Grassley: Burisma executive who allegedly paid Biden has audio recordings of conversations with Joe,

First y’all said it was a lie, now they’re not important nuclear secrets lol

 

He IS a liar, just not clear if he’s lying this time.

 

I already retracted my mistake in post #4
http://www.politicalforum.com/index...onversations-with-joe.611193/#post-1074266758

 

No. Its beyond ridiculous. Every time a republican gets busted doing something, 5 minutes later their is a right wing news outlets claiming that a dem did the same thing. Then when the story gets going their is always some article claiming to have some smokeing gun to prove their story, and they literally never materialize.

“Allegedly” means, “this is made up to counter a story form the other side”

 

Prove it. Lol, you can't prove it.

 

Bull brown stuff.

 

Like I said, if these alleged tapes existed, they would be all over Fox News on a perpetual loop. Again, every time, the right has some tape, or some PROOF of their allegation but they need one more day, or the tapes are on the way, or the a video is being cleaned up as we speak….etc….etc….etc…

 

Stop winging it.
The thread is not about what Fox has or doesn't have. It's about the FBI not handing over a document so that the American people can read it for themselves.

 

I have no idea what he had or how relevant it is to when he had it. Top tier nuclear stuff is important. Other than that, you can find stuff that would otherwise be "secret" on the internet.

 

You find it online and you can’t be sure it’s real. You find it in the presidents bathroom, and you can be confident it’s real

 

The form of the guy who heard it second hand and the FBI has been unable to confirm for over 2 years??? lol

 

Got it. Hillary and Joe Biden are f%kkkking geniuses and the right wing and GOP are dunces, in a nutshell!

 

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Here's what happened when NBC News tried to report on the alleged Hunter Biden emails

Analysis: Trump complains the media isn't reporting on Hunter Biden's emails. But NBC News met obstacles, including Rudy Giuliani, when it tried.

...But the Wall Street Journal and Fox News — among the only news organizations that have been given access to key documents — found that the emails and other records don’t make that case. Leaving aside the many questions about their provenance, the materials offered no evidence that Joe Biden played any role in his son’s dealings in China, let alone profited from them, both news organizations concluded.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/20...d-when-nbc-news-tried-report-alleged-n1245533

 

Weird how many people Diaper Donnie hired who were "bad" people right?

 

The ones who heard (or heard about) what our U.S. Senator Grassley spoke aloud in The Senate Chamber the information from that FBI form…
Fearing that it might be true could be the main reason for pulling “The Liar Card” out of their deck of negative cards and simply played it. imho

 

Why don't they just call Mykola Zlochevsky and ask for the tapes?
I'm sure Giuliani has his number., lol

 

after the Trump admin, that is funny to even pretend the right care

 

Yes, he's only got 71 indictments and more on the way, a fast learner that one

 

Just proves that the Left is just as corrupt as the right. When will the sheep learn?

 

You hear about a lot of "disproven" stuff in the law? Thought it was supposed to BE CONFIRMED or not?

"...Republicans are hyping a secondhand allegation from a single source — an allegation that was in the hands of Attorney General William P. Barr’s Justice Department in mid-2020 without leading to criminal charges or, it seems, any specific investigation.''

It is not hard to figure out why this is unfolding the way it is unfolding. There’s an enormous appetite on the right at the moment for evidence that the FBI and Justice Department are deploying a double standard or that Biden deserves to face criminal charges just as much as former president Donald Trump. That provides the space that Comer and Grassley are filling, running far ahead of their extremely limited evidence.

...That source, whose identity the bureau is eager to protect, is someone who had been paid by the bureau for information in the past and is considered credible — though that of course doesn’t extend to the Burisma executive with whom the source spoke. It’s the executive who alleged the bribery, money purportedly offered in part to halt the investigation of Burisma by Shokin.

An investigation, remember, that doesn’t appear to have existed.


There are other problems with the story, too...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/06/13/gop-biden-allegation-analysis/

No paywall
https://archive.ph/Bm3FY

 

Who said $10 million paid to stop an investigation that wasn't even happening? lol

https://archive.ph/Bm3FY

 

...Over the next month, Republicans pressed the FBI to release the form publicly. Comer threatened to hold FBI Director Christopher A. Wray in contempt. Grassley and he appeared on Fox News and other right-wing media over and over to use this pressure campaign to re-elevate the allegation they’d featured at the outset. Eventually, the FBI made the document available for members of Congress to view, redacting information about the confidential source who had been interviewed.

But despite incremental new revelations about the form and about the push for the form to be released, nothing about the situation has changed from that first news release. Republicans are hyping a secondhand allegation from a single source — an allegation that was in the hands of Attorney General William P. Barr’s Justice Department in mid-2020 without leading to criminal charges or, it seems, any specific investigation.


It is not hard to figure out why this is unfolding the way it is unfolding. There’s an enormous appetite on the right at the moment for evidence that the FBI and Justice Department are deploying a double standard or that Biden deserves to face criminal charges just as much as former president Donald Trump. That provides the space that Comer and Grassley are filling, running far ahead of their extremely limited evidence.

https://archive.ph/Bm3FY#selection-707.0-711.117

 

Does he then deserve to be convicted? Put in jail?

 

....So is the fact that no charges for bribery were brought against Joe or Hunter Biden. In a statement, a spokesperson for the Oversight Committee Democrats said that the bureau, in showing the document to members of Congress, “informed the Committee, in no uncertain terms, that this assessment was closed in August 2020 after it failed to identify sufficient evidence to justify further investigation.”


...As journalist Marcy Wheeler notes, Comer and Grassley appear to be engaged in precisely what Republicans have long alleged about the dossier of reports compiled about Trump by former intelligence officer Christopher Steele: elevating questionable allegations from foreign sources that are transmitted by a paid FBI informant. But the target of these allegations is Biden, so they’re presented with a default credulousness.

....But it is also the case that Comer, Grassley and their allies are more interested in elevating the allegation than evaluating it. Since that news release at the beginning of May and its initial claim that Biden was bribed, the allegation has not gotten more credible. It was likely tied back to Giuliani? The FBI had it and didn’t pursue a probe? Despite there being “tape recordings”? And Oversight never got wind of the alleged $5 million payment?


Republicans have an easy response to this: The FBI is corrupt and anti-Trump. But that’s just begging the question.

https://archive.ph/Bm3FY#selection-1183.0-1189.115

 

Update: Two members of Congress who have seen the 1023 told the New York Post that the executive at issue was Burisma founder Mykola Zlochevsky.

In 2020, former Giuliani aide Lev Parnas — then himself under indictment on federal charges — told Politico that Giuliani had met privately with Zlochevsky in mid-2019, in the middle of Trump’s effort to get Ukraine to announce an investigation into Biden.


“Asked to detail any contacts he had with Joe Biden from 2013-2019, and whether Hunter ever facilitated any meetings,” Politico’s Natasha Bertrand wrote, “Zlochevsky replied: ‘No one from Burisma ever had any contacts with VP Biden or people working for him during Hunter Biden’s engagement.’ "


Giuliani, Parnas said, was furious at that answer.

https://archive.ph/Bm3FY#selection-1197.0-1233.50