Anyone Have An Experience With Covid

1. It would get more interesting if you had taken the time to interpret the information/results from both the Rosenau and Frost experiments. It's only 3 pages long and highlights their investigation to determine the mode of spread for the "so-called" influenza viron of 2018-2019. By the way JAMA, is an international peer-reviewed general medical journal published continuously since 1883, It's an international peer-reviewed general medical journal. (JAMA is a member of the JAMA Network, a consortium of peer-reviewed, general medical and specialty publications.)


2. Just understand that it was WW-1 that raged on in Europe for 4 years (not the "so-called" influenza pandemic 1918-1919) and that genocide was affectionately known by the global de-population elites as the "Chemists War" It got its name because of the lethal airborne use of Phosgene gas, Chlorine gas and Mustard gas.

Phosgene gas - (COCl₂) is a colorless gas with a innocuous odor similar to that of musty hay. Exposure to phosgene gas can cause irritation to the eyes, vomiting, cough, foamy sputum, breathing difficulty, chest pain and finally suffocation.

Chlorine gas - aka gaseous chlorine, is another poisonous gas and classified as a pulmonary irritant. It has intermediate water solubility with the capability of causing acute damage to the upper and lower respiratory tract. Chlorine gas has many industrial uses, but it was also one of favorite deadly gases that was widely used as an airborne chemical weapons in WW-1 that also inundated the civilian population areas throughout the war.

Mustard gas - Breathing Mustard gas can irritate the lungs causing coughing and/or shortness of breath. Mustard Gas in high concentrations can cause severe skin burns and blisters.

3. You asked me "do you know how the flu of '14 - '18 spread?" As I mentioned above the so called "Spanish Flu" was only a "two year creation" by the "psychopaths" and "megalomaniacs" who brought you the "genocide" of their Chemists War from 1914 to 1918. It was conceived and contrived specifically to cover up the horrific atrocities of mass murder and de-population. As the Milton J. Rosenau, M.D transmission experiment published in the Jama article above proved that no such transmission of the so-called viron labeled as "influenza" had ever occurred, not even once, with direct exposure from saliva, mucous, or blood from the so-called infected people.

There was no Influenza pandemic, so there were no transmissions/spread, but only a PSYOPS called the Spanish flu being used to hide these sick psychopaths and their intentional killing of innocent civilians all along the European theater in WW-1.

 

Thanks for taking my question seriously and your info. Why has so many historians and the media gone along with the flu story?
BTW -- MM2 (SS) here, 1957 to 1960, aboard the USS Thornback SS-418. Corpsmen were the nicest guys in the Navy.

 

As someone who gets hectic acne, I'd rather wear a scuba tank than a mask.

 

I'm glad that you have recovered and perhaps you recall the experience of my girlfriend and I?

A bit over 2 years ago maybe three almost.... She got the first injection and she was fine a while later she got the second injection and her arm immediately swelled up like a baseball at the site of the injection and she got a sore throat that same day which later developed into lumps which were of course cancerous.

After going through chemo and radiation for the cancer of the lymph nodes it moved into her larynx and now she has had a complete laryngectomy and breaths through a stoma entirely.

None of which she was experiencing before the injection.

I can't say for certain it was the cause but I can say that I do not believe in coincidences and there is more evidence that it was involved then that it was not.

I have not taken the experimental vaccine and I do not intend to.

 

Because 'the flu' is REAL that's why. It's 4 sub-types s are members of a family of RNA viruses called Orthomyxoviridae. It'd had its RNA based genome decoded, it's been photographed, scanned by electron microscopes and observed as it infiltrates cell lines in labs and commenced reproduction. And if you don't believe the flu is real? Then neither is polio or Small Pox, HIV, Rotavirus, Chicken Pox, Herpes, Marburg, Ebola, Lassa etc etc ... the list goes on. You have to 'not believe' that DNA and RNA are 'real' nor in sequencing of DNA, electron microscopes or the whole host of other modern medical instruments and techniques that scientists use to study viral diseases in plant, animals and humans. In short you have to 'not believe' in one of the foundation cornerstones of modern medicine.

You also have 'not to believe' in history because the first virus was identified in 1892 even though the scientists who later studied didn't realize that they'd stimbled on to one of the major scientific discoveries of their generation. You have to not believe that the RNA of the 1918 flu epidemic as been recovered from bodies exhumed in the Arctic and sequenced/fingerprinted. What you do have to believe is that there is a global conspiracy of such monumental proportions dating back generations designed to 'hide' the truth from the gullible public. A truth that only insightful 'geniuses' like Navy Corpsman can see.

Just do some real research. Go to a local library or bookstore and obtain a book on the history of disease and or epidemics, read up on the 1918 flu outbreak and why it was so severe. There are reasons. Hell contact a university and ask to speak to a virologist or microbiologist or even attend lectures. Hell just discuss the topic with someone face to face.

 

EM (nuke) served on the USS Snook (SSN-592)
The Doc on our boat (HM1) was a cool guy.

 

There is no evidence that the vaccine had anything to do with it.
It doesn't matter if you "believe" in coincidences or not, they happen.

 

Yes they do and to be honest we don't know whether the person involved had a rare but real reaction to the vaccine either. So I won't judge in such matters. But COVID is a real honest to goodness medically verifiable virus to which humankind had not yet developed an immunity to resist when in all likelihood a Chinese lab released it upon the world. And the damage it can do to the human body has been witnessed all over the world as well as the fact that the younger had better ability to get through it without lasting harm more than the elderly which is true of many illnesses known to humankind.

As for coincidence I am reminded of the story of the mother who brought her child into the clinic for a routine childhood vaccination. A second before the vaccine was injected, the child had his first ever unexpected seizure. Had that seizure occurred a second after the injection, there is no force on Earth that could have convinced that mother that the injection did not cause that seizure.

 

In December 2019 at age 73 I had a similar experience. I spent the entire month in the hospital with a diagnosis of pneumonia while they struggled to keep me alive. I had the now classic symptoms of lack of smell and taste, a cough, and extreme fatique. For four or five days I had no desire to eat or drink anything. My wife and the hospital staff were convinced I was trying to commit suicide. I was gradually able to beat it but I needed two weeks of PT before I could be released from the hospital. Fortunately I have good insurance and the whole episode cost me almost nothing.

 

I'm glad to hear you made it out of that and I hope you don't have any lingering effects. My sense of taste definitely changed, but that can happen just from a cold or the flu, I guess. My mom is a hospital worker, my brother-in-law is a fire fighter, my oldest niece is in a high-risk category, and so is my father. I had to avoid contact with some of the people I love most in my life out of caution during the pandemic, but I'm lucky that's the biggest harm I faced.

Still, overall, I wonder if the mental health damage caused by this isolation will ultimately prove to be even more damaging than the virus itself. Not saying we shouldn't have done it, just that we need to be open to taking a hard look at the impact.

 

It's a very dangerous experience, isn't it. I hope I never have anything similar happen in my family. I've since had a kidney transplant and am even more suceptible to such things because of the immune supression meds I have to take.

 

I agree. Isolation is advisable for devastating diseases that are transmitted via contact

I agree especially for the very young for whom the risk is relatively very small. Humans are mostly a herd animal and with few exceptions need and benefit from human interaction. Children denied that simply do not develop normally. We have seen an increase in drug and alcohol dependency among adults who were denied normal human interaction as well.

Certainly dangerous diseases such as polio that are spread mostly via direct contact rather than airborne should be quarantined. Isolate those infected rather than the general public in those cases.

But highly contagious diseases such as flu or covid or whatever, I don't know how much good social distancing or wearing masks actually did. The mask of course prevents large particles from coughs and sneezes from being projected but it is unlikely to trap much if any of the virus itself. Herd immunity seems to be what causes these viral outbreaks to diminish and fade into obscurity for awhile.

 

I had COVID twice. It was nothing more than annoying cold with a cough both times. The second time the cough lingered for week or two after the brief illness passed.

 

Thank God your body was able to fight off the virus as well as it did. Our bodies are amazing things.

 

That is the experience of many. Others have much more severe lingering symptoms. I have two nephews who still didn't feel right more than a year after having severe cases of COVID. And as I have previously posted, we have lost three family members and one good friend to this disease as has been reported by millions of others. Widely varying experience from many millions who have had it.

Yes for some it is a mild case of the "flu." For others it is very different. I just shake my head at those who insist it is all a hoax or presume to dictate to others how they should regard it. It is no hoax. And one's own experience can be very different for others.

 

Hard to extrapolate from one experience, but most likely it allowed your life to be saved by giving your immune system a head start. The mortality rate for covid at 82 was pretty high for earlier strains. A better way to evaluate this is with actual data rather than anecdotes, and the data showed vaccines helped, just not as much as we've come to expect from vaccines like for measles.

I've never had covid as far as I know. 39 years old, vaccinated and boosted, but all of it was as early as possible so it's been awhile. Not worried about boosting further. If work requires it, I'll do it for sure.

 

Same here. Right now not planning to have any more boosters but will play it by ear. I have three friends in the medical field working in hospitals. One is pretty politically ambiguous, one a pro MAGA Trump voter and Rand Paul admirer, one a hard left woke Democrat. All three were working regular shifts during the worst of the COVID outbreaks and all three agree that the truly serious cases they saw and pretty much all the fatal cases they saw were among the unvaccinated who made up the lion's share of hospitalized COVID patients.

There are risk with the vaccine yes but it is miniscule compared to the risk of serious illness, lasting disability, death from getting the disease without vaccination among the higher risk groups.

 

Someone here stated that sequencing of DNA and the use of electron microscopes prove that virons exits. It does not prove the existence of invisible, sub-microscopic unicorns that fly from one person’s nose to another as the CAUSE of that disease.

It is the unproven notion of airborne viral illness that has enslaved humanity to the corrupt medical cartel. What better psychological wedge can be implemented against humanity than making people afraid of invisible emanations from other people.

There are multiple lines of evidence to dispute the classic viral disease paradigm, including historical records, biological evidence (or lack thereof) and clinical “experiments” as I recently posted in my other reply, here in this thread.

It may come as a surprise to most people and even some doctors that person-to-person transmission of influenza has not been proven. In fact, during the COVID Scam in the summer of 2020, the CDC itself published research in the journal of Emerging Infectious Diseases that showed neither wearing gloves, wearing a mask, nor disinfecting the surfaces you touch stops community spread of Influenza. [Think about that] And “Influenza” is Italian for “influence” and does not imply an organism or spread between people.

Current professional literature after 2005 will make grandiose assertions. But assertions are not evidence, even if you say it over and over as in this case. A Science review article from 2021 states, “However, there is robust evidence supporting the airborne transmission of many respiratory viruses, including severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus (SARS-CoV)” https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.abd9149

The problem is the evidence is not all that “robust”. Bioinformatics and genetic fragments do not prove disease causation. The question of causation was seriously studied during the alleged Spanish flu outbreak at the end of WW-1.

Today, in the age of COVID lunacy, smart people have learned to question the official death numbers because they just don’t correspond to our observations. And we observed the ease with which “cause of death” can be skewed by hospitals coding for profit and propaganda (remember the motorcyclist who crashed and died of COVID?). Similarly, the story of the great and awful 1918 pandemic has changed over time, and one should not take modern “retelling” at face value. Kate Daly, a freelance journalist, a former newscaster, and current radio show host researched news archives about the 1918 Pandemic, and discovered that like a giant whispering game, over the last century, the numbers of the dead reported in newspapers consistently rose. Original reports of dead are very small in the US county by county adding up to about 100,000. But by 1920, they were reporting 500,000 dead in the US. In 1941 two decades after the event, they claimed an estimate of 10 million dead worldwide. By 1975 newspaper reports doubled the count to 20 million dead. Mike Leavitt DHS reported in 2005 the number to be 38 million, and now the CDC tells us 50 million died worldwide....

As I took up the news archive search to confirm this, I very quickly recognized that newspapers of the early 20th Century were used for the same propaganda we suffer today. We may think that only news in the digital age is controlled by a few major corporate voices, but I found, from 1917-1922, papers from all over America had identical articles under different banners. It is somewhat humorous, but also confirmatory of the controlled nature of the press that, in the days of linotype, when each story was hand produced using lead printing letters, spelling errors were different, but the exact verbiage was used in “small town newspapers” all over the country.

Why the pandemic was called the Spanish flu is unclear. First World War Army recruits at a military base were becoming ill, and many were dying of a strange pulmonic disorder associated with fever, severe fatigue, and bloody discharge. [Perhaps being used as WW-1 test subjects for the interim use of Chemical Weapons as those human guinea pigs at Tuskegee]

Unlike today, the US Public Health Service made an honest attempt to understand transmission of the illness. They enlisted volunteers who leaned over the dying without touching them, putting their mouths close to the mouths of the sick, and breathing in their exhalations. The volunteers did not become ill. Then, they had sick and dying people cough on the volunteers. They swabbed mucus and nasal secretions from the sick and stuffed it into the noses and throats of the well. In the days before antibiotics, they even spun down the secretions of the dying and injected this solution into the well volunteers. But no matter what they did, they could not transfer this new disease to the healthy volunteers. In actual numbers, zero out of 118 well volunteers became sick. From the Navy Archives, “The volunteers were repeatedly exposed to hospital patients exhibiting influenza-like symptoms in an attempt to make them contract the disease. Although the 118 men failed to develop influenza, they all received full pardons in recognition of their participation.” (This tells you the “volunteers” were actually not so voluntary—probably being in the brig at the time.).....

NONE of the volunteer soldiers exposed to the fluids of patients with symptoms of Spanish Flu ever contracted the Spanish Flu symptoms, none of them....lol

The Pandemic of 1918 was the prototype for covering up mass genocide of the twee nth century through the bogus use of infectious transmissible worldwide disease, which is purely based on skewed history, propaganda, and assumptions, not proof.

 

Your posts are very frightening.

 

The shots are a joke. We started with every democrat telling us if you got them you wouldn't get COVID. Then we were told if we got COVID we wouldn't die. Then it became we were less likely to die.

I'm going to go on living my best life. I've had COVID multiple times with no vaccination, and It was nothing.

 

Good ones, we now know for sure the government wasn't knowledgeable and had no problem lying to us. And now we're going into round two as the government tells us more lies about a "new variant". How about the claim that "the unvaxxed people were spreading the vaxx". Well I had the vaxx and still spread the virus to my family. As far as I'm concerned, and based on my own experience, when it comes to the Covid vaxx you are playing Russian roulette. That little Faucci is now back out of retirement trying to gain a little more power by telling us to wear a mask and get the vaxx. Along with Biden's new surgeon general. They are making it up as they go along. Very confusing. I wouldn't let that doctor trim my toenails.

 

The craziest thing was when you questioned them you were called anti-science. When it turned out they were wrong, well that's how science works.

A lot of science is like that and rightly so. We have well tested explanations for things that are considered correct until we have strong evidence to the contrary. The COVID response was not that. I'm glad politicians here in Texas quickly realized the stupidity of it all and lifted the restrictions. As far as I can tell, blue staters were developing stockholm syndrome.

 

The words of "truth" can sometimes make those who are intentionally less informed and being lied too, afraid or anxious.

 

I did not consume the pharma product and got Covid twice. Both times, I could have gone to work, but I was selfish with my germs and kept them to myself.

 

His point was that the vaccine didn't prevent an infection. The symptoms he mentioned were caused by Covid.