Putin says past U.S. elections were rigged

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Putin says past U.S. elections were rigged
Reuters
Tue, January 16, 2024 at 10:02 AM CST

(Reuters) - Russian President Vladimir Putin, running for a new six-year term in an election that his opponents say is a parody of democracy, said on Tuesday that past U.S. elections had been rigged by postal voting.

"In the United States, previous elections were falsified through postal voting ... they bought ballots for $10, filled them out, and threw them into mailboxes without any supervision from observers, and that's it," Putin said, without providing evidence.

... https://news.yahoo.com/putin-says-past-u-elections-160219651.html​

It's noteworthy that he is choosing to repeat Trump's favorite conspiracy theory, the one about mail-in ballots. It is also interesting to see him be so explicit about it now. He has long been courting right-wing Americans in various more subtle ways, but now he's just kind of putting it all out there.

 

Well, that settles it then.

Any question about whether the elections were rigged have now been answered. They were not.

It would probably be more concerning if Putin had said they WEREN'T rigged.

 

In before Trump supporters start claiming he's right

 

They don't seem to be too interested in this topic. How strange.

 

There is some evidence but since it has never been investigated it doesn't matter. Putin doesn't know anything about American elections that the U.S. media don't.

 

"they bought ballots for $10,"
Well thats not how it works, but...
"filled them out, and threw them into mailboxes without any supervision from observers" is true, thats how voting has worked in my state (WA) for all the 15 years I've lived here.

 

Putin trying to help Trump spread his lies, Putin wants Trump to win

 

There is no evidence. All investigations have shown it is bull ****. Come back when you have real evidence. Until then, you guys are on the same level as Holocaust deniers, 9/11 truthers, and flat earthers. You have the same level of "evidence" and the same excuses when you fail.

 

I believe it’s the easiest place to commit voter fraud for sure. However I don’t believe there has ever been enough voter fraud to overturn the electoral college. Not a chance in hell. It would have to be a huge operation and someone would end up talking if something of that scale was attempted

 

You are seriously claiming there are no cameras on the voting drop boxes in your state? And no observers? Really? Where's your source?

 

You can't quote a single investigation because there has never been one. There have been count audits, not investigations of voter fraud. None. Zero. Why do I continue to have to say this after years of asking for a single report. There is no report. There have been no investigations of voter fraud. Sorry you are simply misinformed. Tell this stuff to other people. I know better.

 

You think voter fraudsters would own up to their fraud? Really? Not a chance in hell. The truth is we don't know if there was enough voter fraud to affect the election results because voter fraud hasn't been investigated. I tend to agree that there probably was not enough fraud but "not a chance in hell" is a stretch.

 

There have been many, many, many investigations into voter fraud. I'm sorry you are simply misinformed. But, hey, you know better than evidence does, so have fun with your fantasy.

 

Of course. Him and Trump are working to undermine American faith in our democracy, traditions and institutions.

 

My ballot shows up in the mail. I fill it out in my house. I walk across the street and past the library and put it in the metal ballot box in the alley behind city hall, next to the emergency generator that runs every sunday and is just perfectly positioned against the back wall of city hall to direct its loud noise to reverberate my livingroom window when it runs once a week or so, or any time the power goes out. If there's cameras, I can't see them, and given how everything else in my town works, I doubt they'd be functioning if there are. There's definitely no observers, they would be pretty obvious standing there in the otherwise empty alley between city hall and the library all day... maybe they figure since city hall is also the police station, that counts as 'observed'? But none of our 3 cops go back there much, their parking is on the other side of the building.

 

The ballots, mail-in and otherwise, have been reviewed and recounted to death. No evidence of widespread fraud has been found.

Only America's enemies, foreign and domestic, claim otherwise.

 

And your ballot showed up to where you registered. No where else. So for someone to use your ballot to cheat, they'd need to know you weren't going to vote and they'd need access to your mailbox. And, sorry, but the majority of these dropboxes, if not all of them, have cameras on them. NO evidence of mass voter fraud in the US has been found. The people parroting this talking point to Trump supporters on this forum are liars.

 

No one has ever witnessed me fill out my ballot (except possibly my stepdaughter who lives here, tho I doubt she was paying attention), checked my ID to see if I am who I say I am or contacted me regarding my ballot. There's my signature on it of course... how much analysis do you suppose goes into confirming that the signature on my ballot matches my signature, and what would they use to check it against? There's no method I'm aware of that the state of WA would be able to use to determine whether or not my ballot was actually filled out and delivered by me, and afaik thats how it works for everyone in the state.

 

My stepdaughter's ballot shows up at our PO Box as well (no mail delivery in my town). If I filled hers out and sent it in, she likely wouldn't know. How many people can be registered to a single mailing address?

 

Of course Putin claims our elections are rigged.
It was his rigging of the 2016 election that put Trump into the White House.

 

Don't forget "The October Surpise".

 

1. Putin did not "rig" the 2016 election. Russia ran a propaganda campaign to benefit Trump and hurt Hillary.
2. It is impossible to say how much of an effect that interference had on the 2016 election. Would Trump have won anyway? No way to know

The fact that Putin wanted Trump to win and Hillary to loose should make everyone at least question, WHY?

 

Putin might be a despot, but this time he's right. It must be true, I heard it on the radio news a few years ago. But since it was Democrats doing it, it was hushed up. However, it was discovered that Democrats were paying voters $10 each to let them fill out ballots for them.

 

No.
The Russian's hack into voting machine's and changed votes from Clinton to Trump.
The NSA and FBI have the evidence, but they are never going to let it go public.

Why do you think the Trump administration was pushing the Hugo Chavez method of elections in 2020? You know, changing votes via electronic voting machines.
Because they knew that that is how Putin gave Trump the election in 2016.

 

The thing about how the election system was carried out is it's difficult to prove it did not happen.


We could of course have a discussion about whether the election in Ukraine was rigged, and what role the U.S. might have had in that, something that Putin did touch upon.