Trump and his family failed to report nearly $300,000-worth of gifts from foreign governments, House

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  1. Junkieturtle

    Junkieturtle Well-Known Member Donor

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    And nobody is going to begrudge Trump writing a book or charging speaking fees now that he's a private citizen either. That's got nothing to do with keeping foreign gifts while he was president.
     
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    And that point of view makes me physically ill. It is the mechanism that corrupt politicians do the work of the paymasters while in office and get paid hundreds of millions when they leave the office. The Clintons made hundreds of millions out of office through this method and the Obamas are doing the same. There was a time in America when this NEVER happened. Since people like you have been trained to believe this is not corruption at the very worst level and refuse to hold the evil doers responsible, it has become standard practice. Because of this very thing, the American people can never get a President that gives a damn about the will of the people. Instead we get corrupt scumbags that pass legislation that benefits the 0.0001% and who then make millions in payouts after they leave office.
     
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    Propaganda was absolutely necessary.
     
  4. Junkieturtle

    Junkieturtle Well-Known Member Donor

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    What you're describing is a lot harder to combat. People are interested in hearing from those who've held high positions, whether it's in government or the private sector, and they're willing to pay for it. It's just a fact of life. I'm completely fine with former politicians writing books and getting paid to give speeches just like I would be if we were talking about former CEOs or famous actors, musicians, etc, and that's true no matter what letter is next to the person's name.
     
  5. Junkieturtle

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    To help prop up your angelic narrative about Trump maybe. In reality, Trump had been showing us who he was for decades before he even stepped foot in the White House and that was the same person we got for four years. It's the same person still yapping about his failed election theft attempt.
     
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    And butchers like the Saudi regime have paid tens of millions of dollars to the Clintons. Perfectly legit amirite? Certainly not a payoff for toppling Libya and attempting to topple Syria. It is beyond sickening that overseas butchers can purchase more access and power over the America's foreign policy than the American electorate.

    https://theintercept.com/2016/08/25...es-donate-millions-to-the-clinton-foundation/
     
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    It's early days yet for this story. This poor old country mouse is content to wait for further developments.

    Regards, stay safe 'n well.
     
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    Point to a single post where you have ever criticized him...
     
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    Biden's corruption started before Trump became president.
     
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    You are talking about payments to the Clinton Foundation, and neither Bill nor Hillary take a salary. So no, you are not right.
     
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    After Yellen was forced to release Hunter's bank transactions that were red flagged the White House is now responding to the allegations. And it seems CNN has been authorized to talk about it but as expected they are not doing any investigations of their own they are just using the what about Trump.
     
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    Oh is this the latest "WE REALLY GOT HIM NOW!!!!!!!".

    $300,000 gift appraisals?

    Do you even think this is new and unique to Trump? Every President goes through this no well formulated process and I am sure Mr. Raskin could come up with similar claims against other Presidents.

    This from 2003

    An Embarrassment of Riches: Gifts to U.S. Presidents
    In this moment of heightened public confidence in government, the presidential gift process offers the potential for staggering embarrassment and diminished accountability. The current fragmented process for logging, valuing, and managing gifts to the president defies bureaucratic logic, and appears designed more to frustrate accountability than enhance it. One could not design a more unwieldy system if one started out to do so.

    If the volume of gifts to the president is any indication, Americans are a very generous people. Presidents and their First Ladies receive thousands of gifts each year, from large to small, from domestic to gifts from heads of state. Any gift not from a foreign official must be logged by the White House Gift Unit and managed by one of several domestic agencies, while gifts from foreign officials are managed by the State Department. Gifts are managed under the Foreign Gifts and Decorations Act of 1966, the Presidential Records Act of 1978, and subsequent amendments to both, while disclosure of gifts accepted by the president or First Lady must be disclosed on the Standard Form 278 created under the 1978 Ethics in Government Act and its subsequent amendments. Under the Code of Federal Regulations, these disclosures must identify the source and describe each gift, and estimate the value of any gift or gifts from the same source that aggregate to more than $260 in value...

    https://www.brookings.edu/testimonies/an-embarrassment-of-riches-gifts-to-u-s-presidents/
     
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    Of course not...lol.

    Biden could shoot someone on 5th avenue and you would say he didn't do it.
     
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    And the same scumbags are now complaining about political gifts, as though they themselves aren't grifters! LMAO. You can't make it up, it's absolutely hilarious.
     
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    One more incident from Trump abusing the office. Republicans only care about political power, forget about the law, it's ok if they do it.
     
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    Incorrect, you are projecting.
     
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    That’s also dem projection. The dem corruption is blatant and without punishment. Truly unfortunate.
     
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    There is plenty of corruption on both sides, but Trump has been blatant, this is just another example, he doesn't even try to hide his transgressions.
     
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    And now the records are coming out showing the Bidens have done the very same thing. In truth, as Madison noted centuries ago, all men holding power ought to be mistrusted.
     
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    That’s genuinely incorrect, your interpretation isn’t based on reason. It’s based on propaganda About the alleged crimes that no one can seem to actually articulate in a reasonable, fair, objective manner.
     
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    No thanks. Support your own contention
     
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    It did? What corruption was that?
     
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    So the same Orange Stain supporters who claimed the Orange Stain was somehow “different” and “not a politician “ and not from the “swamp” are defending his accepting foreign bribes or pocketing gifts because DEMOCRATS DID IT TOO ?

    That’s great, because implicit in that defense is the fact that the Orange Stain is no different from any other slimy politician.

    Which also raises the possibility that he’s worse.

    Thank you for admitting that , Trump sycophants!
     
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    Hunter biden was not a member of government.

    A small detail that seems to be lost on republicans.
     
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    Not okay for anyone to do it and Joe Biden didn't do it but Trump did and you can't handle the truth
     
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