House censures Rep. Rashida Tlaib over Israel remarks

What do you think it means:

 

Wiping the state of Israel off the map does not mean wiping Israelis off the map, nor even doing any harm to Israelis.
Israel is a political creation from 1948, when the state of Israel was planted in what was then Palestine.

 

1.Wiping Israel off the map does not mean wiping Israelis off the map, or even harming Israelis.
The state of Israel was created in 1948, when it was planted in what was then Palestine.
2. Regarding the White House briefing you refer to, I tell you that if you believe a White House briefing then you will believe anything.

 

As the daughter of Palestinian immigrants and as a politician who works with Hamas fundraisers to help fund her political campaigns, we know that she knows "from the river to the sea" means the destruction of Israel and its people, and it is in the Hamas charter right next to killing all the Jews. It is a battle cry for terrorists who kill innocent Israelis.

 

There's no reason to believe the rocket that landed in the parking lot was from an Israeli bomb. The crater, impact, and lack of Israeli munition fragments at the scene all point to a misfired Hamas rocket. You're free to promote conspiracy theories, but the best information we have says it is extremely unlikely that Israel is responsible. Tlaib saying they were responsible, repeatedly, even after having this information, is just defending terrorists. The only other true statement would be that nobody knows with 100% certainty, but you rarely get that in war. There's no evidence or reason to suspect Israel is responsible. But, she kept blaming our ally for something she knew she should not be blaming them for, pretending it was a war crime to give aid and comfort to terrorists who were firing missiles indiscriminately at civilians rather than military targets.

 

1. There have been plenty of pro Palestine demonstrations, but where exactly have you heard a report of any pro Hamas demonstrations ?
2. Can you tell us which Muslim countries treat other religions badly, and in what way precisely they treat other religions badly?

 

It is not in the interests of the United States to support Israel in this war. The United States Government is not on the side of the United States. It seems intent on continuing to make the US the most hated nation in the Middle East, if not in the entire world. It would do better to keep its military nose out of other nations' business for a change. That includes ending the provision of weaponry to causes in which the US has no justifiable interest.
The outrageous financial cost of the defence budget is far too harmful to the American people.

 

'From the River to the Sea' is a reference to the land of Palestine prior to 1948, much of which was taken from the Palestinians and handed to the new state of Israel. Ever since then, Israel has continued to steal more land from the Palestinians.
The call of 'from the River to the Sea' is a call for a return to the situation of pre-1948, and a call to return all the land to the Palestinians, removing the political entity of Israel from the map, but without harming any Israelis. Unfortunately, it is an impractical and impossible ideal now to incorporate what is now the nation of Israel into a nation of Palestine.

 

And who decides which interests are "justified"?

 

1. Hamas are the elected government of Gaza. A pro-Palestinian demonstration is a pro-Hamas demonstration.
2. All of them.

 

1. A demo for the people of Gaza is not a demo for its Government, even if elected (elected at least 14 years ago, incidentally). There are even many demos by people even against their own Governments, would you believe!
These worldwide pro Palestine demos are in support of the rights of Palestinian people vis-a-vis Israel. Nothing to do with Hamas. Did you see any Hamas posters among the marchers. Tell me where I can see that.

2. So you cannot name any of these Muslim countries mistreating other religions. Not just a few? And you cannot tell me in what way specifically they are mistreating them ?
Game set and match, I think, son.

 

Can you tell me why it is justified ?

 

When Iran, Hamas, and Hezbollah defeat Israel who do you think they'll target next? You think they'll become hippies and sing kumbaya around the campfire?

 

1. The Palestinians elected Hamas.
“The government you elect is the government you deserve.”
― Thomas Jefferson
2. "All of them" means all of them. Read on:
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I didn't say it was or was not justified. You said:

"That includes ending the provision of weaponry to causes in which the US has no justifiable interest."

Again, who determines justifiability?

 

Has she really spoken the truth:

 

I am saying it is not in the the interests of the U.S. It just creates more enemies, and it costs too much financially.

 

Whooooosh

 

1. Hamas was elected around 14 years ago, and there has not been another election since then. Many of the people who elected them have died since then, and most of the children in Gaza were not even born when Hamas was elected.
It seems you are implying that because Hamas was elected, thousands of children and women and their menfolk now deserve to be bombed to Kingdom come.
2. The original 'thread' concerned the remarks of a Congresswoman about Palestinians and the conflict between Israel and Hamas. I fail to see the relevance of the way Muslim Governments around the world treat non-Muslims.

 

They are more likely to target the U.S. and U.S. citizens if the U.S. Government continues aiding and abetting Israel.

 

That’s not what she did. She’s a bigot. She condones and justifies Islamic terrorism.

 

And your verified quote(s) from Rep. Tlaib, upon which your damning condemnation is based? Surely, no righteous man would ever accuse another person of such awful things as not just bigotry, but of the condoning & justifying of terrorism, without a solid cause, backing up their charges?