New Rule: From the River to the Sea | Real Time with Bill Maher (HBO)

I’m told by terrorist lovers that you can’t fight terrorists because you’ll just create new terrorists.

Given this rationale, I think it’s reasonable to conclude Hamas should have created one hell of a terrorist insurgency against itself amongst its own civilian population.

Where is it?

 

Well it did happen to the Germans.

Flight and expulsion of Germans (1944–1950)

And why? Because they were the losers, just like the Palestinians, after war after war by Arabs resulted in their defeat. I wouldn't care a bit about Germans in 2023 whining about returning to their homes. They lost.

So it is with the Palestinians. They rejected the two state solution of the UN partition, thought they could fight and take it all, and lost.

End of story as far as I'm concerned.

 

They allowed them to get power in the first place. There was no question what their intentions were. Death and destruction. THEY made that choice. They chose to act like 3rd world animals. Choices matter.

 

I doubt anyone told you that. They probably told you that it isn't wise to indiscriminately kill non-terrorist civilians, because it is likely to create some new terrorists. That shouldn't surprise anyone.

On the other hand, some empathy, humanitarian aid, and not labeling all Palestinians as Hamas or Hamas supporters could go a long way. If you treat people as your enemy, they are probably more likely to act accordingly, and side against you.

Pretty basic stuff.

 

Most Palestinians today were not even born yet when Hamas last won an election. Half of them are children. What do you expect a kid to do exactly? You blame six year olds killed in this for putting Hamas in power?

 

The parents made that choice. Hamas didn’t care much about burning children alive did they? EVERY human shield that dies is because Hamas attacked. Sorry. Find someone else if expect sympathy or empathy.

 

So abuse the kids for something their parents or others of their parents' generation did?

And you hold yourself to ethical standards no better than Hamas? Ok then.

 

What would we do if a group of Americans attacked a country murdering civilians and taking civilian hostages?
Do you think we would allow them to hide among us and keep their hostages prisoner?

 

I don't, I get rid of them.

 

And they keep coming back.

Don't tell me you have never gotten frustrated about something or other and wished it would just stop.

 

'how to cure Gaza and the West Bank of their blood lust? We can't. All we can do is demilitarize the area so there cannot be a repeat of October 7th, and remove the malign influence of UN-sponsored educational systems that actively promote the agenda that led to the savagery of October 7th and before.'

http://ace.mu.nu/archives/407473.php

 

Yep, but I know that that's not going to happen so I just have to deal with it.

 

That would assume those people are like you. Do you always assume people are reasonable, rational and act like you? If so, you haven’t been paying attention

 

I hope you wouldn't bomb entire cities and kill peope indiscriminately, including the people taken hostage.
Shool shootings and hostage taking happens in the USA pretty often, and I've not heard of many times where the response was to simply blow up the school.

 

I don't feel a need to dehumanize or declare 2 million people to be irrational, no.

 

Does that include Vietnam, Nagasaki, Hiroshima, Afghanistan, Syria, Germany?
Or is it only bad when Israel does it?

If you don't want a war, don't start one.
If you are in a war zone, leave the war zone
If terrorist are using you as bait, kill the terrorist

You hold Israel under different terms of war than anyone else on the planet.
Why is that?

Why would you think blowing up a school to get a single shooter is in any way a comparison to going after thousands in a warzone?

 

Fake news. The IDF are not killing people indiscriminately.

Maher: "It's Hard To Negotiate When The Other Side's Position Is - You All Die And Disappear"

"They're here, they like their bagel with a shmear, get used to it..."

"Things change. Countries, boundaries, empires," said Maher, citing various historical instances where other groups of people accepted regional defeat and moved on. "In 1950, the little town of Bethlehem was 86 percent Christian, now it's overwhelmingly Muslim."

"Look at what Mexico used to own... but no Mexican is out there chanting, 'From the Rio Grande to Portland, Oregon.'"

Don't give them any ideas!

 

And yet there are millions of people who act irrationally. Know what a mob is? Do you think mobs will act in a way you can predict by looking at your rational self in a mirror and projecting that self onto them? How about cults? How about extreme religious ideologies? How about going back through time and knowing about all the crazy that has happened all across time and region?

I have no idea how you can have any idea of the world you live in and think everyone thinks like you do in every circumstance in every region in every culture such that you can’t even comprehend how a group of people can act irrationally.

I can only conclude that you simply don’t know anything of the world

You need to learn it before talking like you do

 

Sure, if they bomb cities because terrorists there have taken hostages.

First, there is no war. There was a horrid terrorist attack followed by a completely one sided slaughter of a population in a penned in area.

Sure. Maybe they can move to Tel Aviv? Oh wait...

Is that what you tell the hostages taken by Hamas?
They should simply kill Hamas and go home? Easy peasy?

No, I don't.

This is far more similar to a terrorist attack and hostage taking at a school than it is similar to a war.

 

I rarely encounter straw men quite this inflated and do not have a response for you, other than to repeat that I do not see a need to dehumanize 2 million people and presume them all to be irrational. Could many of them be, sure. As could many on the opposite side. So what? That's no reason to presume that they are or to treat them as such.

 

The Palestinian leadership supported by the Palestinian population uses and directs Hamas for terror.
Hamas attacks civilians in Israel and uses civilians as human shields.
Hamas executes Israeli civilian hostages in the streets, rapes the women, and hides hostages in tunnels
Palestine hides Hamas among their population and allows them to institute terror against civilians in Israel and Palestine
Palestine publicly claims they will murder every Jew they can find and supports, arms, and directs Hamas.
Palestinians use worldwide terrorism to promote their interests

Israel treats Hamas the same way we treat ISIS.
Kill them all including their supporters and the people who hide them.
Its called a war.

Israel also provides sanctuary for Palestinian refuges.

So instead of coming in here declaring your limited knowledge on what a war is, I suggest finding out more about Palestine's genocidal claims towards Israel and their history of attacks upon Israel without provocation.

To include how we deal with terrorist like ISIS as well.
Then you can stop your uneducated support of terrorist like Hamas and their Palestinian leaders because you think they are being treated unfairly. I hope they wipe them from the face of the earth for the ruthless murdering s*** eating animals they are.

 

That's pretty rich, given that the IDF is basically carrying out a genocide in Gaza as we speak. And without provocation is also pretty rich, given how Palestinians are treated by Israel in both Gaza and the west bank. Hamas is a terrorist organization. Israel is an oppressive state and apartheid regime towards Palestinians. Both of these are true. It is also true that Israel as jewish state was founded in large part through terrorism. Some misguided palestinians (who aren't all of them) appear to be attempting to follow that example.

I don't support Hamas. That's projection on your part.

 

Oh do tell us what you know about the historical Israeli treatment of Palestine.
Can't wait to hear this

In 1517, the Ottoman Empire conquered the region, ruling it until the British conquered it in 1917. The region was ruled under the British Mandate for Palestine until 1948, when the Jewish State of Israel was proclaimed in part of the ancient land of Israel.
Did you want to explain again how the Jewish state was founded through terrorism?
You listen to way too much fake media or you just like making up claims.

Lets take a look at how the Jewish Israeli state is so oppressive

When you falsify information about Israel, you are supporting Hamas.

 

whatever the hell “dehumanize” means, no doubt blissfully ignorant of Hamas’ magnitudes greater dehumanizing tactics.

love how you don’t know basic facts of the Palestinians such that their extremism and irrationality is a “presumption” to you. Ties in quite nicely with you projecting your rationality onto any group of people you feel like based on nothing at all

https://www.dailywire.com/news/pale...ks-but-deny-hamas-war-crimes-palestinian-poll



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