Florida Teen Trans-care Ban Off The Table

It's elementary school age kids who are demanding all these sex changes and not their parents? When I was 10 years old back in 1962 believe me we got along fine living with the sex we were born with.

 

Where in the country are 10 year olds getting surgery on their genitals? You are making **** up.

 

Children lack the ability to pay as well as the ability consider long term consequences.

You are far from correct; medical professionals don't know what they are doing. Thats why they practice medicine and only give opinions.

Do you agree with telling children they were born defective and require drugs and surgery to "fix"?

 

The damage from puberty blockers can be irreversible. We need a higher court to review this judge's claim.

https://thepostmillennial.com › new-zealand-recognizes-puberty-blockers-are-harmful-irreversible
New Zealand recognizes puberty blockers can be harmful, irreversible ...

'New Zealand recognizes puberty blockers can be harmful, irreversible. ... Earlier this year in the United States the Food and Drug Administration added a warning that Puberty Blockers could cause pseudotumor cerebri, or increased fluid around the brain, ... and people are seeing the damage this lie will do to children and their future. Thank ...'

 

I believe there are already some older threads about this...
Socialised Medicine: Will Americans be forced to pay for sex-change operations? (Lots of examples in that thread, scroll further down past the first few posts)
It's official: Free sex change operations for poor people

 

I prefer you look it up yourself. Or you can look up the definition of 'mutilate'. Or do whatever makes you happy. I am not here to educate those who wont educate themselves.

 

So can the damage of NOT taking puberty blockers when they are necessary. It's almost like we should leave it up to the doctors instead of the Nanny State mandating the same solution for everyone.

 

You mean "necessary".
"Necessary" is a word you have invented, as for how it applies to this situation.

I know, transgender treatment is "necessary" for those who want to swap genders, and abortion is "necessary" for women who are pregnant but don't want a baby.

 

No. It existed before I was even born. How can you claim that you never even heard about the word until I used it?

 

Pederasty and slavery existed during the Roman Empire. That's not a good argument.

(And plus they didn't even have all this transgender treatment back then! puberty blockers and sex change genital surgeries. It just proves transgenders don't need chemicals to be "transgender", doesn't it?)

 

I don't share your assumption that anyone who understands the concept of "necessary" is a pederast or supports slavery. Nor can you defend that position.

 

Question: If a 13 year old becomes convinced they want to be castrated, and some doctor is willing to do it, should we let him?
Or is he not old enough yet to make that decision?


Texas dad fears ex-wife plans to 'chemically castrate' 9-year-old son (nypost.com) January 6, 2023

 

Why do you think that the government knows better than the patient, the parents, and multiple medical professionals working directly with the patient? Meanwhile, 13 year olds are not being castrated in the US.

 

Depending on what search engine you use you will get different information. Agenda biased with tech companies is real.

 

No, Big Pharma and Big Med get regulated by our Elected Legislatures, just like everyone else, and their claims get met with demands for evidence, just like everyone else.

'There is a 14% increase in suicide rates among young people by 2020 in states that have a provision allowing minors to access care without parental consent relative to states that do not. Easier access to puberty blockers and cross-sex hormones by minors actually exacerbated suicide rates.'

'Importantly, we do not observe any difference between these groups of states in the suicide rates among young adults who would be unaffected by policies that facilitate cross-sex drugs for minors. Suicide rates accelerate only among young people who could be affected by policies easing access to these drugs. The relative increase in suicide rates only occurs after cross-sex treatments are introduced, and the trajectory of the increase matches the prevalence of these interventions.'

'Given these elevated suicide risks, state and federal governments should reverse the push to make puberty blockers and cross-sex hormones more widely and readily available to minors. We find that facilitating access to these treatments without parental consent is particularly dangerous. This suggests that lawmakers should instead adopt a parental bill of rights to ensure that parents are informed and involved in these critical decisions about their own children.'

'Despite what left-leaning activists may tell us, science does not demonstrate that puberty blockers and cross-sex hormones are necessary to prevent suicides. In fact, if anything, it demonstrates the opposite.'

https://www.heritage.org/gender/com...-kids-actually-prevent-suicide-heres-what-the

 

I personally think a lot of these young persons are not really fully aware of what they are getting into.
And many of them are unwilling (or sometimes unable) to admit they were wrong after it is too late. Some of them are unable to see that they were wrong, so they just suffer without recognizing that the reason they are now suffering is due to the decision that they made.

After they transition, a lot people in their same age group avoid them because they view that person as a freak, and it becomes very difficult to find other people who want to date them. Not to mention that they are trying to be something they are not, something they can never truly fully be, so there is a constant identity crisis.

You'll also find that most of these persons decided to transition because they were unhappy and felt something in their life didn't feel right, but they weren't sure what it was. Most of these persons had few social connections amongst the age group to begin with. You will be very hard pressed to find any case of a teen who was very popular at school and had lots of friends but then decided they wanted to change their gender.

There is anecdotal evidence that in some areas, teen girls who might have gone into the "goth" subculture group in an earlier decade are now jumping aboard the trans fad, that entire social groups are popping up with 14 and 15 year old girls choosing to go trans or "non-binary" because all their friend group is doing it.

 

Which amounts to how many?

Seriously, this is politics, period. The right, in this case, are simply trying to virtue signal to the base over something that affects a miniscule number of people. You'd think transgenderism was some brand new boogeyman.

I thought conservatives favored small government, but that only seems to be the case when it's something they approve of. Let the families handle this type of issue, as they've been doing for decades.

 

Bee ess from you, as usual. No one is preying on the minds of minor children, especially not medical care providers.

This is politics, plain and simple. It's not the business of any government. See #42.

 

About 2 to 3% of teens are identifying as transgender now.

About 5% of young adults in U.S. are transgender or nonbinary | Pew Research Center
New Federal Survey Shows 2% of U.S. High School Students Identify As Transgender (2019)

 

Bee ess from you, as usual. No one is preying on the minds of minor children, especially not medical care providers.

This is politics, plain and simple. It's not the business of any government.

 

You didn't get the point. The blockers have been used for decades because they have a legit medical use which has nothing to do with trans issues.

 

Maybe you did, but you don't speak for everyone. Just because you've never known a transgender person doesn't mean they didn't exist in 1962 or any other year.

 

Parents pay for these medications, not the government. There are programs that help, also not the government. You failed utterly, as usual, to prove your point.

 

See #48.

 

So you are simply accepting that the three children in the lawsuit will “suffer irreparable harm” if they cannot begin puberty blockers.

And who are they?

Do you think that it would a different story if the number was NOT "vanishingly small?" And what do you even mean by "vanishingly small?" What percentage of teens do you think it is?

What if the "care they need" just doesn't include pumping these kids full of puberty blockers and cross sex hormones, chopping off penises and carving off breasts? You seem to be under the impression that "care" cannot be anything else other than these things, and so if these things are banned, this means that care is not being provided.