Trump now running on defending Obamacare and opposing an abortion ban...

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  1. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    He opposes AND favors it. Depends on what the polls say at the moment will get him elected. When asked about his OWN position, he'll make it up right on the spot. For example, when he favored criminal prosecution for women who have abortions.

    Bottom line: he has NO position of his own. And, if he were elected, he would NOT lift a finger to promote any position because... he doesn't have one. If something that benefits him falls on his lap, he'll sign it. That's how his last time in the presidency went. What in the world would make anybody believe that this time it would be any different? Other than blind faith, of course... The ONLY thing that has changed is that this time around, votes won't matter to him because he can't get reelected.
     
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    Fake News. He favors the states handling it, which is constitutionally sound.

    Can you name a single Democrat high official who is not for aborting a perfectly healthy pregnancy up to the moment of birth?

    How about you? Are you good with that?
     
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    Actually you did. You asked for an example, on a public debate board on which I correspond, that is unanswerable by anyone who does not adopt your world view that divides us by skin color rather than class.

    Voters are moving more by class than race, this election, which I carefully explained to you. You're welcome!
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    The states handling it is idiotic. Why would a woman in one state have a right to their own body, but not women in another? Biologically a pregnant woman is a pregnant woman no matter where they live. Off-topic, though. The constitution is also NOT the topic of this thread.

    What IS significant is how you desperately try to change the topic. When that happens it's ALWAYS a sign that the poster has no arguments to defend his/her position about the REAL matter being discussed.

    I'm just pointing out the fact, so don't bother insisting on your red herring. Throwing a line to see if I'll bail you out from your lack of arguments is not going to work. Thanks for playing....
     
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    Got it. Natural markets don't exist. Some coercion is needed, as you said.

    How much trade do we do with Iran?
     
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    MAGA is code for something different. Great should be replaced with the word white.
    But of course, stating it was a no no and posts were deleted when that was suggested.
     
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    You will never convince a hard core trump supporter that he has ever flip flopped on anything.
    OR that he failed in doing what he promised.
    He never did anything while in office.
    His biggest achievement, impeached 2X and lost as incumbent.
    Talk about the most incompetent ever.

    Oh, rich got permanent tax breaks and the embassy in Israel was moved.
     
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    Fake news is what you must follow.

    For trump wanted a federal ban at 20 weeks.

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    President Trump is pushing for a 20-week abortion ban

    On Friday, Jan. 19, President Donald Trump became the first sitting U.S. president to address the pro-life March for Life convention via satellite broadcast. During his remarks to the antiabortion rights group, Trump voiced his support for a federal ban on all abortion after 20 weeks gestational age, actively calling on the Senate to vote on the measure, which has already passed the House, and send it to his desk for signature into law.

    https://www.npr.org/2024/04/10/1243...-ban-arizona-supreme-court-florida-6-week-ban
     
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    That equals "The Constitution is Idiotic".

    And we have certainly noticed how inconvenient our constitution that safeguards us from tyranny is to the mad authoritarians within the Left.

    Have you figured whether you or any other major figure in the Democrat Party supports banning partial birth abortion? Trump's position is clear, articulated, constitutionally sound and in step with the majority of the American People. How about the Biden's? How about yours?
     
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    If you ever read the Bob Woodward books on Trump, it was abundantly clear he was never interested in actually going about the duties of being president. His attention could not be held during meetings. Often choosing to just go with his gut on things instead of listen to experts or do any research. Dude was constantly on his phone. He wouldn't read the briefings beyond maybe skim the first page at best. He would start late because he needed to watch Fox and Friends. Moreover, he would spend so much time watching Fox News it became a main way of getting him interested in issues. When he spoke of the foreign countries he visited, he would speak of how well they treated him. How they rolled out the red carpet, and how great everything looked.

    He loved the idea of being president, being that big important man and having everyone revere him. But doing the work? Expending actual effort? Not exactly something he cared about. And it shows with his lack of accomplishments and overall effort in doing much of anything besides tweeting. The biggest thing he claims credit for - the three supreme court justice picks and ultimate overturning of Roe - was really something McConnell had a lot more to do with.
     
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    I don't see gadgets like bumb stocks and suppressors as "gun rights." They have no purpose other than to allow one to kill more people faster. They should not be legal, and most Americans, left and right, agree. Trump understands public pressure. Also, most Americans, left and right, favor red flag laws that protect domestically abused women.

    As for abortion, please link to Trump stating that he favors abortion, other than from decades ago.

    You aren't busting anything. I already stated that he is neither left nor right. Trump doesn't give a crap about ideology, he just uses whatever language he thinks will get him votes. He uses the right to get what he wants, never what they want. It's too bad most don't see how they've been bamboozled.

    I'm an aging hippie, and no, we have never been about non-intervention when it was not necessary for anyone but corporations, such as the Vietnam conflict, which we conducted almost solely on behalf of the French-based Michelin tire company. Compare that to how those same liberals did not object when we intervened in Bosnia. That was about people being brutalized. Since I was there back then and you weren't, maybe you shouldn't challenge me on that era.

    The young people making most of the noise about Palestine (not so much Hamas) are too young to have lived through the dozens of outbreaks of violence by and towards Israel since its beginning. Every generation thinks it can "fix" the middle east. Let them roar, let them vote, and arrest those who use violence. Same ****, different era.
     
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    Trump appreciates your vote change.
     
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    Doesn’t matter how you see it. It was a legally defined gun. Meaning it was the first ever gun confiscation and destruction order done by anyone
     
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    He was the most incompetent president in history.

    That's why he lost as the incumbent AND impeached 2X.
    He even bragged about not taking responsibility.
    Finger pointing is his biggest accomplishment and failed the country in dealing with covid.
     
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    Trump's Abortion position is constitutionally sound, in step with the electorate, and bipartisan.

    Cuellar Bucks Democrats with Position on Abortion - Leave it to the States

    Rep. Henry Cuellar (D-TX)

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    A Democrat With True Courage Stands Up:

    'Cuellar boldly says that abortion should be left as a state issue and that the Democrat Party should allow differing beliefs on the issue.'

    "allow" - Free Thinking Americans don't need the DNC's permission to have a different opinion than the DNC.

    '“It should be left up to the states,” Cuellar told us. “I’m a big believer in the big tent theory and I think [Democrats] should allow people with different religious beliefs when it comes to that.”'

    Again - "allow". And this admission is from a DNC insider.
     

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