of bias in the trials, variation in outcome measurement, and relatively low adherence with the interventions during the studies hampers drawing firm conclusions. There were additional RCTs during the pandemic related to physical interventions but a relative paucity given the importance of the question of masking and its relative effectiveness and the concomitant measures of mask adherence which would be highly relevant to the measurement of effectiveness, especially in the elderly and in young children.

    There is uncertainty about the effects of face masks. The low to moderate certainty of evidence means our confidence in the effect estimate is limited, and that the true effect may be different from the observed estimate of the effect. “

    Basically the study showed they don’t know whether masks helped. With low adherence, hard to draw any conclusions except people don’t do what you ask anyway
     
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    That coffin lid is more nails than wood by now.

    ...yet the mask zombie keeps getting out!
     
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    Attacking the source? I QUOTE the source. The study that originates the article. To prove that Townhall is lying. The studies DON'T conclude what the article claims.
     
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    So pathetic.

    The masks were an authoritian control tool... You sound ridiculous.

    Why did they let us take them off? let me guess, if it wasn't for all those freedom fighters protesting, we'd still be wearing masks and all be saying Hail Fauci.

    You have no idea what real oppression looks like.
     
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    This is good news, but to keep things in perspective, at the very beginning of the Plandemic, numerous dissenting scientists pointed out that starting in about 1946 and running through about 2014, all lab tests conducted regarding masks and the transmission of the flu virus showed that masks had no measurable effects on the transmission.
     
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    That you defend the authoritarian mask demand shows it is YOU that has no clue what real oppression looks like.
     
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    Well, who am I to question a Russian propaganda merchant's opinion of authoritarianism
     
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    Who are you to examine your conscience and offer good questions instead of absurdities?
     
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    Everything you say is absurd.
     
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    Yes it does conclude everything the article said it does.
     
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    In many areas it was seen as exactly that. A control tool, a symbol of obedience to the regime. In most places one could tell the political affiliation of people they encountered by whether they were wearing a mask or not.
     
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    NOT from 78 studies related to Covid, as my quote demonstrates. But from many studies that pre-dated Covid and analyzed much less infectious viruses.

    The two quotes are there. One from the study, and the one where Townhole.com CLAIMS is on the study. Reality is that right-wing blogs like this feed lies, and just about EVERY time somebody posts one here, they are this easy to debunk. You can ignore reality or accept it. Up to you.
     
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    Did you ask everyone who was wearing their mask what their political affiliation was?

    Do you think that most people even have a political affiliation?
     
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