Aid to Gaza suspended after Israel murders World Central Kitchen workers

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  1. Esau

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    Drones would assume it was intentional.
     
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    They weren't well marked. Depending on what they were targeted with, there is no way the markings were identifiable. The strike occurred at night which makes it certain they were targeted using infrared. These markings are invisible to infrared. I'm assuming they were targeted from the air. From what I've seen they were indeed likely targeted by drones.
     
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    That’s not a point, that’s just daydreaming
     
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    I have a question for you and anyone else that keeps making excuses for israel. Just how many 'mistakes' does it take to finally see what the zionist state of israel really is?

    They just flattened a well known Western built hospital full of nothing but civilians. No Hamas, no ****ing tunnels or any of that other made-up bullshit...just civilians.

    When is enough?
     
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    Yes, and Israel has confirmed they were targeted. This doesn't mean they knew the target was what it turned out to be. Obviously they didn't as this hasn't benefited Israel. The markings are not visible in the infrared spectrum. There are paints which emit in the infrared, visible and ultraviolet spectrum. In the future, all such transports should be properly marked. One of the vehicles appears to have been hit with a 2.5 lb mini. Another was hit with a 2.5 lb mini and possibly an additional 5 lb incendiary. Though it isn't fully certain as it could have been ignited by the mini or was burned afterwards for the propaganda purposes. For some reason the convoy was moving fairly slowly or it wasn't a rotary drone. At speed this would have been a skilled strike. It isn't easy to do this at high speeds with a fixed wing mini drone.
     
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    How many mistakes has it been? I assume you have some idea?
     
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    You are correct. Dadoalex is attempting to take the leap from "intentionally targeted" to "intentionally targeted knowing they were aid workers". An important distinction. I think it is pretty clear what transpired.

    Strange thing is, we have a means of preventing just such issues. Perhaps Israel doesn't possess the necessary equipment. In the future perhaps accommodations should be made. We have devices which can identify friend or foe (IFF). I won't go into how they work, but they would provide proper identification beyond a simple sign in the window or on the roof of the vehicle. Of course this assumes the drones (if that is the case) were also equipped with IFF recognition.
     
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    we know this already.
     
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    It's facts. You as a non Jewish person living outside of Israel will not be allowed to live in Israel or Gaza. Therefore you would be an outsider looking in and not have any stature in diplomatic council. iOn the other hand will have stature as iWould be allowed into gaza.

    Your position is compromised and as such have zero influence on this political discussion.
     
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    The most in the history of warfare. The Israeli army is trash and they should give up
     
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    The drone strike assumes that IDF knew aid workers were in the vehicle. The IDF were even radioed after the first strike to stop attacking by the white UK private security team in the second vehicle. The IDF gave a two finger salute to these UK marines and proceeded to blow them up.
     
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    It seems the only reason he even addressed the issue is because there is a LOT (justified) of world condemnation & pressure about this horrific event. It is callous to consider it just an incident in the "fog of war". Seems that humanity has become warped on so many levels now. It is also inhumane to minimize the horror that the people of Gaza are living in now. Aid not being able to get throgu (usually for political reasons).... is almost sadistic. How many have to die as the search for "Hamas" goes on in an effort to assassinate them. At some point both parties are barbaric. Two wrongs don't make a right. Humanity HAS to evolve beyond this kind of conduct. When people are angry 0 due to hurt or some fanatical religious beliefs - their ideology changes to hatred and that creates terrorism. As long as the big issues between Israel and neighbors are not resolved in a mutually civil manner....they can look forward to a lot more war , angst, resentment.. territorial fights..... etc. When religion is involved...the situation is explosive.
     
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    You might want to make sure you properly identify your vehicle beyond a sign in the window. I'm sure I would be welcome in Israel.

    Don't rush off in haste though. I believe Israel still has a ways to go. My guess is they aren't even half way done yet. I'm sure Israel could use much needed delays. Besides, all indications are Hamas still has zero interest is coming to a resolution. Clearly they avidly want this to continue.
     
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    That was a message to tipper. You're getting overly excited now.

    Also you wouldn't be allowed into Israel, they don't allow your kind to live there
     
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    A common refrain from those supporting Israeli terrorists is that Israel thought that the aid workers might be Hamas. Israel supporters believe when Israeli terrorists fire on something that might be Hamas, then that is ok even when it is done recklessly and without regard for life. Even when thousands of innocents are killed in this manner, the supporters of Israel still believe that this is ok. In the end, the Israel supporters will blame the fog of war, Hamas, and even the victims before they blame the IOF.

    I'm stating this because their morality supports murder as long as it is for the "common good". The common good being them and theirs.
     
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    Hasbara agents, volunteers or paid.

    No other humane reason
     
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    Apparently that may likely have been the case. What you may be failing to appreciate is the reality of what takes place during combat. He wasn't speaking directly with those controlling the drones or even the C&C for the area. He was in communication with more remote C&C. Obviously, as it wouldn't be permissible to insert an aid convoy directly into local force communications. It takes time to move data to the proper units. All indications are this attack lasted no more than 1 or 2 minutes. The US does this much more efficiently with several redundant layers. But this is well beyond Israel's capability.
     
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    False on every count.
     
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    The chain of command must be seriously flawed because this has happened multiple times recently.

    Either that or this is deliberate targeting of aid workers.

    I'm going with both considering this war has seen the most aid workers killed in the history of wars.
     
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    Maybe you have comprehension problems. Try carefully to read all the words next time. Now see If I say anything about 'aide' There might be something relevant in there.
     
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    10 o'clock at night so really that little piece of paper taped to the hoods of military vehicles really can't be seen. All they can see is military trucks going down the road.
     
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    When did I specify my religious disposition?

    You see? When you live in a world of daydreaming fantasies it’s such an easy bubble to pop
     
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    Israel isn't made of money. It's at war. Gees, should we have fed Japan and Germany in WWII? We had rationing for our own people.
     
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    Count ‘em. Or provide a credible source that does it for you. What’s the number and how does it compare to other figures from comparable historical examples. You say it’s “the most”. Worthless words. Do better
     
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