Hitler's Jew-hatred & Holocaust Denial

If you believed that, you wouldn't be in a thread about it.

 

Says who? I can be in any thread I want. You are not the boss of me.

 

Not sure what your on about here Nazis aren't by any stretch of the imagination conservative.

 

They were, by every stretch of the imagination, socially conservative.

 

Lol, "Hurt me!", cried the masochist. "No!" says the sadist.

 

the red cross and eisenhower had stock piles of food, any soldier trying to give the prisoners food were to be shot, the red cross was denied access, so neither could they give them food.
That is why they starved, that is willful, that is mass murder.
At least in the eyes of the rest of the world, obviously you disagree.



A US Soldier: Hunger made German women more ‘available,’ but despite this, rape was prevalent and often accompanied by additional violence. In particular I remember an eighteen-year old woman who had the side of her face smashed with a rifle butt and was then raped by two GIs. Even the French complained that the rapes, looting and drunken destructiveness on the part of our troops was excessive. [Brech, Martin.“In ‘Eisenhower’s Death Camps’: Part I—A U.S. Prison Guard’s Story.” The Journal of Historical Review 10, no.2 (Summer 1990). Page 165.]

Two German Soldiers (combined into 1 voice over): (1) t’s incomprehensible to me how we could stand for many, many days without sitting, without lying down, just standing there, totally soaked. During the day we marched around, huddled together to try to warm each other a bit. (2) The latrines were just logs flung over ditches next to the barbed wire fences. To sleep, all we could do was to dig out a hole in the ground with our hands, then cling together in the hole. . . . Because of illness, the men had to defecate on the ground. Soon, many of us were too weak to take off our trousers first. So our clothing was infected, and so was the mud where we had to walk and sit and lie down. There was no water at all at first, except the rain. . . . More than half the days we had no food at all. On the rest, we got a little K ration. I could see from the package that they were giving us one tenth of the rations that they issued to their own men. . . . I complained to the American camp commander that he was breaking the Geneva Convention, but he just said, “Forget the Convention. You haven’t any rights.” Within a few days, some of the men who had gone healthy into the camps were dead. I saw our men dragging many dead bodies to the gate of the camp, where they were thrown loose on top of each other onto trucks, which took them away. [Pechel, Peter, Dennis Showalter and Johannes Steinhoff.Voices From the Third Reich—
An Oral History. Washington, D.C.: Regnery Gateway, 1989. Page 491] [Bacque, James. Other Losses—An Investigation into the Mass deaths of German Prisoners at the Hands of the French and Americans after World War II. Toronto: Stoddart Publishing Co., 1989. Page 38]

The Purge


Leni Riefenstahl: Neither my husband nor my mother nor any of my three assistants had ever joined the Nazi Party, nor had any of us been politically active. No `charges had ever been filed against us, yet we were at the mercy of the [Allies] and had no legal protection of any kind. [Horstmann, Lali.We Chose to Stay. Boston: Houghton Mifflin, 1954. Page 327]

A German Prisoner: The purpose of these interrogations is not to worm out of the people what they knew—which would be uninteresting anyway—but to extort from them special statements. The methods resorted to are extremely primitive; people are beaten up until they confess to having been members of the Nazi Party. . . . The authorities simply assume that, basically, everybody has belonged to the Party. Many people die during and after these interrogations, while others, who admit at once their party membership, are treated more leniently. [Von Lehndorff, Hans Graf. Token of a Covenant—Diary of an East Prussian Surgeon, 1945–47. Chicago: Henry Regnery Co., 1964. Page 127]

Both officers who took our testimony were former German Jews. [One] kicked me in the back and the other hit me. . . . [T]he terrible thing was, the German men had to watch. That was a horrible, horrible experience. . . . That must have been terrible for them. When I went outside, several of them stood there with tears running down their cheeks. What could they have done? They could do nothing. [Owings, Alison. Frauen—German Women recall the Third Reich.New Brunswick, N.J.: Rutgers University Press, 1994. Pages 335-336]

General George Patton: Evidently the virus started by Morgenthau of a Semitic revenge against all Germans is still working . . . I can’t see how Americans can sink so low. [Martin Blumenson, The Patton Papers—1940–1945 (New York: Houghton Mifflin Co., 1972)]

 

NEVER FORGET!

 

Several problems here. 1st no one is condemning all Germans. There were several heroic Germans who died serving in the anti Nazi resistance in Germany including Dietrich Bonhoeffer, Lutheran pastor.

Like hell they were pro abortion and cheerfully killed anyone with birth defects of almost any sort. Note being Jewish gypsy or homosexual was automatically a birth defect.

 

No, it's because Farrakhan is perceived as a member of an oppressed community - twice so, as he's black and Muslim. Parts of the left would never criticize a member of either of those communities, due to both belief that everything they do is the western man's fault, and to fear of being labeled by their own as traitors.

The right is also circling the wagons around their own, by the way. It's human nature.

From parts of the left, yes. But there's also the moderate left, not inclined to make excuses for extremists.

You seem to use the term "Islamists" instead of "Muslims" in the same way antisemites (mostly those on the left) use the term "Zionists" instead of "Jews". It's a way to avoid being called racist or bigot. You also seem to think that all Islamists (or is it Muslims?) think and act as one, which is thankfully very far from the truth.

Neither Muslims nor Islamists are the largest antisemitic organization, as you claim. First, they are not an organization. Second, not all are antisemitic, even among Salafis. Third, and at last on topic, it's true that during WWII Bosnian and some Middle Eastern Muslims sided with Hitler, but it's also true that Albanian, French, and North African Muslims helped save Jews.

 

It doesn't matter to you because you're not at the receiving end. Holocaust denial, revisionism, and distortion, are basically a way to say that Jews collectively and knowingly lie about their own history for material gain. That's not ancient history, it's an attempt at manipulating the public opinion against Jews, with painful consequences in the now and here.

 

You are the believer in a reality that doesn't exist and never has existed or ever will.

 

Baloney. It is ancient history. Quibbling over unimportant details is silly. It is only being used to smear political opponents.

If you are so concerned about such unimportant details then the bigger and more relevant issues must be too much.

 

So if Hitler had been a black islamist then his hatred of Jews would be justified? LOL! Make up your mind.

 

My family, most of which survived the Holocaust, is not ancient history. Being told by total strangers that my family knowingly lied to the world as part of a worldwide Jewish conspiracy is not an unimportant detail. Fighting against conspiracy theories demonizing and dehumanizing my family, my people, is not "smearing political opponents".

Why do you belittle such vile attempts to hurt Jews? Attempts that are taking place here, now, not in ancient history.

 

Read my post again. Or ignore me, whatever suits you best.

 

The only "gas chambers" in any of the German run camps were for defumigating old clothes, blankets etc.
That's it.
Unless one is gullible enough to think that only the "evil" Germans had to deal with typhus, the truth is that every major country used the same process to attempt to control disease bearing lice.

The falsehoods you have chosen to believe are primarily Hollywood - Holocaust Industry propaganda ploys that are no different than the earlier frauds featuring "human skin pocketbooks", "human fat soap", "human skin lampshades" and shrunken heads to name a few deliberate hoaxes that "Holocaust deniers" refused to believe.

The homicidal gas, electrocution(1) and steam chambers are no different than the other deliberate and profitable hoaxes cooked up by the fraudulent Holocaust Industry(2), (3) and exploited by Hollywood's top movie moguls.

Please think. Norman Finkelstein wrote about the corrupt, greedy and dishonest Holocaust Industry.
If such a wealthy, international organization that has deliberately cheated Holocaust survivors, today's German people and countless industries around the world before, why believe everything they say now?
Do you normally believe proven liars?

Why would anyone believe myths about homicidal gas, electrocution and steam chambers, "6 million Jews murdered" and a genocidal German agenda when the same Holocaust Industry has such a blatant history of profitable lying about earlier "human skin" artifacts, shrunken heads, "human fat" soap?

Finally, if millions were murdered in homicidal gas chambers, there would be hundreds of them throughout German occupied territory but where they all?
There's no mention of homicidal gas chambers in any of the German radio transmissions, there are no blueprints, work orders, maintenance requests or other records.
Where are they all and why its there no record of them?

Thanks,





(1). "Auschwitz Electrical Conveyor belt of Death"
https://disjecta.wordpress.com/2018/01/26/auschwitz-electrical-conveyor-belt-of-death/

EXCERPT "It’s a little known fact that running alongside the scientifically implausible gas chambers at Auschwitz ran the electrified conveyor belts of death. These industrialised slaughter belts, we can assume took the passive cargo directly from the “cattle cars” and electrocuted the hapless victims without struggle then disposed of the evidence in Nazi furnaces. One can only guess at the “special devices” for killing children. Somehow visions of Willy Wonka’s Chocolate/extermination factory spring to mind."CONTINUED


(2). "17 CHARGED IN $42 MILLION HOLOCAUST FRAUD CASE"
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/40093058/...ed-million-holocaust-fraud-case/#.XU62pSMwi_U

EXCERPT "Federal prosecutors said Tuesday they have broken up a long-running scam in which people falsely claimed to be victims of the Nazi persecution so they could get money out of a fund that pays Holocaust reparations."CONTINUED


(3). "HOLOCAUST CLAIMS CONFERENCE FRAUD LIKELY ‘MUCH HIGHER’ THAN $57 MILLION"
http://www.jpost.com/Diaspora/Holoc...aud-likely-much-higher-than-57-million-408298

EXCERPT "For over a decade, a criminal ring within the organization embezzled tens of millions of dollars through false restitution claims.”CONTINUED

 

Nobody here is stupid enough to call your family liars. What posters have done is show alot of cases of fraud.

Are you willing to admit that the WJE (white Jewish European), you may know them as Ashkenazi, are over represented in the financial sector?

Most WJE journalists and bloggers openly admit that this field [aswell as Hollywood/media] have a disproportionate number of WJE is positions of power .

Once we accept this open secret and acknowledge the contemporary examples of massive fraud cases brought against individuals Like Bernie Madoff, Phillip green, bankman and the way these famous examples conduct their business then we can imagine the same will be happening with insurance claims (Holocaust payments).

a huge scandal going on here and ppl making billions is most likely imho. I'm shocked that anyone would think otherwise when we all know what billionaires ARE REALLY LIKE.

 

Scarcely that would be your thing.

 

nah it's yours

 

You believe Nazis didn't kill many Jews, hell you still believe the country is over run with white supremacists.

 

Gary, do you always make things up about ppl and gossip about them all the time?

How about discussing the topic rather that the ppl posting? Good idea or nah?

 

We have the chemical evidence for gas chambers. We have many, many, many eyewitness accounts. We have the physical buildings themselves. "Somewhere someone at some point in time said something about the Holocaust that wasn't true, therefore the gas chambers didn't exist" is not a rational argument. I've debunked dozens of claims from denialist sources. Does that mean you should stop believing the links that you are posting? I encourage you to engage in some critical thinking instead of just copy/pasting the same denialist links over and over and over again.

Have you ever stopped and asked yourself why a gas chamber door meant only for delousing would be designed to be unable to be opened from the inside (hint: delousing chambers have no reason to only open for the outside), have a peephole (hint: you can't actually see lice dying through a peephole) and have metal caging on the inside of the door protecting the peephole (hint: lice can't break or pry off peepholes). These questions are what have lead critically thinking people to recognize the reality of the Holocaust. Denalists have no answers.

 

Of course the grossly exaggerated and immensely profitable Holocaust narrative is pure anti German bigotry that the insatiable Holocaust Industry relentlessly exploits to litter the planet with grisly Holocaust theme parks.

In order to extract more and more cash from today's Germans who were not even alive during the war, the Holocaust Industry and its complicit Western MSM continue to demonize all Germans of that era as either being guilty of or complicit in what some people have called "the greatest tragedy in history".
The implication is that the Germans were somehow more cruel and brutal than other nationalities when in fact, they behaved no worse than any other army and better than many.

Regrettably, Hollywood and the complicit Holocaust Industry have created an image of the German soldier as a robotic, cruel and brutal blockhead when, in fact they were at least as disciplined as any army and were regarded as superior fighting force(1).
Since before the end of the war Hollywood's movie moguls and the Holocaust Industry resorted to some of the most grotesque frauds imaginable to make the Germans look like demented and sadistic beasts who used human skin for household artifacts, made soap from the fat of dead Jews, decapitated inmates and shrank their heads. Nothing was too grotesque, sadistic or bizarre to blame on the "evil Germans" and dupe a gullible populace.

The truth is that camp personnel were strictly disciplined for abusing inmates (2), just as German soldiers were prohibited abusing civilians (3) but ever since staged(4) Holocaust atrocity propaganda and relentless Holocaust themed entertainment stories about demonic Germans dominate the airwaves, innumerable gullible individuals have swallowed the fraudulent Holocaust narrative hook, line and sinker.

Finally, I lived, studied and worked in what was then W. Germany about 50 years ago where I had the opportunity to know several German WW 2 Veterans, Holocaust survivors, and everyday civilians who survived the war.
After better understanding the complex adversities of post WW 1 Germany, I feel that it is as arrogant as it is ignorant to condemn the German people for the choices they made without understanding the threats they faced from within and without and circumstances they endured under the draconian Treaty of Versailles, subsequent Starvation Blockade (5)
and other abuses inflicted on Germany by the Allies after WW 1.

Thanks,

(1). “Their Wehrmacht Was Better Than Our Army”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/arch...ur-army/0b2cfe73-68f4-4bc3-a62d-7626f6382dbd/

EXCERPT ”On a man for man basis, German ground soldiers consistently inflicted casualties at about a 50 percent higher rate than they incurred from the opposing British and American troops under all circumstances (emphasis in original). This was true when they were attacking and when they were defending, when they had a local numerical superiority and when, as was usually the case, they were outnumbered, when they had air superiority and when they did not, when they won and when they lost." CONTINUED


(2) "THE FACT SPIELBERG SUPPRESSED IN SCHINDLER'S LIST: The Commandant of Krakau-Plaszow (Amon Goeth) Was Arrested by the SS for Brutality against Inmates"
https://www.revisionisthistory.org/revisionist6.html

EXCERPT "This vital, exculpatory information has been censored by Spielberg in order to maintain his propaganda depiction of the German military in the worst possible light.

The fact that the SS, under orders from Heinrich Himmler, attempted to operate the concentration camps (KZ) in a humane manner, in part by prosecuting, jailing and even executing brutal Nazi concentration camp personnel, has been nearly completely suppressed in much of the discussion of the history of World War Two.

One of the key officers who was instrumental in Himmler's campaign to attempt to ensure the human rights of KZ inmates, was the heroic and incorruptible SS Judge Konrad Morgen."CONTINUED


(3). “Punishment of Germans, by Third Reich authorities, for mistreatment of Jews (1939-1945)”
https://robertfaurisson.blogspot.com/2002/06/punishment-of-germans-by-third-reich.html

EXCERPT “The German army severely punished its own soldiers for crimes committed against the civilian population, including Jews.

Examples are given, such as a case in the spring of 1944 occurring when a German anti-aircraft battery on its way to Budapest was held over and the soldiers stayed in a house belonging to Jews. Permission was granted to the men by the commander of the battery, a young sub-lieutenant, to confiscate various items from the house, including jewellery and radio sets. A Jewish woman who wanted to report this crime was killed. The sub-lieutenant was sentenced to death and executed for this crime, and several NCOs and service personnel received long prison terms.” CONTINUED


(4). “The Director of the Holocau$t - Khazar Expatriate Billy Wilder”
https://archive.org/details/TheDirectorOfTheHolocaut-KhazarExpatriateBillyWilder

EXCERPT “Almost all the films you've ever seen of the Holocaust were staged. Using Allied propaganda as a rough script, directors from Hollywood were shipped to Germany and Poland to direct propaganda films for post-war use. One of the most notable of these was Billy Wilder, director of meny very well known films, such as "Some Like It Hot" with Marilyn Monroe." CONTINUED


(5). "The Starving of Germany in 1919"
https://beyondthirtynine.com/the-starving-of-germany-in-1919/

EXCERPT "The reason for the food blockade to be kept in place after the end of the hostilities was aimed at forcing Germany to sign the Versailles Treaty without any change on the strict conditions they were imposing. Today no one remembers it because it was kept secret and there were no leaks to the western press while 900,000 German men, women and children died because of the British naval blockade. Even today only a few non-Germans know the truth and American and British historians, seems to have brushed off this most appalling crime as a footnote in history." CONTINUED

 

You still haven't shown the locations of the hundreds of homicidal gas chambers that would be needed to murder millions of people.
Don't you agree that hundreds of homicidal gas chambers would be needed to murder millions of people in such a short period of time.
Independent thinking people began to notice the impossibility of the "gas chamber" story and invented the equally fraudulent "Holocaust by Bullets" where anyone could claim anything.

The only "chemical evidence" that exists is from defumigation chambers.
Which alleged "gas chambers" are you talking about?

If you mean the one at Auschwitz, that one was significantly altered by the Soviet occupiers and could never have functioned as a homicidal gas chamber.
The Soviets added the peephole and holes in the roof in addition to other alterations.

The location of this alleged gas chamber is also absurd. Who would locate a homicidal gas chamber right across the street from the camp hospital, next to the Gestapo office where the fumes would sicken anyone walking by?
You're not using critical thinking skills if that makes sense.

The homicidal gas chamber, homicidal steam chamber, homicidal electrocution chamber were all part of Allied atrocity propaganda:

"The Auschwitz gassing story, which was an important part of the Allied wartime propaganda effort, was also broadcast to Europe by Allied radio stations."(2)

Next, all the gassing stories are different and not one of the "eyewitnesses" knew the obvious fact that if someone dies from cyanide gas, parts of your body turn cherry red or pink. (3)
Additionally, there are also countless Holocaust survivors who tell the truth that there were no homicidal gas chambers.
Do you want me to Post their accounts?

Finally, there was one German built homicidal gas chamber only it was built by German POWs for the Soviets to display as a real homicidal gas chamber.
The only problem is that the German POWs knew nothing about building one in spite of all the materials that were supplied by the Soviets.
Somehow, the fake gas chamber was completed and the Soviets invited journalists, historians and the press from around the world to see "proof" that the Germans used homicidal gas chambers.
Unfortunately for the Soviets and the Holocaust Industry, the hoax was discovered and the story censored in some countries because it showed the homicidal gas chamber claim to be the hoax that it is. (3)

Thanks,



(1). "Auschwitz Expert: Blueprints Found in Berlin Not of Death Camp"
https://www.haaretz.com/1.5056721

EXCERPT "Prof. Robert Jan van Pelt, a internationally acknowledged expert on the planning and construction of Auschwitz,

Van Pelt, an architectural historian, said that copies of the plans of the stages of the camp's construction were also in the archive of the Polish National Museum at Auschwitz and in an archive in Moscow.

Van Pelt said he also doubted the authenticity of the signature of the SS chief, Heinrich Himmler, since such a high-ranking officer would not have signed such plans, and none of the copies he had ever seen bore such a signature.

Van Pelt also said the words "gas chamber" on one of the drawings meant a room in which disinfection of clothing was done by means of gas, and that the sketch is not of an extermination camp established in 1942, but rather of earlier plans for a huge concentration camp in which a force of 130,000 slave laborers was intended to work.

Van Pelt suggested the plans might be fakes, motivated by the lucrative market in Nazi memorabilia and documents."CONTINUED



(2). “Auschwitz: Myths and Facts”
http://www.ihr.org/leaflets/auschwitz.shtml

EXCERPT “Allied Propaganda

The Auschwitz gassing story is based in large part on the hearsay statements of former Jewish inmates who did not personally see any actual signs of extermination. Their beliefs are understandable, because rumors about gassings at Auschwitz were widespread. Allied planes dropped large numbers of leaflets, written in Polish and German, on Auschwitz and the surrounding areas which claimed that people were being gassed in the camp. The Auschwitz gassing story, which was an important part of the Allied wartime propaganda effort, was also broadcast to Europe by Allied radio stations. [15] CONTINUED

15. Nuremberg document NI-11696. NMT "green series," Vol. 8, p. 606.


(3). "NKVD Forced German POWs to Build Fake Gas Chambers AFTER the War !"
https://vk.com/@-181845420-nkvd-forced-german-pows-to-build-fake-gas-chambers-after-the

 

I don't recall claiming that "millions of people" were killed in the gas chambers. And you you have failed to address the rest.

We've been through this before. You tried claiming that the gas chambers were just delousing chambers. Then, the day you found out that delousing chambers require HIGHER concentrations of poison than gas chambers do, you IMMEDIATELY changed your mind and denied the existence of the delousing chambers as well. Catch up.