Bible Banned in Utah Elementary School District.

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  1. Wild Bill Kelsoe

    Wild Bill Kelsoe Well-Known Member

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    Yes, in AG 1 and Ag 2.
     
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    Nothing is 'nessisary' in an elementary school library. We can of course just close them down. But the basic idea is the same in a school library as it is in any other. People with access, are supposed to explore ideas and experiences and learn to enjoy reading. The only difference between a school library and any other is that material is properly limited to those that are deemed age appropriate. In other words 'kids books' in a kids library. The King James Bible is not age appropriate in an elementary library. Books showcasing different forms of families that these kids can find themselves in, can be.
     
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    Keep dancing around it. You're not for religious freedom after all. Hypocrisy at its finest.
     
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    Wildbillkelsoe thinks his fellow righties might "jump" him on here if he says he's for all religious books in schools.
     
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    That's not what your fellow righty thinks.
     
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    agree, they should only allow Children't bibles in the school library, one that sanitizes out the bad stuff that is not age appropriate

    when I went to Sunday school, they did not have us read the adult version
     
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    the republican law is why the Bible was banned from the library of little children, this is what they wanted
     
  8. yardmeat

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    I'm not okay with Mark Twain being banned and the only time I've seen Dr. Seuss actually banned was by anti-environmentalist conservatives.
     
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    He's trying to skate around defending the Koran in public schools like he's doing with the bible.
     
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    I noticed he avoided my question as well.
     
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    Dr Seuss was never banned. Not only in the sense that banned being used as you complained about, but it wasn't even called for by others to be removed. The owners of the rights to those books withdrew them voluntarily from production/publication. As is their right to do so with their IP. What we are discussing is people demanding the removal of material that is not their own IP. IOW, red herring fallacy.
     
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    And it's not necessarily an issue with all biblical stories, but the bible itself as a whole book. If we are using the criteria of inappropriate material for a given age group, there are plenty of biblical stories that could still be allowable in a collected works book, without being hypocritical about subject matter.
     
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    They print various children's versions of the Bible.
     
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    Oh I think there are books one could consider necessary for a public school library for academic and literary study which is the purpose of a public school library. I don't get the reason that would require we close them down. I agreed that the KJB is not appropriate for elementary level due to the language being about the reading ability and some of the content on a more mature level. Same with books showcasing deviant lifestyles.
     
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    Geez. Well you will die eventually, and the young people of either major party who will be burying or cremating you, will not be horrified by two women loving each other and a kid. You are hopeless.
     
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    Precisely what I am saying. Those specific versions or just collected stories are not necessarily subject to the hypocrisy that is being presented in the argument to remove books with certain subjects and not removing the bible, which also contains those subjects.
     
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    Can't say they would have or wouldn't have. I just know he said they did prayer for the iranian hostages until someone complained at which point it became a moment of silence you could pray silently in if you were so inclined.
     
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    So children learning about animal ejaculate, child rape, murder, incest, mass genocide are ok and acceptable to be broadcast over the air but gay characters are where you people draw the line.

    It’s telling how many questions you are dodging in this thread alone. You know it’s a cognitively dissonant position, you just don’t care.
     
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    the best one
     
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    If you ignore the laws that were passed, then yes. If you don't, then no. The effort is something that is based on the broad-based laws. You have parents, simply by going by the title, or some other nafarious outcome, the parent then says this book should be banned, and the review board, given very broad discretion will agree to that. Hence why the Bible was banned, ironically, by the very same law that Utah passed. And in Florida, a poem, that is "rated g" was restricted and yet nothing in the book, no quotes, made that distinction.

    If you cannot see that, then no one can help you.
     
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    And yet, you are agreeing with President Trump who said "the correct interpretation" of the 14th Amendment as, "would require that at least one parent be an American citizen or lawful permanent resident for their children to become automatic U.S. citizens." And yet, the very quote you are citing says otherwise.

    So, who is being dishonest here?
     
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    You used to find the Gideon bible in every hotel room in the US, even most motel rooms. Although Gidoen Bibles are still in Hotel or Motel rooms, not as frequent as it used to be.

    For your father, that was in the 1970s. Beginning in the mid 80s, that began to change because some public schools would punish students who did not participate in prayer. the punishment was not official, but it was there.
     
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    Have I made that argument?
     
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    What is the hypocracy in saying the KJB should be in the higher grades library and not the elementary grade library if such religious and philosophical books of all the various views are available in the library?

    As I said I don't know of any elementary school libraries that have such sections as that is above the academic readings of elementary school students so even the children's versions of such writings would only be taking up space.
     
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    Debate the issue not the other poster, else your post have little merit or interest.
     

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