Durham finds DOJ, FBI 'failed to uphold' mission of 'strict fidelity to the law' in Trump-Russia pro

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  1. Nemesis

    Nemesis Well-Known Member

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    Durham couldn't convict Danchenko of lying. Why if it's so "clear"?
     
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    Isn't it amazing what they think Durham found, but didn't find?
     
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    Where is that in the Durham Flop?
     
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    Vindictive hyper-partisans had their hopes for retaliation dashed.

    Durham's failure is in striking contrast to Robert Mueller's success. Also a Republican appointed Special Counsel by the Trump Justice Department, he put several criminals in jail.

     
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    And here I thought he'd find skads of wrongdoing in the "oranges" of the Russian investigation and all sorts eeeeeevil libruls would be arrested. The DURHAM FLOP was just that.
     
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    Republican Mueller must feel vindicated - although his integrity would prevent him from gloating.
     
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    Another wall of text that ignored what the report really said
     
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    TRUE DAT

    Former Trump-Russia special counsel Robert Mueller told lawmakers Wednesday he could not exonerate President Donald Trump of obstruction of justice and that the president’s claims that he had done so in his report are not correct.

    “The president was not exculpated for the acts that he allegedly committed,”

    https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/mueller-i-did-not-clear-trump-of-obstruction-of-justice

    Robert Mueller breaks his silence and condemns Trump for commuting Roger Stone's sentence

    “The investigation did, however, establish that the Russian government perceived it would benefit from a Trump presidency and worked to secure that outcome. [And] that the campaign expected it would benefit electorally from information stolen and released through Russian efforts.”

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news... Robert,commute Roger Stone's prison sentence.
     
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    When "Sloppy" Steve says Durham found nothing, he found nothing. READ IT! It's a flop!
     
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    No one accused Trump of being a spy, we know he’s too stupid for that. He was just a useful idiot for Putin, and that is one of the many things about Trump that hurt this country.
     
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    The hoax creation is false AND unproven.
    Attempting to remove a president from office is false AND unproven.

    I guess you don’t have a question. You do have a history of making false statements e.g. repeatedly posting that Clinton plead to a crime. This is more of the same.
     
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    Because the whole point of the 4 yr investigation and Millions of $$$ was to get the criminals.
     
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    The purpose was to determine how an investigation into a Presidential candidate was begun. Only later when they discovered possible crimes did it become a criminal investigation.

    Durham spent $6M Mueller spent $32M and found no Russia Collusion crimes. So when you first complain about the Mueller investigation you might have somwthing. Until then....

    Are you REALLY OK with what happened between a political campaign and our highest officials in our law enforcement to create a hoax to first make sure another candidate was defeated and then when that failed to get a duly elected President removed from office? Just answer me that simple question.
     
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    It is fully document and indisputable. And you have yet to refute the cites provided about Bill Clinton copping a plea to multiple felonies as he left office having his license to practice law. So stop with your fallacious statements.
     
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    It is an opinion and not proven in a court of law. In fact, what is documented in Durham's report is that there are no crimes that can be prosecuted with the results of his "investigation" (i.e. "witch-hunt" ). Much to the disappointment of the MAGA crowd.

    As for Clinton, you have yet to produce anything in the public record that Clinton pled to a crime. So stop with your fallacious statements.
    Just like the fallacious statements you are making about the Durham report.
     
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    Trump's hoax in which he crapped on American democracy, denied the will of the People, and incited his goons to attack outnumbered police to prevent the certification of the elected President was thoroughly insipid. He persists in that lie.

    The previous Republican Special Counsel appointed by the Trump administration, Robert Mueller, had already investigated whether Putin's interfering in the 2016 U.S. presidential election to help Trump and hurt Clinton had been coordinated. He could not prove it, either.

    Folks like Trump adviser Steve Bannon had been very suspicious:

     
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    The hysterical "Lock her up!! Lock her up!" fatwa ran up against the American justice system, and now the Durham stunt has fizzled.

    The weird worshipers have not been as infuriated since their vaunted "CyberNinja" caper ended up uncovering more votes for the President, or the collapse of their fake accusation that "Whispering Ray" influenced all those weak minds on January 6.

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    Cite? Agreeing to relinquish your license isn't a criminal proceeding. That's just a falsehood. Maybe you don't understand that.
     
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    Mueller recouped millions with multiple successful prosecutions. The Durham Flop? One guy got probation, 2 were acquitted and Durham recouped no money.

    FAILURE.
     
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    More of the same indeed. "Uh, Clinton gave up his law license as part of a plea!" Lawyer disciplinary proceedings aren't "criminal" proceedings. That's like saying you got a parking ticket in small claims court.
     
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    It is exactly what happened as the report fully documents. Durham had nothing to with "stolen election" or Jan 6 geez you don't even know what it's about while you declare it false. And BTW the Mueller report found no evidence of Russian collusion.
     
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    Quote it! And please read to Mueller report instead of making up what it says.
     
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    Durham's inability to contrive any evidence of criminality beyond one confession to a minor transgression is understandably upsetting for Trump worshipers wee wee'd up by another of Trump's fake claims.
    The fact is that Durham couldn't even come up with recommendations to make his $6 million+ waste of taxpayer money less obvious.
    Consider the argument that rapidly began circulating on Twitter that Durham conclusively stated that former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton approved a plan for her 2016 campaign to “vilify Donald Trump by stirring up a scandal claiming interference by the Russian security services.”

    ... the relevant section of the report actually says the claim is based on Russian intelligence analysis that U.S. intelligence agencies obtained in 2016. At no point was the claim ever confirmed, something even Trump’s director of national intelligence John Ratcliffe admitted in a letter to the Senate after declassifying the existence of the intelligence. Nor does Durham ever state it as a gospel truth.

    This is par for the course for the report overall, which functions as an extended version of Durham’s court filings in which he would spin a narrative that sounded shady but lacked any conclusive evidence of wrongdoing.

    Despite his scolding tone, there’s little advice for DOJ to shape up beyond generic admonishments to adhere to its mission statement. That’s in part because many of the missteps he raises have already been dealt with over the years, as the FBI said in a statement Monday. All of the substantiated claims that he makes were likewise previously acknowledged in a 2019 report from the department’s inspector general that found that despite some serious concerning mistakes, the Russia investigation was justified.

    [https://www.bing.com/news/search?q=...&qpvt=durham+report+recommendations&FORM=EWRE]

     
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    An unwarranted and gentle chiding is what the Durham Flop gave us. The righties are disgruntled and angry about this obvious fact.
     

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