Don't tell us it's Guns

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  1. WillReadmore

    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

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    I'm saying that for all their great work (and the killing of plenty enough black kids) the gun death rate is still WAY to high.

    Also, as long as the police are not trusted by the people being policed, they aren't going to do any better.

    They need to learn that when you get called on 911, you aren't supposed to shoot the person who called you - especially when he is 11 and has his hands up, for God's sake.

    Do you think that family and their friends are ever going to call the police again? Ever?
     
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    In general, all our larger cities are blue, because Republicans don't have answers.
     
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    Blue cities don’t arrest murders at all? Blue cities just allow murderers to roam free without any consequence at all as the norm do they? Could you show proof that blue cities have made it law that they do not arrest or bring to trial murderers? Thanks.
     
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    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Reacting to a murder after the fact means the death has already taken place, and hence there is nothing to reduce.

    Man power is at all time high, - significantly higher than few years ago, because 90+% of precincts increased manpower

    There is no State or city in US who lets murderers free. You have been lied to.
     
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    Wild Bill Kelsoe Well-Known Member

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    "Repeat offenders already commit a substantial portion of the nation’s violent crime—according to one study, 53 percent of killers have at least one prior felony conviction."

    https://www.city-journal.org/article/second-third-and-fourth-chances-at-what-price/

    You've been lied to...

    "Police departments across the country are facing a "vicious cycle" of retirements, resignations, and fewer hires, according to policing experts, leaving the communities they protect with understaffed departments and potentially underqualified officers.

    A survey released on April 1 from the Police Executive Research Forum of 182 law enforcement agencies indicated that while police departments are recruiting more officers compared to a 2020 decrease, departments have seen 47% more resignations and 19% more retirements in 2022 compared to 2019."

    https://abcnews.go.com/US/police-de...lenges-retaining-recruiting/story?id=98363458

    Looks like you were lied to, a lot...

    https://thehill.com/opinion/criminal-justice/3576174-why-are-so-many-violent-criminals-walking-free/
     
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    Wild Bill Kelsoe Well-Known Member

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    If a murderer runs, the cops can't persue...lol. Duh!
     
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    Yes, less violence in general.

    True. Hence my calling out both the tool and the culture making it more dangerous. The USA violence problem will exist absent guns. Guns amplify the damage.

    If you fail to secure a hunting knife and keep it in the reach or children, you can and should be found liable for damage done. Swords should require greater care and responsibility. Guns still more. The more dangerous the weapon the more secure we should insist it be and the more responsibility we should put on those who fail to meet that responsible standard. If there is gun insurance such as above, people will have an added reason to be sure they secure their firearm from theft and keep it away from kids, etc. It thereby lowers the danger to others of the person having the gun.

    It would be liability insurance. It would pay the medical bills for people who are shot and survive (should the shooter not have the money). Who else would you have pay? You don't even have a public universal healthcare system there.

    Are we going to pretend that in that culture guns are kept safe? That nobody can buy them there who fail to keep them safe?
     
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    You obviously didn’t read the article you provided.

    Under the policy, officers may give chase if they believe a person is committing or is about to commit a felony, a Class A misdemeanor such as domestic battery, or a serious traffic offense that could risk injuring others, such as drunken driving or street racing.
     
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    And how is the murder rate looking in Chicago?
     
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    This does noting to negate what I said.
    As usual.
     
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    There you go, fabricating nonsense again.
    Quantify your claim: How many of the 636 mass shootings in 2022 were committed by law the abiding?
    Prove your answer to be true.
     
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    Sure there is.
    You just don;t get to violate the constitution with them.
    There you go, fabricating nonsense again.
     
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    Horrible. But that has nothing to do with the false claim you made. South side of Chicago has been a horrible area for a long time.
     
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    what does that mean? if the penalty for mass murder does not deter a mass murderer, what will. Mass shooting murders are a statistically irrelevant number of homicides in the USA. You anti gun advocates pretend it's a major issue to support your gun banning agenda
     
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    let's cut the nonsense. Public safety is not what motivates these gun banners. so arguing about public safety is not going to impact their desires to ban our guns
     
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    do you demand the NAACP fashion solutions to deal with the fact that one on three black males has a felony record by age forty or blacks commit more than half the murders? Legal gun owners have a minor number of bad apples. So why do us gun owners who have no criminal records, have a duty to deal with illegal gun owners and create a solution?
     
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    why is the rate of "gun slaughter" (I guess if you count suicides it rises above statistical insignificance) for white Americans no higher than whites living in gun banning nanny states?
     
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    You don't, it just proves you don't care.
     
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    I have no duty to solve problems I don't cause. what I do have a duty to do, is to defend the constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic and that includes gun banners. Gun banners, and gun confiscators, want mass shootings to continue in order to help their jihad against gun rights
     
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    You have it backwards.

    When people don't respond the way you hope, and you really want a change, you have to change tactics.

    Yes, there are other cases. But, it is important to reduce the number of mass killings, especially when they involve our children at school.

    I'd like you to recognize that I have not called for banning guns.

    And, I have told YOU so many times.
     
  23. Wild Bill Kelsoe

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    It's worse now than it was 5 years ago.
     
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    Still has nothing to do with the false claim you made <shrug>
     
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    What false claim?
     
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