NFL Announces ‘Black National Anthem’ Will Be Performed at Super Bowl

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  1. Kal'Stang

    Kal'Stang Well-Known Member

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    No, its not BS. Its literally how human civilization has been for as long as there has been human civilization. It is why a socialist utopia can never be achieved. It is why equity can never be achieved. It is why some people are faster than others. Stronger than others. Smarter than others. Better looking than others. Richer than others. Fed better than others. Worked less than others.

    It is literally how life works. Even in nature. As the old saying goes... "Life is not fair."
     
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    Okay, clearly you don’t pay attention to sht at all because it’s been said over and over and over again that the song is nicknamed the black anthem because it’s been that way for more than a century, not something that just happened yesterday.

    As for why it’s needed, well it’s a black pride and culture thing and part of their history, and it really doesn’t fcking matter whether you think it’s needed or not or how you feel.
     
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    I'm going to skip it. If you watch, your adding to the game's ratings. And if you're adding to the game's ratings, you're inadvertently supporting it.
     
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    And all those people died all the same as a testament to just how awful humanity has historically been to other peoples. Slavery with extra food is still fcking slavery, bruh.
     
  5. Kal'Stang

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    Yep, it was bad all right. Doesn't change the fact that some had it better than others. Even among slaves some had it better than other slaves. Simply saying "Slavery with extra food is still fcking slavery, bruh" does not change that fact. Life is not black and white.
     
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    I admit I have never heard it, and don't care to. It may be a beautiful song about unity. But it is being pushed as the "black national anthem" and that is the problem. If it was simply pushed as "The song of peace and unity" it wouldn't be a problem.
     
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    Again, slavery with extra food is still slavery. Slavery with slightly less work is still slavery. A slave plantation with under a hundred slaves is still a slave plantation. Putting lipstick on a pig doesn’t change the fact that it’s still a pig, and trying to compared horrible conditions with slightly better or slightly worse things doesn’t do the people involved in them any good.
     
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    And it no longer needs to be called that or used as if the circumstances are the same today as they were when it was first made.

    Sorry, but that is not why its being played. Its being played as "an acknowledgement of the systemic struggle for equality of Black people in the U.S.". Sorry but as has already been pointed out, they already have equality in the US. LINK for the quoted part: What is the Black national anthem? Here's why the NFL plays 'Lift Every Voice and Sing' before games | Sporting News

    Such an explanation does not stand as valid. As such, its nothing more than divisive to use it as an anthem.
     
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    Kneeling is a disgrace to the National Anthem but January 6 was just a kegger gone bad.
     
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    Never said otherwise. That is the part that you don't seem to get. You can acknowledge that something was bad, while also acknowledging that some had it better than others. The two are not mutually exclusive. A slave that was treated like a human being, (never beaten, never lacked for anything, was never yelled at or threatened), but was still a slave, was still a slave and that was horrible. But that slave still had it better than a slave who was treated like a dog. Common sense should allow you to acknowledge this simple fact, without compromising your stance that slavery was horrible. It sure doesn't in mine.
     
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    Has anyone informed you that the first slave owner in America was black? The people who captured the slaves were black. The people who sold them were black. And there's still slavery on this planet south of our border and in Asia?

    Instead of bitching about the past which can't be changed, why don't ********* about modern day slavery? You won't because doing so would be racist.
     
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    Interesting, so you admit then that taking a knee during the national anthem is disrespectful... Baby steps....
     
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    No, I meant what I said, not something else.

    Its weird that when someone says something, you always come in to claim they said something totally different.
     
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    This always struck me, whenever the topic of reparations for slavery comes up, and I hear people say it should be based on race rather than on having been a slave, including all black people and excluding modern ex-slaves.
     
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    So, explain your words then. You suggested that I could "take a knee" during the black national anthem. Ok, why? Explain what "taking a knee" means to you. So, you wrote these words. You infer a negative connotation to them as a snarky way to invoke the image of a pretentious slug like Kapernik. who knelt during the US National Anthem in protest and disgust. But when you wrote it to me, you didn't mean it that way? Laughable.
     
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    No, it's a song of spiritual uplifting.
     
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    The one's with the bigger problem are those that think this song is a divider of the country.
    It's actually uniting more than it divides. That's why the NFL is now having it sung for the 4th SB in a row.
    They seek to unite people. And an increasing viewership of NFL games shows they are correct.
     
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    Then pretend it's just a song to uplift people's spirits. And not what the media calls it.
     
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    He only won a Super Bowl. Being so bad.
     
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    No they don't know it's played. Most aren't really tuning in until kick off.
    I don't think anyone under the age of 40 even cares. So, they don't have to tolerate anything. It's just a song to uplift people's spirits.
     
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    I have heard no one say it. Left or right. Maybe it's just the people you associate with.

    Of course the NFL is playing it to bring attention to bring light to racial discrimination issues. Afterall, it started the year Floyd was murdered. By a white cop. That's the social inequality the NFL wants to highlight. Good for them.

    When you walk a mile in a black person's life, then you may have some standing of what you have vs what they have.
     
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    No one else on the team gets credit? And like I said earlier, as a starter he lost more games than he won.
     
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    And there you have it folks, blacks can only be victims. And they say everyone else stereotypes, labels people or is just plain racist. Ben Carson had a school named after him, but when he joined Trump's team the school changed it. Was that racist and where was the 'all blacks are victims' folks then?
     
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    Oh, now you want to deflect away from anything of substance that's been brought up in this thread about crass 'identity politics' and the theatrical nature of a 'Black national anthem', to attack me instead? Fine -- have at it! And I'll be the first to admit that I didn't graduate from college ranked as Summa Cum Laude, but, hey, I did "OK".... :lol:

    Uh, no Dairy, Colin Kaepernick didn't win a Super Bowl, although 'back in the day', he was a 'hot-stuff' quarterback for sure! No, unfortunately for him and the SF 49ers, in Super Bowl XLVII, they lost to the Baltimore Ravens. After that, his football career went fairly rapidly downhill, so, he took up 'political activism' instead. Link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colin...Kaepernick (/ˈk,National Football League (NFL).
     
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    That would be a good response if it was just the media calling it that and it wasn't the NFL calling it that and explicitly using it for that purpose.
     
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