Idaho passes laws instituting death penalty for child rapists, outlawing AI-generated child porn

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  1. AmericanNationalist

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    Does it carry a double-edged sword(as your sarcasm illustrates clearly). Yes, of course it does. And so it is a double-edged sword when people have the tech know-how to work a nuclear power plant. But without a clause like that, we'll never know to the best extent we as a society can about the sickness of pedophila.

    We could say cull them and be done with it, but that makes us no different than other regimes of the past. Clearly, we've opted for a different path and a thorough study can help us with the path we're on.
     
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    I think the issue with 2 is the idea that it would lead to either a) normalizing such imagery which leads to bad things and/or b) the idea that it would give an open community of sorts for the chomos to mix with each other and give each other bad ideas.

    The death penalty is going to be the harder hurdle
     
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    Any convicted chomo suffers a fate worse than simple execution in prison.
    By your logic, the treatment they are absolutely certain to suffer in prison if caught should lead them to murder or otherwise cross the line further.

    Doesn't seem to happen that way.
     
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    I oppose the death penalty for various reasons, but I do agree that child rape is a heinous crime. As heinous as any. If they are guilty of the crime they should not be given a change to re-offend.
     
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    Sounds good. Who would tale issues with that?
     
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    While I prefer that child rapists spend many years in prison being raped by other inmates (death is too good for them, imo), perhaps the victimless AI porn will have the effect of satisfying pedophiles enough that they'll leave actual children alone. A girl can dream, right? In any case, censorship is never the answer.

    AI porn is new. Perhaps we shouldn't be so quick to quell it. The reality is that the AI genie is trickling out of the bottle, and we don't seem to have a cohesive plan for how to handle it.
     
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    Are they doing that? Aren't the AI algorithms they use capable of creating faces? If they are generating everything else, why would they need photos of actual kids? I admit that I don't know, I'm just applying logic here.
     
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    That would be too good for them. They should be subjected to years of being on the receiving end first.
     
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    Unfortunately yes.

    https://news.yahoo.com/pasco-teacher-arrested-ai-generated-210121276.html


    "Throughout their investigation, deputies said Houser also admitted to using yearbook photos of three students to generate AI child erotica.

    He was never charged for that, leaving some Pasco County parents concerned."
     
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    I'm thinking that the pedos that are already serving time, or have done their time and are trying to reform, are usually willing to participate.
     
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    They create things by copying and amalgamating things.

    They have a database they pull from, "training images" they're called. Obviously to make realistic children's faces, you need children's faces in your database. That's a bit of an issue.
     
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    moronic idea-if that law passes, that will increase the probability that a child rapist will kill his victim(s).
     
  14. Oldyoungin

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    Whys that?
     
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    well if raping a kid is going to get the death penalty, then murder is a freebie. Look up a non-fiction book called the Onion Field-a movie was made out of it as well
     
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    Death penalty for abusing a child and for generating any type of child porn. It's time to take a stand.
     
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    If they don't use any images of real people, I don't see the harm in and of itself. What about child cartoon porn or cartoon animal porn? As long as I don't have to see it and they don't hurt anyone else, let them let their freak flag fly in the privacy of their own home and let God be their judge. I'm not the morality police. The minute they step out of that pretend world, let the hammer drop and let it drop hard.
     
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    You don’t think AI child porn could encourage people into acting on those urges with real human beings?
     
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    I'm all for physical castration of all of the sex organs and life imprisonment
     
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    Conservatives have been telling us lately that the justice system is corrupt, that innocent individuals are at risk of being convicted.

    Doesn’t that mean the death penalty should be abolished, not expanded?
     
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    See free speech does not have a duty to help anyone. Nor do we typically 'err on the side of caution' with these rights nor decide to do a study on its impact before deciding what to do.. We just protect free speech. There is no sex act in the creation of art absent physical models or actors. There is no victim of criminal conduct if there is no sex act. All you are doing is criminalizing either the production / creation in such speech based soully on its content,, or criminalizing the access/transport based soully on its content, or you are criminalizing the consumption of such speech based soully on its content. At best your 'study' will find some corroration between the product and possible criminal acts based on statistics alone. Lets see if there is a statistical correlation between watching violence in movies, or television possible criminal conduct. Then we can criminalize AI or computor generated productions in film, animation etc.
     
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    Sure.... Let's do away with abortion where 100% of those put to death are innocent
     
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    I'm sorry to say but as of at least 20 years ago... I happen to know that the Florida prison system is absolutely full of sexual offenders including child predators. Now of course there is a difference between child predators and your run of the mill sexual offender which could be as stupid as somebody that got caught urinating in public.... But I would say the average prison was at least 30% sexual offenders
     
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    Deflection noted.

    Care to talk about the appropriateness of the death penalty in the corrupt (according to conservatives) criminal justice system?
     

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