What election interference?

Trump was ordered to pay an astounding $365 million judgement in his recent civil trial in Judge Engoron's Star Chamber. This presumably goes to the State of NY since there were no defrauded victims in this fraud case and it was brought by AG and chief persecutor of NY James, who campaigned explicitly of getting Trump -- you know, show me the man and I'll find you the crime. Trump of course is appealing this outrageous verdict and penalty, but the court ruled he had to post a bond to cover the $365 million just to file an appeal and put a hold on the judgement or the judgement would be executed even as his appeal progressed. With interest this bond is now up to $464 million. Trump has said repeatedly he cannot make the bond. He has until about March 25 to make it or break it -- a little Kafkaesque thrown in for good measure. Now he says he cam come up with $500 million in cash but has to dip into his 2024 campaign funds.

If this is not a weaponized Justice department blatantly and autocratically interfering in an election, I do not know what the hell is. It is as subtle as an out of control train wreck. But then that is the whole idea behind this tactic of the purge.

 

So, in other words, what you're saying is that if he stood in the middle of 5th Avenue and shot some random stranger, it would be election interference to put him in prison, right?

 

Your analogy is ridiculous, bordering on sublime. If you can't distinguish between someone actually shooting someone on the street and a sham prosecution with no victims then I can't help.

 

No, he's saying that the NY civil trial is election interference.

 

Yes, the New York City judge is doing all he can to break one of the presidential candidates and determine the outcome of the 2024 election. He should not be allowed to do this, but the court system in New York and for many other areas in this country has become a totally corrupt political animal.

The people who think this cool should bear in mind that respect for the Justine System is eroding as we speak. If the Justice System loses respect, it will lose a lot of its power.

"All rise when the judge enters the count room!" To hell with that. I'll sit it out if the judge is like this guy who has become a tyrant and a dictator.

And guess what? I am a very reluctant Trump supporter. I am not MAGA at all. The principle is what matters here.

 

So if he TRIES to shoot somebody in the middle of 5th Avenue, and misses, it would be "election interference" because there were no victims?

Of course, it's not true that there were no victims. There were MANY victims. If banks had known the true value of Trump's properties, they would have charged a higher interest rate, for example. And in many other ways. But the argument is ridiculous. He is punished so he doesn't try to do it again. Just like he might try to shoot a random stranger in the middle of 5th Avenue, if he's not punished for it. And next time, he might get away with it.

 

You're just trying to muddy the waters...lol

 

How dare you accuse our own government of election interference... We have the most secure election system in the world.....

How soon we forget...""Stop whining" ...""There is no serious person out there who would suggest somehow that you could even rig America’s elections, in part because they’re so decentralized and the numbers of votes involved,""

 

You're hopeless. If someone gets shot at, he is a victim. DUH!

There was not one bank or finance company that said they were duped, misled, or victimized let alone defrauded. In fact they asserted the opposite. Large banks know infinitely better how to value properties than the silly judge and the vindictive persecutor.

 

Is investigating the Biden's election interference or is that different?

 

There was no interference to Biden's running for president in 2020.

 

Answer the question.

 

OK, I'll play along. No, "investigating" (whatever that is) the Biden election is not interference.

 

Not a Star Chamber. A court of law in which Trump was given every opportunity to defend himself. An opportunity he seemed more interested using to attack the judge and his clerk. He lost the case based on the evidence of his guilt. A fact members of The Following have difficulty accepting.

 

Then neither is investigating trump.

 

Posting a bond in order to appeal a verdict is required by NY state law. It has nothing to do with a ruling by the judge.

 

Why did you think I was talking about 2020? Perhaps I didn't express myself clearly; I am talking about now. There has been an ongoing investigation by the Republicans in the House of Representatives for over a year. Is that election interference?

 

Perhaps you are correct, but the big difference is that the courts found Trump liable twice and therefore he has the same responsibilities as you or I, there is no legal precedent for anyone not having to pay a penalty because they are running for office. The same rules apply to the former President as they do to you or to me.

 

Please pay attention. NOBODY got shot. There is no victim. In fact, the intended target might not even have been aware that they were shot at. My point is that you are trying to defend a very imaginative legal theory according to which if a criminal FAILS to harm somebody, they haven't committed a crime. Feel free to modify the scenario in any way you want to eliminate ad-hoc excuses. But DO address my point.

It doesn't matter what they SAY. What anybody "says" can be manipulated. Especially by a powerful billionaire with no scruples. The reason it's a crime is not just because the banks SAY it. It's a crime because we don't want it to happen.

 

The truth is that chargers were filed against the fraudster before he became a candidate.

Actually, the investigation into Trump's fraud began years ago, when Trump was still president, after his former fixer Michael Cohen went public with the Trump Organization's accounting practices.

Trump's insistence that he is above the law because he became candidate is without merit. If it were taken seriously, it would mean that every criminal could escape justice by saying he's running for some political office.

 

If Trump tries to shoot somebody in the middle of Times Square and misses, he has still committed a crime.

 

Trump broke the law.

 

Keep on drinking the Kool Aid, you will end up with a one party country, and you freedoms will be gone. The timing of all of these court activity is bloody obvious, but you are so consumed with your love of the Democrat Party that you can't see the truth.

You can dislike this legal garbage and dislike Trump at the same time.

 

Are you talking about how Dems Now Defending Hunter Biden's Influence Peddling? (Turley)

 

so are you saying if people commit crimes and run for office, they are hands-off? can't be held accountable?