Israel Shooting Those Waiting for Food Aid

Gazan civilians are the vicitims of Hamas. Hamas is responsible for all the deaths in Gaza. Hamas has turned the Gaza Strip into a hell hole for Gazan civilians.

 

Fake news. Israel is dropping those bombs on civilians, not Hamas.

And you didn't answer the question. Why do you hate Palestinians?

 

The above is an example of a faith based narrative in which facts don't matter. Israel left in 2005 leaving the PA in control. Hamas took control of the legislature via election and then took total control in a violent coup. It's a waste of time to engage.

 

Nope, it is exactly like I said. Israel propped up Hamas, ensuring that the PA would not have a chance of ruling in Gaza. Netanyahu called on the support of Hamas, as Hamas was the gift that kept on giving, giving Israel an excuse to dominate Gaza.
It was a divide and conquer strategy.

 

Thanks for making my point. Good luck.

 

It’s beyond belief what Israel has done with the full support of the US government. This has to be one of the most shameful actions ever taken by our government, and shameful acts are common throughout our history.

 

Hahahahahahahaha. WOW! Too funny.

 

Do you know the number of Pali civilians murdered and maimed since 10/7? Even the US government controlled media has reported numbers. Do know them?

I’m certain you know the number Hamas killed on 10/7.

 

No, Hamas gained control because it won an election. Israel had nothing to do with it. Learn from history.

 

Because Israel facilitated a **** ton of money to be transferred to Hamas through Qatar, ensuring that Hamas would be able to build schools, hospitals, fix infrastructure, etc, allowing them to gain overwhelming support before the election. This was part of Israel's strategy to get Hamas in power, and also ensure the PA did not rule in Gaza. They did not want the same government to rule both the West Bank and Gaza, because it would be easier to keep them subjugated if they were divided.

 

Not correct.

 

Foreign Zionist terrorist gangs began murdering Palestinians and stealing their land 80 years ago and so their genocidal agenda is well documented.

I've repeatedly asked apologists for Zionist genocide to name just one brutally occupied people who have not resisted their criminal occupiers but have only heard crickets ever since.

Thanks,

 

The existing government of Gaza had been found to be crooked beyond belief.

The people didn't have a good government to vote for. They voted their existing government out.

Now, you and Israel want to believe that makes every civilian of every age a legitimate target for the IDF.

It's time to find a moral compass.

 

One might wonder if the PA government was actually as corrupt as claimed.

In the end, it wasn't that difficult to vote for the promise that Hamas presented.

 

Do you also post on US message board?

I was just banned there again for my opposition to Israel’s genocide. Fourth ban since the genocide started. This time for two weeks. Never banned before in nearly 12 years of posting there.

 

Stop telling me what I want. What I want now is an end to this conversation. I'm tired of it.

 

Did you think I wasn't going to respond to your posts?

What's going on is genocide. I'm certainly going to oppose that.

 

1. There is and was no way Israel (given its inherent weaknesses) could win a successful insurgency war in Gaza. Or even establish effective military control over a populated urban setting against a well trained and sufficiently equipped resistance force. For Israel to achieve anything resembling its declared war aims, it would need Gaza depopulated. Its residents either killed, starved or pushed out of Gaza. Hence, from early in the conflict, it was clear that Israel's deliberate tactics in this war will, and has been, to cause massive civilian casualties and damage in lieu of its inability to achieve any tangible or lasting military gains against Hamas.
2. The above were well known and understood facts admitted by every serious non political or polemical assessment by western intelligence and military analysts. The rest is in the nature of nauseating propaganda. The kind that has completely taken over western political discourse and media coverage in this age of lies.
3. Every country that stood by Israel, supported it, financed and armed it, is complicit in the deliberate genocide and ethnic cleansing Israel attempted in Gaza. Now, most western politicians are spineless cowards and moral eunuchs. Some may have felt that Israel can be given leeway to commit partial genocide to assuage its anger but can be reigned in thereafter. But the problem even with that was predictable from the outset. Netanyahu knows the minute this war is over, he will be out of more than just his job. Hence, Netanyahu and the entire Israeli establishment are focused on finding ways to unleash bigger wars that ultimately drag the US in the fighting. That they hope will prove to be their "get out of jail" card.
4. In the meantime, the assessment by some 60 US intelligence agencies is that Israel will not be able to neutralize Hamas' military infrastructure and tunnels, predicting that Hamas will remain a fighting force for years to come. Iran's assessment, otoh, can be gleaned through a speech yesterday by Iran's Supreme leader, where he mentioned that 90% of Hamas' military capability and forces remain intact. Imagine any lasting ceasefire and no new wars for Israel. How will Israeli leaders and their mouthpieces explain the predicament Israel finds itself facing when the one thing they were had a clear consensus through their lies and propaganda at the outset of this war was that Hamas must be "destroyed"?
5. Long way to explain why there will be no real ceasefire, there will be a lot more innocent kids dying, a lot more attempts to pin the blame on the ones with the least clout in the west politically, and probably at some point the bigger war the Israelis and their mouthpieces have been pushing for all along.

 

You're right that Gaza's government is corrupt but so is Netanyahu(1) and any government that tolerates Zionist genocide in Gaza is more corrupt than a government that has "financial irregularities"

Israel also has the most UN Resolution violations, a blatantly corrupt PM and a decades old genocide but that doesn't stop AIPAC's ability to extract $ Trillions (2) from working Americans.

Finally, you are also right about IDF's practice of targeting children (3) so there really isn't anything like a "Human Shield" as far as IDF is concerned.

It is a tragic irony that the same country that only exists because of the widely publicized and crassly exploited Holocaust is currently being further enriched by US taxpayers to carry out a genuine genocide.

Thanks,


(1). "Netanyahu corruption trial resumes, as war rages on"
https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/04/world/netanyahu-corruption-trial-resumes/index.html

EXCERPT "Netanyahu’s corruption trial first began in January 2020, making him the first sitting Israeli prime minister to appear in court as a defendant, on trial for charges of fraud, breach of trust and bribery. He denies any wrongdoing." CONTINUED


(2). "The Costs to American Taxpayers of the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict: $3 Trillion"
https://www.wrmea.org/003-june/the-...israeli-palestinian-conflict-$3-trillion.html
By Thomas R. Stauffer

EXCERPT "Similarly, aid to Israel—and thus the regional total—also is understated, since much is outside of the foreign aid appropriation process or implicit in other programs. Support for Israel comes to $1.8 trillion, including special trade advantages, preferential contracts, or aid buried in other accounts. In addition to the financial outlay, U.S. aid to Israel costs some 275,000 American jobs each year."CONTINUED


[3] “Video Shows IDF Snipers Shooting Palestinian Children For Fun, But Facebook Won’t Let You Share It”
https://kalamu.com/neogriot/2014/09...n-for-fun-but-facebook-wont-let-you-share-it/

EXCERPT “Footage released on YouTube clearly shows Israeli soldiers firing live rounds at Palestinian children playing on a roof in Al Khalil, an area of Hebron in Occupied Palestine. An important piece of evidence attesting to the brutality of Israeli occupation. Yet, Facebook users have reported that the social media platform is preventing them from sharing the video.” CONTINUED

 

True - my point included that at the time of Hamas winning their election, citizens of Gaza were given the choice between their current government, which was seriously corrupt, or Hamas.


I don't believe Israel gets to kill Palestinian civilians for voting the wrong way.

 

You just need to go looking for some to oppose.

 

Is opposing genocide unacceptable or foolish in your mind?

 

No but finding some where none exists is unacceptable and foolish.

 

Agreed, but some dumb Americans think that’s an appropriate reason to mass murder Palestinians.

Proof establishment propaganda works on some.

 

Is there a genocide going on right now in Gaza?