The global backlash against The Little Mermaid proves why we needed a Black Ariel

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  1. Pro_Line_FL

    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

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  2. garyd

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    Actually the little mermaid has been white since the early 1800's.
     
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    It's mindboggling how people can be so upset over something like this. Some people have tried to put it on the kids saying it's "messing" with them. The kids don't care. It's the adults who are losing their minds over stuff like this. The sad thing is these adults will then try to teach their kids to be upset over this stuff.
     
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    And how does this prove we need a black Ariel?
     
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    In my view it does serve a purpose. Have you watched any of the videos of little Black girls watching the trailer for the first time? Their eyes lighting up when they see that Ariel looks like them? It's beautiful. And if Disney can make that happen, good for them. They didn't create any trauma for little White girls in the process...they just brought some happiness. Why is that so awful to a bunch of White grown ups?
     
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    Yes I did moors are from Arabia through North Africa not sub Saharan. Their race is quite thoroughly mixed with a very good tan courtesy of spending their lives in a place that gets upwards of three hundred days of sunlight a year.
     
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    Yeah as if teaching people there only allowed to identify with people that look like them is a good idea.
     
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    Because that's apparent the only assumption you seem to have.
     
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    So you fell for FEELINGS? Just look at the children=) Do little girls eyes light up for Tiana and OTHER princesses that were written as black? I assume so. Guess what, little black girls eyes lit up in '89, just as wide when they saw the original Ariel. Are you saying there is trauma for black girls looking at white Princesses? How many black princesses should 13% of the population get?

    When Snow White becomes black, let me know about white girl eyes=) NEVER MIND. White girl feelings don't matter any more, do they? Just like how white male feelings don't matter either.

    Its about pandering, DE&I, and diversity quotas fracturing the country. Race swapping historically white characters, which seems relatively meaningless, is just the tip of the spear of reconditioning and changing/erasing culture.
     
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    Except that I've yet to post anything about white supremacist's so it's odd you assume such. Hmmm
     
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    Ariel isn't historically white. She isn't historical at all. Mermaids don't exist. Why can't the fringe right come to terms with that?
     
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    More trolling? I'll post that emoji every time you post in a thread about how LGBT lives are in danger because grown men can't dance half dressed in front of children...something you oddly think is vitally important to their lives. =)
     
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    so if people were upset with making a popular black character white, they would be racist and anti-white?
     
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    Annnnnd....

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    So when every black character is reimagined as white, lets see how quiet you are. Your hypocrisy is laughable. You're using the "it doesn't matter" excuse ONLY when it doesn't matter to YOU. Transparent.

    Funny how its not being reserved for just fictional characters, but historical figures too. I bet you don't have any issue with that either. Wonder if a musical about MLK being white would be celebrated as much as Hamilton. ;)

    Oh by the way, your argument would ONLY matter if the new Little Mermaid wasn't named Ariel. If they created a new Little Mermaid that was black but a different story and different character, makes total sense. Nobody would care because its ORIGINAL. But ARIEL, the character written as she was does exists on paper and celluloid. A basic mermaid does not.
     
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    The post to which I responded sure hinted awfully loudly.
     
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    We've already had several non-white characters reimagined as white, many of them actual historical figures that (unlike mermaids) actually existed. I've talked about how much I've liked some of those depictions, buddy. Try reading the thread. You won't because it offends your racial sensitivities. Transparent.
     
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    "just as much as Blade is black and should always be black. You can easily re-imagine Blade as white. He's just a fictional super hero, right? But he SHOULD be black. Why make him white? Serves no purpose"

    agree, that would be just as wrong, and some would get upset, just like with this movie, so just would not do it
     
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    You mean THIS?

    "Much appreciated. Honestly, I don't normally care about changing the race of a character if the race of the character isn't actually an important plot point. I actually liked Ridley Scott's movie about Moses and especially liked the way Ramses was portrayed, even though he was white. I'm also a big fan of Jesus Christ Superstar and the racial casting there is all over the place. Despite being a big fan of the original Ghost in the Shell (both the manga and the anime) I didn't like ScarJo's version, but it had nothing to do with her race. I can see the argument for complaining about it if the race of the character is actually important to the story or if we're talking about an actual historical figure, but even with the later I'm kind of "meh."

    Casting due to STAR POWER is far different than what they did with Little Mermaid. There were a number of race/gender swaps including the sisters, and shifting of the story to empower females. It was all backwards. Sorry. Nice try. But the amount of race swapping from white to black is outpacing black to white, by a mile.

    And you didn't answer the question. Would a musical depicting MLK as white be applauded the same as Hamilton? You KNOW the answer is a resounding NO. Everyone knows this. And the question is why? You ALSO know the answer to that.
     
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    You could start with reading that. Try actually reading it.

    I gave you several examples of race swapping that I was fine with, buddy. Try reading it. Try. I used small words and I gave my standards. Hell, if you finally can stomach reading it you could easiy find out how it applies here! Try. I'm rootin' for you!
     
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    I did. Small words for a small mind using your own standards. MLK or Black Panther or Tiana as white people? GO!!! Yes or no? If you have ANY standards there is only one correct answer. And that one correct answer equally applies to Airel or ANY major white character getting race swapped. if your standards have no consistency, you have NO standards.

    Regarding Anime...wish Major was cast as Asian. But everyone knows why ScarJo got the role. Getting butts in seats. Then again, in the Anime, her style wasn't exactly Asian. She looked like the standard WIDE eyed American white person amalgam.
     
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    Trump's fault.
     
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    I see you still refuse to read. Pity If you had read, you would understand something I said about "if the race of the character isn't actually an important plot point." With MLK and Black Panther, the race of the character is an important plot point. With Tiana, it is not. And, hell, if there were some creative way of going about it, I'd be open to see what the ideas are. I've seen a white Othello and that actually worked. I'm sorry the concept of standards and consistency confuses you. I'll keep trying to help.
     
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    Sounds more like the one with hurt feelings is you.

    Would you be so kind to cite the post number in which you pointed out your mistake ?
     
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    That’s on you coming up with white supremacist. You might want to look into why that is what you thought of. <shrug>
     

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