Nashville school shooting: 6 killed including 3 students, shooter dead

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  1. TOG 6

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    Reality:
    You hate freedom.
     
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    There is a real simple solution to that....

    Pass gun control laws that they know WILL work.
    But they can't piss off their NRA masters, so....
     
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    Such as...?
     
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    Yes, these sexually confused youngsters become deranged with so many adults urging them on. I guess social media is a factor.

    They are saying today that the parents of the girl are strongly religious and very much against her gay and LGBT games. So she is rebelling. Now they have text messages sent to her best friend.

    What a shame. Tucker last night (and last Thursday) pointed out an NPR show which encouraged the LGBT folks to become armed and take revenge. It's a mess. Big meeting in DC on April 1 for the armed LGBT movement.
     
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    https://ohiocapitaljournal.com/2022...-mass-shootings-heres-what-the-data-tells-us/

    In the years after the assault weapons ban went into effect, the number of deaths from mass shootings fell, and the increase in the annual number of incidents slowed down. Even including 1999’s Columbine High School massacre – the deadliest mass shooting during the period of the ban – the 1994 to 2004 period saw lower average annual rates of both mass shootings and deaths resulting from such incidents than before the ban’s inception.

    From 2004 onward:
    The data shows an almost immediate – and steep – rise in mass shooting deaths in the years after the assault weapons ban expired in 2004.

    Breaking the data into absolute numbers, between 2004 and 2017 – the last year of our analysis – the average number of yearly deaths attributed to mass shootings was 25, compared with 5.3 during the 10-year tenure of the ban and 7.2 in the years leading up to the prohibition on assault weapons.
     
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    Oh contrare....mental illness is the number one killer of children in the U.S. Trans IS a mental illness that contradicts biology. Anyone that would shoot a child IS mentally ill regardless of how they identify. Guns don't kill people on their own. They are not like landmines. It takes an active person behind them to execute the mission.
     
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    They may have been sane but they were either mentally ill or demon possesed. I would suggest both. Of course if you are afraid to define evil, I guess you would be in opposition to that premise.
     
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    This is a post hoc fallacy - correlation does not prove causation.

    Beyond that:
    The 1994 AWB could not have had any effect on such shootings because it did nothing to reduce availability of 'assault weapons':
    - No weapons were confiscated
    - Manufacturers legally created and sold functionally identical firearms (see pic)

    Thus.. not only did it not work, we know it did not work.
    Why would we pass a law we know does not work?

    Try again?



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    It is a growing army of those taught to see themselves as victims. Let's give them all Mao suits and let the festivities begin!
     
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    Actually, the number of shootings were going down before the assault weapons ban and continued to go down until 2014. If you want to talk specifically about mass shootings, then why aren't you interested in the roll that the media plays? If you are truly interested in eliminating mass shootings, then why not look at all the variables instead of blinding yourself to other possibilities? Why not look at the reason these idiots feel the need to do this in the first place?
     
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    Because they aren't really interested in cause and effect. They want to control "you" by taking guns away and initiating gun bans. They want to ban future sales of assault style weapons but first they're coming after the ones you own. They know the criminal element of society isn't about to surrender their guns. They know they can't stop mass gun shootings. If these people want more guns, to the black market they will go. They don't care because they offer NO practical solutions as how to stop the carnage but banning guns. Let me tell you, only the criminals will be left with guns after they're done with their unconstitutional gun bans and phony ass gun control meant to better society.

    Rep. Cawthorn: Yes, Leftists Want to Take Your Guns (dailysignal.com)
     
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    https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u....019/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-8.xls
    Firearms are the number one murder weapon by far.
    Humans commit murder, not the weapon of choice.
    Firearms make humans much more efficient at killing.
    Additionally, weapons, particularly firearms, make a person feel more powerful. Some people need that, as evidenced by some of the posts of this thread.
    I usually try to stay away from assumptions, but I now make the assumption that those who are vehemently against stricter gun control are trying to hang on to the power and control a firearm gives them, or they are scared of the consequences of not having one.
    To not want to address a problem of too many gun deaths seems a little insane.
    There you are. You wanted to keep making assumptions about me, so you must not mind someone else making them about you.
     
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    And thus, the constitutional protection for our right to own and use them.
    Hmmm.
    The subject of firearms makes you think about my John Thomas.
    This sounds like your issue, not mine.
    Unsupportable nonsense.
    423,000,000 firearms in the US, perhaps more.
    How many gun-related deaths do you think there -should- be?
    How is that number sound?
     
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    I discussed it. Post #311 above.
    I look forward to your counter.

    Until we address a way to find out why those who resort to extreme violence kill, we won't solve the problem. We need to get to the root of the problem and stop kicking the can down the road, stop playing the inane blame games.

    We, need to find common ground and seek legitimate ways to address the cause of violent behavior so that those with it might be helped. For those that can't be helped or won't seek or accept help, we need to bring back insane asylums for the criminally ill /mental hospitals, and stop blaming inanimate objects, guns. as the root cause for mass shootings/domestic violence/gang behavior.

    Excessive unconstitutional gun bans and mindless gun control measures, are just Band-Aid solutions. How do they help curb violence, stop the threat by those who possess severe mental issues? The violent criminal element of society will remain and continue to kill. Violent, hopelessly twisted people will always find a way to get guns or use ways to kill. Stop blaming the guns without doing something about the sick people who are using them to kill.
     
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    Guns make America safer.

    Hale just demonstrated that.
     
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    You defend a system that allows the mentally ill to get all the guns they want.
     
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    Question for those on the left who want to eliminate gun ownership......why is it the left that strongly avoids prosecution of gun law violations and enforcing laws that prohibit such?? Is it a case of protecting the rights of criminals over law abiding citizens? Isn't that what outlawing guns would do?? Outlaws would still have guns!
     
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    If you're going to dig a hole, here's a bigger shovel for you.

    Stop lying.
     
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    Don't for one single minute think the gun banners want to address the root causes for helping the violent criminal element of society. How many more have to be murdered before people realize Joe Biden's ban gun comments do not address the real issues.
     
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    No guns, no mass shootings.

    Do you agree with this?
     
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    It's more telling that you think that gun bans will stop mass shootings.
    What does that have to do with your lying about what I think? IF you really want to KNOW what I think, and that seems highly doubtful, you'd read all my posts on this thread and apologize for the lie you told above.
     
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    Guns proliferation is a scourge.

    How many more mass shootings do we need to have before the pro 2A people understand that the current system allows the crazies to kill an incredible amount of innocent people?
     
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    if there are no guns there will be no shootings < valid reasoning.
    There will always be guns < invalidates the premise
     
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    Don't ask me inane questions. You're not interested in what I think. IF you were, you'd stop cherry-picking my posts to promote your own agenda.
     
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    Re:
    Hmmmm, A big meeting of armed and angry LGBTers on April Fool's Day ......What could go wrong?

    Re:

    Because of NPR's infamous anti 2A bias, I'm surprised that NPR would recommend that anyone become armed.


    Thanks for the update,
     
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