Migrants' Monthly Payments Are Higher Than New Yorkers' SNAP Benefits

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  1. Endeavor

    Endeavor Well-Known Member

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    I'm not playing your game where you think you can turn any thread into any other topic you want the thread to be about. This is about tax dollars for illegals, not tax dollars for citizens. You should learn to follow proper forum etiquette and actually comment on the actual topic of the actual thread. Please go make that thread so I can enlighten you on how food stamps is a federally funded program so those tax dollars come from ALL states.
    Now back on topic. In case you forgot, its about tax dollars for ILLEGALS
     
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    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    "Nuh uh" is not a valid argument.

    My position is on solid ground. As a courtesy, I responded to your diversion to legal immigration, even though no one is arguing against legal immigration. Illegal immigration is being renamed to give the impression that these people coming lately are coming for different reasons than a few years ago. I do understand that pronouns are important to those on your side of the debate, so out of respect, I will refer to these illegal immigrants as they/them.
     
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    Your stupid definition means that there are never any illegals, ever.
     
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    You are right. lets not play games.

    I am absolutely fine with my tax $$$ goes to undocumented immigrant. Why do you care where my money goes?
     
  6. The Mello Guy

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    Applying for asylum at a POE is 100% legal. It’s hardly a diversion, you’re the one claiming simply passing through cartel territory, is a benefit to the cartel.
     
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    It isn't YOUR money, it is the money of ALL Americans. If you want to make donations to illegals (out of your own pocket) to help give MS13 members a nice cozy hotel room, that is your call since its YOUR money, those tax dollars are not YOURS. they are as much mine as yours just like my tax dollars are as much yours as they are mine.
    OK....NEXT!
     
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  8. Endeavor

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    No, it is our Money from Blue state. That is what I have been saying past 10 post and you keep insisting I am off topic.

    Money from Bleu state funding all these programs. so we decided where the money goes, no RED states or conservatives. When RED state start funding these programs, we will discuss.
     
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    its only from blue states? Red states don't pay taxes? THAT'S AMAZING! Time for me to move out of NJ. Thank you for this valuable information. Always such an educational experience with you. Much appreciated!
     
  10. Doofenshmirtz

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    And that is why the category has been changed. By learning one simple word, illegal immigrants can make a claim that justifies their actions and politicians who benefits from these actions can get their followers to use this term to defend their extreme levels of irresponsibility. That helps distract from the pain and suffering these poor policies cause. Lets ignore the sex tourism, human trafficking, child exploitation, guns, drugs, extortion and forced servitude and villainize those who oppose illegal immigration.

    Inventing a disease and selling a cure is not a new scam.
     
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    Now we are finally agreeing on something. You see, if you keep talking , at the end we all will find solution.

    I think it is an excellent idea to move out of an ungodly state like NJ and move to good conservative state like Alabama. I hear minimum wages is even below federal minimum wage in AL. If you work 40 hours a week with those wages , you don’t have to pay any taxes at all.
     
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  12. Darthcervantes

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    Thanks but that state is too red for me. I also don't feel that NJ has become too blue yet. Its definitely not like commifornia (yet). Maybe I'll find a nice purple state to move to.
     
  13. Doofenshmirtz

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    I think we already knew that Dems are the party of the wealthy. Its the poor and working class that end up worse off.
     
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    False, someone that illegally crosses the border is illegal — this is completely different than someone that enters at a point of entry and claims asylum

    The amnesty process is a legal avenue that congress has the ability to change

    You just not liking something and calling it stupid might be an effective strategy in grade school or the local maga convention but that’s where it ends.
     
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    The educated, the youth, the non-religious, women…

    Old white religious men are a rapidly declining screaming minority with a death grip on public policy and make up a sizable percentage of our government. Maybe it’s time for them to retire as what they are doing doesn’t seem to be working.
     
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    So legal immigration is really illegal and somehow the cartel benefits, but you still pretend you didn’t claim legal immigration benefits the cartel.
    Cool.
     
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    I fully understand the position of saying one word makes what THEY are doing "legal". Lets run with your example and let in everyone who learns that new word. What results can we expect?
     
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    Always changing the subject to avoid dealing with the reality of what you’re claiming.
     
  19. Doofenshmirtz

    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The subject is illegal immigration and the incentives from your party. I answered your claim directly and simply don't buy that these people are coming for different reasons than those from a few years ago. Other than learning one new word while paying the cartels toll, can you point out a difference?
     
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    No, it was legal immigration….as you eventually agree. So again we should not allow legal immigration because ….cartels?
     
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    You are dodging a simple question. What is the difference between those coming in a few years ago and those coming with the new word today?
     
  22. The Mello Guy

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    They are following all us laws and not being coyoted in. At least the ones I’m talking about, some still sneak in and then claim asylum. And I don’t dispute that if they sneak in, they are likely enriching the cartel to sneak in, but definitely not all of them.
     
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    Welfare use begets more welfare use
    Most claim asylum whether they are eligible or not. They do so knowing it will automatically buy them time.
     
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    I am curious why you are avoiding the simple question I asked. Do you really believe there is a difference between the people and their motives prior to the new word we were fed to justify what is happening? You also left the other question unaddressed; what results can we expect if we allow everyone who learned this new word in?
     
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    I’m not going to answer your off topic questions while you ignore mine.
     

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