Trump now running on defending Obamacare and opposing an abortion ban...

So now it turns out that Trump has NEVER had any intention to repeal Obamacare. That's a "lie" made up by "Sleepy Joe".
https://www.msnbc.com/way-too-early...y-wants-to-make-obamacare-better-208845893722

In truth, Trump's only two bills he worked really really hard on during his administration were the bill to give tax breaks to billionaires, and the bill to repeal Obamacare (saved by McCain's famous "thumb down" exist from the Senate)

We are also supposed to believe that he opposes a national abortion ban....
https://apnews.com/article/abortion...lection-2024-585faf025a1416d13d2fbc23da8d8637

Clearly, after overturning Roe v Wade, he is underestanding that women are realizing what this means. And he's trying to win them back. Never mind conservatives. He believes they will vote for him no matter WHAT he says.

This proves that Trump has NO principles of his own. He will do and say whatever he believes will get him more votes. So why do you think he is going to work on any of the policies you THINK he will implement?

I think there will be ONE and ONLY one issue that Trump would be working on if he's elected. Not healthcare, not abortion, ... not even immigration. It will be overturning the 22nd Amendment. But once that proves impossible, votes will no longer matter. So he will have a choice to make: try to become a dictator by force, or step down. If he decides to become a dictator, obviously votes won't matter to him. And if he decides to step down, votes won't matter because he can't be re-elected. But he will not be moving a finger to achieve any of the policies he is promising you now.

But the fact is that Trump has NO principles whatsoever. Everything you hear from him are phrases that he thinks might earn him more votes. But it will all be moot once votes don't matter.

 

Actually, it proves that you may have some of the same deficiencies you accuse others of. He's not for a Federal ban and personally he supports States adopting a 2nd trimester ban with all the exceptions, which is in line with the vast majority of the American People.

IN OUR CONSTITUTIONAL LIBERAL DEMOCRACY:
‘The States may, if they wish, permit abortion on demand,” Justice Antonin Scalia wrote in his coruscating 1992 opinion, mostly dissenting, in Planned Parenthood v. Casey. Abortion could also be banned, just as the states have banned bigamy.'

'As to the matter of abortion, “the Constitution says absolutely nothing about it.” In American democracy, our default method for resolving the most important questions confronting the body politic is “citizens trying to persuade one another and then voting.”'

Some Dems really hate the idea of Free Americans discussing, attempting to persuade one another and then voting.

'The federal government is one of limited powers, conferred on it by the Constitution’s express commands. Beyond that, it is supposed to be restrained to only those unmentioned powers that must be inferred, lest the express commands be nullified. When the Constitution says absolutely nothing about a subject, then it is not a subject as to which We the People of the United States vested authority in the federal government.'

You're biggest problem with Trump's position, is that he is right.

https://archive.ph/MAIRj#selection-1037.80-1037.504

 

Trump is a liberal. He’s no conservative and never has been

 

So the man that said he was going to delete the ACA and personally caused all of the abortion mess by purposely placing three justices that he knew would rule a specific way is now acting like he endorses them?

ROFL

The funny thing is his base will lap it up and scream this is a winning strategy

 

I don’t think he is a liberal or a conservative — he simply does or says what he thinks will benefit himself the most.

I really don’t see how such an individual has completely consumed your party that was once pretty respectable and held firm and defendable positions

 

I've never ran for office so that's an empty statement.

It's clear that Trump has no position on anything whatsoever. He'll just say whatever he thinks will get him some votes. This is why he made NO effort to pass any sort of significant legislation during his administration. Only twice, did he even actually really TRY: his tax breaks for the rich... which he was interested in because it benefited HIM. And repealing obamacare, which he failed, and never really made much of an effort after that. So now it turns out that voters are supposed to believe that Biden "lies" when he said that Trump had attempted to repeal it. And that the fact is that he'll "strengthen" obamacare.

I'm sure MAGAs will believe him. They'll believe ANYTHING that comes out of his mouth. But they'll vote for him anyway. I doubt anybody else believes him.

 

I'd say Trump is a trumpist... and nothing more. But you are correct in the sense that when he DID express some sort of ideology in the past (when he was young), he was very much a liberal. It's just that now he's completely a-ideological.

 

Fake news. Being an office holder is necessary to be largely without principles.

And that bothers you... why?

His position on abortion if perfectly defendable, which I explained and you did not address. If you don't wish to defend your own claims, that says plenty about them.

As I pointed out to you before, your biggest problem with Trump is that he's right.

'The federal government is one of limited powers, conferred on it by the Constitution’s express commands. When the Constitution says absolutely nothing about a subject, then it is not a subject as to which We the People of the United States vested authority in the federal government.'

Abortion is not mentioned in the US Constitution, therefore regulating it is reserved to the States or We The People exercising our personal choices.

'states retain in their respective territories authority over matters not expressly delegated to Washington. Those matters have always been understood to include health and safety. That is why, pre-Roe, the action on abortion was at the state level.'

https://archive.ph/MAIRj#selection-1109.94-1113.48

So, abortion is up to the States if they choose to regulate it, and up to each person individually if the state chooses not to regulate it.

Trump personally supports a ban somewhere in the 2nd trimester, with all the exceptions.

 

He isn't a liberal, either. Trump is for Trump. He doesn't care who supports him, as long as he can use his supporters to get what he wants for himself. The right was just a softer target for him than the left.

 

They already are, right here on this very thread.

 

I disagree. I think his border policies resonate with the right for sure. Other than that and the judges he appoints, he is definitely liberal.

 

You actually think you have persuaded somebody? Ha!

 

I'm not voting for him for either of those issues. He killed the individual mandate, so IDC about Obamacare anymore. I don't like abortion so I dont buy them. So long as that remains true, get all the abortions you want, or dont, nonmuhbidness.

I don't care about his 'principles' either. JFK was our greatest president ever and he inherited a fortune made running mob moonshine and cheated on his wife like it was going out of style. That didn't effect the nation in the slightest- so IDC.

Trump opposes the entrenched, captured bureacucracy that rules from outside the confines of public oversight (and has been trying to toss him in prison). He opposes international corporate mandates from big money think tanks (because he's a civic nationalist), he opposes foreign wars, and he (now) seems to understand his political support comes from people who hate the idea of gun control. He opposes cultural collectivism and doesn't think we need to shelter all the worlds poor. These are the policies I'm interested in. Not whether he'd be fit to marry my daughter or whether we go to the same church or if we like the same sportsball game...

 

The 9th.

 

Except that trump is incompetent.

 

I'm a liberal. Trump's views are nothing like mine. I find the idea of Trump being a liberal insulting.

Trump doesn't give a crap about ideology and never has.

 

Trump cares about Trump That was so very clear when he blocked the Bipartisan Senate Immigration bill. The hell with America. Let the immigrants in during 2024. Let the fentanyl in.

 

How can anyone take him seriously?? He has no clear position on anything. and his position changes with the current breeze.

 

None of the issues the concern the general public ,mater to him. He is so removed from the real world and so absorbed with himself , that anything he says is subject to change on a whim. His opinions are not based on substance.

 

He has NO position on anything. He reacts to whatever comes down from the Dems and says the opposite. He is super critical of everything........but offers no viable , substantive alternatives. The only evasive and non descriptive terms he uses is that he would do so much better , but no solid specifics. . His words are empty , evasive and meaningless .They are filled with vitriolic rage, resentment and intent on revenge.

 

'Incompetent' enough to obstruct globalism for 4 years. Ill take another 4.

 

That's fake news.

His view that regulating abortion is not listed in the constitution as a federal power is absolutely sound.
Therefore in can be regulated by the States, unless the States choose not to, in which case it's up to the individual's conscience.

Personally he supports a ban at some point during the 2nd trimester, with all the exceptions, which is a position that probably 2/3rds of the American People agree with.

At what point do you support banning abortion? Do you support abortion up to and even including partially birthed?

 

So changing his mind on an issue is a bad thing right? That means that someone has no principles.

So no one else who was president has ever changed their mind on any matters of principle?

Are you going to apply the same standard to the person currently occupying the White House?

Of course not and everyone knows that.

 

I think Trump is losing it, lol

 

Is that his position on elective abortions ? How about acute medical situations that put the mother's life at high risk. Or when it is KNOWN via diagnoses , that the fetus is grossly abnormal and would not survive or thrive ?
My views?? They are my private matter. But they involve medical care staff. Each situation is different and has to be dealt with on an individual and personal way .with respect to all concerned.