Aid to Gaza suspended after Israel murders World Central Kitchen workers

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    That was just a temporary situation. So why didn't the US abide by the Geneva Agreement for a referendum to reunify Vietnam which was achieved 20 years later when the goodies won the American War and the baddies lost and went home.
     
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    But the US did attack Vietnam using bombers and other armaments and Agent Orange etc, and committed war crimes and crimes against humanity.. And they even wanted to nuke the Vietnamese to support the French Colonialists.
    Again you have no understanding of history.
     
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    Wrong. The US financed the French Colonialists against the Vietnamese after WW2 and even wanted to nuke the Vietnamese at Dien Bien Phu in 1954, and supplied B-26 bombers etc.
     
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    The US aided the French against communism.
     
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    You can't prove the reality of a story book. Nothing in the bible is provable. Your position is simply illogical.
     
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    The US aided the democratic south against the communist north.
     
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    The US was attacked in the Bay of Tonkin. The US then aided the democratic south against the communist north.
     
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    Why didn’t the UN act?
     
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    Your “goodies” killed millions of people after the US left. That's a warped sense of goodness.
     
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    I didn't ask the poster to prove the reality of a storybook. I asked him to prove that the Palestinians are descendants of ancient non-Jewish Canaanites. That was his point.
     
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    Yep, Hamas literally calls the radical leftists on the west as useful idiots. BTW Hamas and other Islamists routinely say Israel first and then the west is next.
     
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    I'm an atheist, too.

    It's the Biblical account of Moses leading the Israelites out of Egyptian captivity. On that trek, Moses went up a mountain and after a time descended from the mountain with the tablets with the ten commandments, he became enraged as some of his people had chosen to worship idols in his absence. He broke the tablets in rage. As punishment, God forbade he from leading his people into the promised land. When Moses died, Joshua led the Israelites, and upon reaching Jericho, God helped with the slaughter of the people who were there. As a result of the slaughter, other city states were much less willing to fight.

    There is much more detail from before Egyptian captivity, during, and after conquest, obviously.
     
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    For decades, the US has worked for Israeli Zionism.

    During most of that period, the US has defended Israel in the world community of nations and has provided weapons for Israel to use against Palestinians. We stand by, even today, as Israel bulldozes the homes of Palestinians in West Bank, denying representation - where Palestinian leadership has worked hard for negotiated, nonviolent solutions against the power of the USA and Israel.

    As far as Palestine is concerned, the US has been useful idiots. And that refers to the whole USA - not some segment that YOU don't like.
     
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    Sure. One could start with the Likud party charter.

    One could read what Netanyahu states are objectives.

    One could read Yoav Galant.

    The stated objective IS genocide - the view that every Palestinian is a legitimate military target and that since they are no more than animals, they may be starved to death.

    This IS Zionism today. And, we also see it playing out in West Bank, with ethnic cleansing atrocities.
     
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    History certainly does NOT vindicate the stupendous blunders of our assault on Vietnam.
     
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    But the US had actually won the war but LBJ gave it away. As a result millions died. Biden is attempting to do the same thing in Gaza. If necessary Israel will go it alone but if so that is an unforgiveable action by the Biden administration who is acting in the interests of Hamas and against the interests of Gazan civilians and Israel.
     
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    Nixon escalated the war in Vietnam until finding that winning was not possible and was politically untenable.

    Biden has spent his political career steadfastly supporting Israel, including their siege of Gaza and their colonization of West Bank, including the atrocities of ethnic cleansing. This is a continuation of US policy over the last decades and is the reason Hamas points to the USA as useful idiots - supplying political cover and military equipment to Israel without any influence on what Israel does with such major aid - even when Israel breaks every principle the USA claims to stand for.

    Demanding that Gaza's civilians be fed is not an assault on Israel and is certainly NOT against the interests of those citizens.
     
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    Biden is not supporting Israel. He is de facto supporting Hamas.

    Hamas is responsible the conditions in Gaza. That’s why Gazan civilians want a speedy Israeli eradication of Hamas so that Gaza can return to the safety, security, and economic prosperity they enjoyed when Israel provided security and economic investment.
     
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    Wrong. The US never "actually won the war" and didn't have a clue why they were attacking Vietnam and who they were attacking, and were just supporting a minority of elite people in charge of a corrupt police state with zero democracy, but not the majority of Vietnamese people.

    When I was there in 1970 even some of our local workers on the ALSG base in Vung Tau were part of the Viet Cong while other members of their families were on the other side to appease both sides. On a recent trip I had to smile when I walked into the temple for Ho Chi Minh (who was a Christian) which was built on the former site of the ALSG HQ. And the hospital site where l worked in the pathology lab and the swimming pool site where I played water polo are now five star hotels. But I didn't climb up the Jesus statue with my daughter which was built after I worked there and sailed and swam at the beach.
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    What has he done to stop the major new Israeli assault on West Bank?

    You are totally dreaming. Pushing Israel to allow Gaza's citizens to not starve to death isn't support for Hamas.
     
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    So where are the descendants of the ancient non-Jewish Canaanites if they're not the Palestinians. Either way the Zionists don't have an inherited right over that area.
     
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    Why were they in the Bay of Tonkin? And the south was not democratic, and there were no communes or kibbutzes (ie communist settlements) in the north either.
     
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    So what was good about butchering all the women and children in My Lai and other towns. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Lai_massacre
    And what was good about spraying the women and children with agent orange and napalm etc and burning their houses.
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    It is interesting how one poster gets banned then a supposedly new user registers posting the exact same disinformation.
     
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    The US had the war won but LBJ gave it away just like Obama and Biden is attempting to do in Gaza.
     
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