Dems Brand Is 'Damaged' With Blue-Collar Voters

Dems Brand Is 'Damaged' With Blue-Collar Voters

That surprises no one.

'The party still faces stark and sometimes worsening challenges in largely white, working-class counties that will help decide the outcome of the next presidential election.'

The Privileged Gentry hold the Working Class in contempt.

'"Factory Towns." "Voters are both cynical about what we are saying now, and unaware of all that Democrats have accomplished that will directly benefit them."'

Not to mention all the weirdness.

WOKE IS WHACK

'While "working-class folks find urban and intellectual 'wokeism' annoying," the report says, "economic issues are driving the problems of Democrats in non-metro working class counties far more than the culture war."'

REAL WAGES ARE FALLING

Please discuss how you think that this will develop as the election gets closer.

 

Their sneering contempt for the working class is a good thing. Let them alienate the true backbone of this country.

You can see a good example right here on this forum by the way the lefties are always trying to tell us that the red states are the poor ones. Never mind the fact that they're not factoring in the population disparities.

The working class, the people who actually get s*** done. The lineman on call 24/7, your electricians and mechanics and plumbers and welders and roofers, even the lowly guy that works at the gas station during the wee hours of the night.

The very people the contemptuous progressives depend on for their daily existence.

 

It's actually a problem for them. The former white working class has left many of what are now the progressive strongholds, unable to continue to afford living there.
Now they have been replaced by unskilled immigrant labor. But the thing is, they've changed their whole economy to adapt to this unskilled labor.

And the other thing is, the really rich people at the top who live in these areas can still afford those white working class workers. (Obviously there's a tiny number of skilled working class people still left, and they have to raise their wages so those workers can pay for the outrageous cost of housing, because the skilled working class is not going to be living like the poor immigrants)

I think the economy in the antebellum Deep South had a similar economy. They actually had semi-skilled slaves doing all the type of work that the skilled working class in the North did. Although sometimes the richest of the plantation owners might temporarily bring in skilled artisans from the North.

 

Part of this may likely be due to inflation.

I'm not going to claim all (I don't know) but inflation does take a toll on wages.

 

the red wave is coming, lol.... sure it is, we know which party is for the rich and which one is for the working class

 

Yes we do. The party that ushered in double digit inflation while driving retirement accounts into the dirt and poisoning the air and water in working class towns is certainly for the working class.

 

We sure enough do, we know which party of pseudo intellectual elitist look down upon the working class with sneering contempt.

I think it's funny that people here attempt to shame me for having a job, can you guess what side of the aisle they're on?

 

that was Trump and his party that did that

 

only ones shaming those with actual working class jobs is the right

which party is against rising wages... yep, the republican leader of the fed said he was raising interest rates to prevent that

 

Lol..... No one in my entire life has ever attempted to shame me for having a job but a liberal. I would go ahead and mention his name to ask him but someone will probably report me.

 

That's a lie. Trump left Biden with 1.4% inflation. Buttegieg was on maternity leave, chest feeding, while simultaneously, Biden printed trillions of $$$'s with no goods leaving the west coast ports to meet the demand.
Biden and Obama launched the May 2014 gain of function project that developed COVID with money laundered through EcoHealth Alliance to Wuhan. Of course, that bioweapon development project launch preceded the Obama regime claiming to end dangerous gain-of-function research as reported in an October 2014 Nature Magazine article.

The Xi-Biden virus was curiously unleashed against the US and world while the Biden crime family was in the middle of cutting deals with the Chinese Communist Party.

Trump did what, you say?

All the while,

 

Trump also left Biden with a supply issue.... when Biden recovered the economy, supply was not there to match demand

 

He did it with the Obama-Biden-Xi flu? How does that work?

 

did what?

 

First off it is not a democratic policy to allow capitalists the freedom to buy up the USA with their govt. assisted wealth. It is a policy of the Democratic and Republican parties to be greedy, selfish, self-centered and
narcissistic. They can be bought easily by capitalists, industrialists, and globalists because that is their goal, wealth.

Both parties do it and both parties are to blame for the high inflation due to their collaboration to shut down society in 2020.

 

Obama-Biden launched this $3.7M gain-of-function project of which $600K found its way to Wuhan virology lab, the source of COVID. You can look it up on the usaspending.gov website. You won't find the nature magazine article that says the Obama-Biden regime shocked the world by claiming that they stopped funding dangerous research that they already funded.


https://www.nature.com/news/us-suspends-risky-disease-research-1.16192
The US government surprised many researchers on 17 October when it announced that it will temporarily stop funding new research that makes certain viruses more deadly or transmissible. The White House Office of Science and Technology Policy is also asking researchers who conduct such ‘gain-of-function’ experiments on influenza, severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS) and Middle East respiratory syndrome (MERS) to stop their work until a risk assessment is completed — leaving many unsure of how to proceed.

 

don't believe the fake news

some say Trump wanted the virus to spread and the reason Trump shutdown the economy is that he knew the economy was failing, and the only way for him to inject trillions into the mega corps was to use the virus crisis to do so, if that did not work, he would blame it on the virus, win\win either way as far as Trump was concerned

 

I disagree with the basic premise that this is a truth.

 

The Democratic Party when I was growing up was known as the big tent party. It was willing to include everyone. Not so today, the Democratic Party has its litmus tests, as do the Republican Party. Failure to pass their litmus tests place you in the not wanted column.


As for the working or middle class, you’re correct the Democratic Party has or is losing them. But it’s the white working /middle class voters they’re losing. It’s not across the board. The black and Hispanic middle class, working class are still loyal Democrats. Although republicans have made inroads into the black and Hispanic voting groups since the 2008 election. Republicans has increased their share of the black vote from 4% to 13% in 2022 and the Hispanic vote from 27% to 39%.


What’s also interesting is the change in party affiliation from Nov 2008, 27% Republican 37% Democratic, 33% independent to today, 27% Republican, 30% Democratic, 40% independent. Which indicates, at least to me, the exit of the working/middle class from the democratic party wasn’t an exodus to the GOP, but to becoming independents. Still that eliminates many what were loyal Democratic voters to tossup or swing voters instead. The question left is why those who deserted the Democratic Party, why hadn’t they become Republicans? Probably back to each major party’s litmus tests. They fail to pass either party’s litmus tests and their hard core political ideology turns them off.


In other words, there’s no room in either party for someone, as an example who may be pro-choice and pro-2nd Amendment at the same time or vice versa.

 

Trump may be an idiot, but the Deficit and Inflation didn't explode until Biden took office and enacted the far left policies. Any attempt of deflection won't work this time.

 

I think you may be drawing a whole range of inferences from a limited amount of data. My observation is that Democrats have become intolerant of those they consider infidels, AKA Republicans, and violently intolerant of apostates, AKA converts from Democrat to Republican and conservative minorities who they feel they own. Perhaps those who feel abandoned by the Democrat Party feel Independence is a safe haven. Just a thought.

 

Then perhaps you can explain to me why so many high profile democrats have made it a point to become filthy rich. Obama; Clinton; and Pelosi would be a good place to start.

 

Clearly the GOP is in transition, but, the popular vote rejection of the Kansas constitutional amendment to ban abortion caught the attention of folks who previously were not paying attention. I expect that the most common standard in Red States will be abortion on demand in the first trimester and various levels of limit after that, which is the standard of the rest of the world. Now the interesting thing, is that for most of history that has been seen as 'pro-choice' position.

I also found that here, and it is as you claim, but, look earlier in the article where the sort the Indies into leaners, with that, the GOP goes from -12 in 2008 to +1. Except for 1991 during the Gulf War 1, it's also their political high mark, it will be interesting to see if this is another high water mark followed by a retreat.

https://news.gallup.com/poll/467897/party-preferences-evenly-split-2022-shift-gop.aspx

 

No one is stating that it's incontrovertible truth, rather, that that it's a position with supporting evidence.

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Maybe. There’s been plenty of ups and downs for both major parties since 2008. But the long term trend has been the GOP remaining fairly steady around 27-28%, some ups higher and some down lower, but pretty much steady. The Democrats have been dropping. That’s been their trend since Reagan, a lot longer trend. From around 45% of the electorate with a couple of years which they hit 51% FDR until Reagan. Then 35% from Reagan until Recently where they now stand at 30%. Independents has risen from 30% in 2006 to 40% today and some month are above that 40%.


The thing is independents should be broken down into three groups, independents lean Republican, independents lean Democratic and true or pure independents with no leans. You have the base number above, but not the voting power if you throw in independents who lean towards one party or the other.