Trump now running on defending Obamacare and opposing an abortion ban...

Easy enough
Abortion
Gun control
COVID Lockdown measures
Leaving Afghanistan
Advocated for less troops in Germany
Largely a non interventionist
Free money during COVID
Free rent during COVID
Pro vaccine and okay with fast track vaccine
Prison reform

conservative ideals
Taxes
Judges
Border

he’s definitely more left than right. Biden is farther left than him but he is not right

 

You say that Trump lacks a clear articulated position on Abortion, yet everyone knows what Trump's position is.

Do you support partial birth abortion?

Trump's position is constitutionally sound and aligned with the great majority of the American People.

What about your position, or the position of extremist Democrats?

Further, much of the election is likely to turn on the economy.



'the obvious fact that Trump's presidency went far better than Biden's.'

Biden 'did horribly while crowing about how great they are doing.'

'Is it a surprise people have concluded that Biden and company hate them?'

'People haven't forgotten why they disliked Trump--many of them still do--but they also believe they were better off when he was president.'

https://hotair.com/david-strom/2024/04/14/sunday-smiles-n3786499

 

Maybe you can supply his quotes in gays or trans that indicate as you say, I won’t hold my breath.

 

Are you glad that the racist president that you support changed his position on opposing segregating schools by busing? You know, the guy that claimed that he didn't want his children growing up in a racial jungle or claims that he can tell someone whether they're black or not based on who they vote for?

Now go ahead and do what you always do and erase the inconvenient parts above that you're not going to have the courage to respond to.

 

We would have to hold a GoFundMe here at PF to pay for your final wishes if you held your breath waiting on that....lol

 

Trump has NO position on abortion. He makes it up as he goes along, and depending on what he thinks at that moment voters want to hear. Like when he said women who have abortion should be punished. He just makes it up as he goes.

 

That's fake news. His view is stated, constitutionally sound, and shared by the majority of the American People.

What's the Left's view on abortion a week before natural birth?

 

Ok let’s start with “partial birth abortion” because it has been banned since the Bush era.

 

Bunkum it is - he is flip flopping on this faster than a windmill in a cyclone

 

In fact, more likely it's shared by ALL the American People. Because he has probably stated just about ALL the positions that exist.

That's what demagogues do. And the reason it works is because so many people listen only to the one THEY want to hear and sorta tune out the ones they don't want to hear.

It's an old trick. Sorry to hear you fell for it. But it doesn't look like any amount of reason is going to bring you out of it so... good luck! You're on your own...

 

He has no reasonable position of abortion.
It's not up to the fed or State gov't.

Men in capitol cities has no business telling women and their doctors what they can and can't do about reproductive health.

 

How many middle eastern, especially from muslim countries we don't align with do we sell alcohol from?
If the answer is 0, that's because we use our politics and global power to limit products from those countries.
Meaning, market forces are not allowed to flow freely.

Man dictates how markets flow. And man won't let things flow freely.

 

Baloney. Market forces only work among allies.

Didn't Europe has Natural Gas issues after Russian invaded Ukraine because of Europe's support of Ukraine?

Natural market forces would let Russia still want to sell to Europe.

trump would not put tariffs on countries. Tariffs are anti natural market forces.

 

Sounds like another great example of globalism- using political power to disrupt international trade. Would I be correct in assuming that trade from these countries is being restricted in attempt to coerce them into going along with a political agenda? If you could cite one country in particular and via what law or policy we're limiting their trade, I would find that interesting.

 

You claim trump was no globalist.
Did we import products from non ally countries? From hard core muslim countries.

You know, tariffs are not free market natural economies. trump put out tariffs.
There's no such action as natural markets. Man make and control markets.

 

Are you able to cite one country in particular and/or via what law or policy we're limiting their trade?

Tarriffs would technically count as an aspect of globalism I suppose. But in certain cases (like the use of slave labor) I think most people would agree that a little coersion to prevent it is in order. Unless you have a better idea on how to prevent slave-wages in totalitarian nations from driving our own manufacturing wages down to poverty levels... not to mention the moral dilemma of supporting slavery...

 

Actually you seem frustrated that trump has adopted a constitutionally sound, politically mainstream position on abortion.

Does the Left support banning the slaughter of perfectly healthy babies, that are no threat to the health of the mother, a few weeks before natural delivery?

 

And that would be?

Doesn’t happen even in “no abortion laws at all” Canada

 

There is only consistency I have found in Trump other than his self interest dominating virtually everything else. I have NEVER seen him promote any policy, or any position that in any way uplifted or benefited those who were darker skinned than he and his white caucasian class. He just never seems to find an occasion when he does not support his perception of the 'whiter' culture or country over a darker skinned one. Its even more consistent than his adoration of dictators and their use of power over democracies. I don't think he is anti-immigration, or anti illegal immigration because its politically expediant. I don't think he likes or trusts dark skinned mexicans, cubans, haitians, period!

Tell me if you can find an example proving me wrong.

 

Trump does oppose a Federal abortion ban, which a constitutionally sound position.

In our Constitutionals Liberal Democracy, powers not granted to the Federal Government are reserved to the States, and to the People.

What's your position on abortion. Can you name any lawmakers on the Left that oppose abortion in the final month of a perfectly healthy pregnancy?

 

Can't believe anything Trump says. Nothing.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/09/politics/trump-abortion-stances-timeline/index.html

15 times Trump’s abortion position shifted over the past 25 years

October 24, 1999 --“I’m very pro-choice,”

 

Your entire racialist paradigm is wrong. You view everything through the lens of race. That is a very extreme way of looking at things that most Americans do not share.

Many on the Left are a complete panic that middle and working class Asians, Latinos and Blacks are moving toward Trump. The key to understanding this is that they simply voting with the rest of the Working and Middle Class, that is, they are politically aligning by class rather than skin color, which upends the careful work that too much of the Left has invested to divide us by race and put us at each other's throats.

And getting back to abortion. Trump's view is constitutionally sound and in alignment with the great majority of the American people, whereas, do you know anyone political figure in the elected Democrat Party or national office holder, who doesn't support abortion of even healthy pregnancies, right up to the instant of birth, if not a bit beyond?

No wonder the Left never wants to discuss their own extremism, that's not defensible to the majority of the American People.

 

Trump flip-flops on abortion. In 2016, he promised a federal ban, but failed to deliver, even with a GOP-dominate House and Senate.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/10/politics/trump-says-he-wouldnt-sign-federal-abortion-ban/index.html

He takes "credit" for the reversal of Roe (certainly not something a liberal would do), and is now using that as an excuse to avoid stating his views on it, saying it's now a states issue and a federal ban is unnecessary.

Trump's gun control views:

https://www.texastribune.org/2022/05/27/donald-trump-nra-houston/

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-vows-undo-biden-gun-restrictions-if-re-elected-2024-02-10/

https://www.voanews.com/a/trump-say...ger-on-your-firearms-if-he-wins-/7482066.html

"Former U.S. President Donald Trump told thousands of members of the National Rifle Association that "no one will lay a finger on your firearms" if he returns to the White House, and he bragged that during his time as president he "did nothing" to curb guns."

As for COVID, he mostly did what the voices closest to him advised at first, since most of the world was in panic mode at that time. As the months in 2020 went on, he did as much as he could to be dismissive of the pandemic and the mask and glove directives.

Trump didn't pull us out of Afghanistan, he just talked about it. And that was probably because most of us wanted our troops out of there. After two decades, if you haven't accomplished your goal, it's past time to move on. Even Trump's sycophant advisers knew that it would be a cluster****, and there was an election coming . . .

How is "advocating for less troops in Germany" a liberal thing? That's what Putin wants, and we all know how much Trump admires that murderous thug.

Non-intervention is also not a liberal thing. First y'all accuse liberals of being globalist, and now you point the isolationist finger? Please pick just one.

The CARES Act was passed by congress, not Trump.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/CARES_Act

Trump knew that it was too popular to veto, and since it passed via bipartisan vote, he knew congress would override.

Being pro-vaccine is not limited to liberals.

Prison reform is also a bipartisan issue.

 

I did not ask you your opinion on the question I posed, because frankly, I just don't respect your opinion on Trump or race. Its too hyperpartisan, too extremist and too inflated with constant hyperbole, just like the ultra right wing crap you have posted in this thread. . When you write rational cogent material worthy of a response, I provide one.

 

Trump is the worst for gun control. He literally is the first president in history to unilaterally pass a confiscate and destruction order on a legally designated firearm (the bump stock). He also spoke about banning suppressors and largely in favor of red flag laws. I don’t know what you read but history proves he was one of the worst for gun rights.


Trump is however in favor of abortion now. That is definitely liberal. And liberals have always been non interventionists. Was the hippie movement not a left wing movement? How about these kids that are pro Hamas, do they align with the far left squad or the right wing in politics? How many republicans were a fan of pulling out of Afghanistan? Trumps a leftist here for sure.

hate to bust your bubble but he is not a conservative