Trump says he would encourage Russia to ‘do whatever the hell they want’ to any NATO country that do

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  1. Woolley

    Woolley Well-Known Member

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    Trump thinks he is a mob boss running a protection racket. The man is completely deranged and should never, ever have power again. I don't care if you like his policies or not, he is one sick SOB, find someone else to give rich people more tax cuts and treat minorities and women like chattel. Teach Nikki to be as cruel as you like but for the sake of our nation and the world, do not elect Trump again.
     
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    Darthcervantes Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    3 words
    PAY YOUR BILLS!
     
  3. Bearack

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    The largest redistribution of wealth back to the top 1% was under the Biden Administration. The wealth gap grew exponentially under the Democrats.
     
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    I suggest that you refer to Sun Tzu and Carl van Clauswitz, The Art of War and On War, respectively. They describe the conditions with occupation, as the US was in Iraq and Vietnam as well as Russia in Afghanistan.
     
  5. Arkanis

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    LoL

    What you're saying is totally untrue.

    The Trump-Kim summit took place in June 2018.

    After that, there were at least 11 missile tests before Biden took office.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_North_Korean_missile_tests

    MAGA !
     
  6. mdrobster

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    Not according to general data.
    https://www.shippingsolutions.com/blog/top-us-exports
    1. Gasoline and Other Fuels
    2. Crude Petroleum
    3. Liquified Natural Gas (LNG) and Other Natural Gases
    4. Civilian Aircraft Parts
    5. Passenger Vehicles
     
  7. fullmetaljack

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    Coming from the Orange Stain that is hugely ironic: 6 bankruptcies and working on a 7th because of his fraudulent business practices.

    Rules for thee but not me ?
     
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    We are at war....not physically with boots on the ground....but we are at war politically,psychologically, economically, with the Mafioso RuZzkis.....Putler has declared war on the West/EU/US /NATO back in 2014 yet.
     
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    Trump is not A COUNTRY, get real! Last I check, Trump doesn't pay NATO dues.
     
  11. TheImmortal

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    That doesn't answer my question. Just because a country or an area is a strategic advantage for the USA doesn't mean that we need to pay wholesale for their protection. Can we pay some since it's in our interests? Absolutely but if you simply take care of them without them kicking in, they become your dependent and we don't need more dependents.
     
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    So we should take his advice on policy regarding COUNTRIES (even though he has no experience) but disregard his advice on ECONOMIC policy, which effects COMPANIES, because he doesn't pay his bills.

    Got it.
     
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    Maybe you should read what you provide. The only missiles Kim fired under Trump were short range. Not on the (do not fire) list.

    But had you read your own claim, you would have known Kim has begun firing ballistic missiles again under Biden.

    Thanks for confirming
     
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    In full agreement, Putin took advantage of the Tea Party, the racial divisions in America due to Obama being in the WH and exploited it. In addition, he's destabilized many poor countries, with food and oil, and is using mass migration to push that divide to destabilize Democracies.
     
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    A really good take on what Trump actually said vs the lies and mischaracterizations written in the OP.

    Notice how the anti-Trumpers ALWAYS lie? Lies are all the TDS sufferers have.

     
  16. Arkanis

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    Explain 'wholesale' to me.

    Which NATO country relies 100% on US protection?

    France and the UK also have atomic bombs and highly effective armies.

    Germany will also have one in the near future.
     
  17. Arkanis

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    LoL.

    Short-range nuclear missiles (-500 km) didn't count.

    Why didn't you say so?

    But it seems that Trump hasn't scared Kim enough to stop testing his missiles altogether.

    Do you know why NK has always invested huge sums in its weapons?

    Because its leaders are afraid of us.

    The border is one of the most militarized in the world, and the alliance with South Korea is solid.

    While the South has developed into a global economic force, the North has remained in the Stone Age.

    And although successive Kims have wished one day to invade the South, they've never been able to.

    This proves that the strategy put in place by US administrations over the last 40 years has worked.
     
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    I'm not gonna get into the fundamentals of billionaire banking with you. They play the system with bankruptcy. You act like he's the first rich person to do it. Very funny
     
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    BTW there are three metrics each NATO member are supposed to meet and Donald Trump specifically was talking about one of them. The first is the 2% target of two percent of GDP being spent on each nation's military, the second is the 20% figure where 20% of that 2% is supposed to be spent annually on new equipment procurement, and then their is the direct cash payments every member is supposed to pay to NATO directly. The direct cash payments are supposed to be used for 1) the building and maintenance of command and control infrastructure as well as the construction and maintenance of roads, railways, ports, and canals (as well as airfields) NATO needs in order to support war time and operational needs at the front.

    Most leftists lied back when Trump made these original comments and ignored that third requirement. When Trump referred to his discussion with the former NATO commander he was specifically talking about the third requirement.
     
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    True....but as this drags out....I'm thinking down the line if things start to go south....we may have no choice BUT...to put some boots on the ground or other resources.

    We're not there....yet, and hopefully it doesn't come to that.
     
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    Sorry, only leftist propaganda providers who know nothing of reality, fact, or history promote that garbage.
    Maybe you should spend more time researching instead of just regurgitating old propaganda over your own Trumpism.

    While Obama sent Iran 1.8 million in a plane load of cash, Trump negotiated the return of 3 US prisoners from Korea without paying a dime.

    Clinton’s administration provided $4 billion worth of nuclear, energy, economic and diplomatic benefits in exchange for the halting of North Korea’s nuclear program in 1994.

    In 2007, Obama made an agreement to send $400 million worth of fuel, food and other aid in exchange for North Korea shutting down its main nuclear reactor.

    In 2012 Obama folded when new leader Kim Jong Un agreed to halt nuclear tests in exchange for million more in aid, but still continued their nuclear weapons testing after getting yet more millions from Obama.

    In 2014 Kim started more nuclear missile testing.

    While the weak leftist ridiculous whine about Trump being in love with Kim, Trump threatened him with “fire and fury like the world has never seen.
    Then sent a carrier task force down the coast of North Korea and flew bomber missions down his coast line.

    But according to you, that means Trump loves Kim? You guys are so predictable.

    In June of 2018, Kim Jong Un became the first North Korean leader to meet a sitting U.S. president, a feat neither his father nor his grandfather ever achieved. And Kim ceased testing long range ballistic missiles without paying any money to NK.
     
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    Lies and misrepresentationsn are usually all the left has. It is their bread and butter.
     
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  23. Condor060

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    They were not nuclear. Now you're just making up garbage.
    The agreement was to stop their nuclear program and long range ballistic missile testing.

    But lets compare, shall we.

    While Obama sent Iran 1.8 million in a plane load of cash, Trump negotiated the return of 3 US prisoners from Korea without paying a dime.

    Clinton’s administration provided $4 billion worth of nuclear, energy, economic and diplomatic benefits in exchange for the halting of North Korea’s nuclear program in 1994.

    In 2007, Obama made an agreement to send $400 million worth of fuel, food and other aid in exchange for North Korea shutting down its main nuclear reactor.

    In 2012 Obama folded when new leader Kim Jong Un agreed to halt nuclear tests in exchange for million more in aid, but still continued their nuclear weapons testing after getting yet more millions from Obama.

    In 2014 Kim started more nuclear missile testing.

    While the weak leftist ridiculous whine about Trump being in love with Kim, Trump threatened him with “fire and fury like the world has never seen.
    Then sent a carrier task force down the coast of North Korea and flew bomber missions down his coast line.

    But according to you, that means Trump loves Kim? You guys are so predictable.

    In June of 2018, Kim Jong Un became the first North Korean leader to meet a sitting U.S. president, a feat neither his father nor his grandfather ever achieved. And Kim ceased testing long range ballistic missiles without paying any money to NK.
     
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    If they didn't have that, they wouldn't have anything to post
     
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    Billion not million. Though, technically, it did belong to the old Shah of Iran and had been frozen since 1979.
     

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