The enemy within.

One more time...the OP is about Russian propaganda. They are using bogus sites to convey propaganda. I didn't mention Fox. The OP didn't cite Fox. But if you want to remain stuck on that, I guess we're done.

 

The nature of the Russian trolling operations and its fake news efforts were described in detail in the Meuller Report.

The existence of FsSB troll farms was first discussed in the Times as far ba k as 2016.

No one doubts that these efforts are still ongoing.

When Republican politicians bemoan the influence of Russian propoganda amongst their own colleagues, something is up.

Of course, the target audience always tries to deny that they were conned.

 

I am but a humble messenger.

GOP Rep. Mike Turner said Sunday that Russian propaganda has taken hold among some of his House Republican colleagues and is even "being uttered on the House floor."

"We see directly coming from Russia ... communications that are anti-Ukraine and pro-Russia messages, some of which we even hear being uttered on the House floor," Turner, chair of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, said in an interview on CNN's "State of the Union."

"There are members of Congress today who still incorrectly say that this conflict between Russia and Ukraine is over NATO, which of course it is not," he added.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/co...ian-propaganda-uttered-house-floor-rcna146760

“In the course of this investigation, I would ask that you please not promote politically driven falsehoods that so clearly advance Russian interests,” she told them. She was referring to comments they had made during her earlier deposition, remarks that breathed life into a baseless, Trump-backed suggestion that Ukraine, rather than Russia, interfered in the 2016 U.S. election.

“These fictions are harmful even if they’re deployed for purely domestic political purposes,” she added.

Republicans on the committee blanched at the suggestion that they had served as conduits for Russian misinformation, but Hill refused to back down. Five years later, Republicans are starting to grapple more publicly with the idea that this kind of thing is happening in their ranks.

In an interview with Puck News’s Julia Ioffe, Rep. Michael McCaul (R-Tex.) — none other than the GOP chairman of the House Foreign Affairs Committee — flat-out said that Russian propaganda has “infected a good chunk of my party’s base.” McCaul suggested conservative media was to blame.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...can-says-russian-propaganda-has-infected-gop/

See how easy doing research is when you don't want to avoid finding info in contradiction to your beliefs.

 

And JD Vance was spreading the yacht myth:

Luxury yachts and other myths: How Republican lawmakers echo Russian propaganda

 

List of 20 lines parroted in FOX which are 100% in line with Russian propaganda

Fox News: Putin Propaganda Primetime
Here are the top 20 anti-Ukraine, pro-Russia claims and arguments that Fox viewers are hearing.
https://www.thebulwark.com/p/fox-news-putin-propaganda-primetime

1. America is marching into a world war. On Saturday night, Fox host Dan Bongino warned viewers that “the U.S. is slow-walking its way directly into World War III.”

2. Lower the temperature. In his Friday monologue, Cain proposed that “given” Russia’s nuclear threats, “Every NATO country now needs to answer a very basic question: How are you going to lower the temperature?

3. Putin is invincible. No matter how many losses Putin suffers in Ukraine, the appeasement caucus insists he can never truly be defeated. “There is no way Putin is going to give in,” Gutfeld scoffed on Friday.

4. Submit to any nuclear threat. Last week, Carlson called for immediate capitulation to Russia. “Putin is making nuclear threats,” he noted. “Whatever the reason he is making them, the fact he is making them . . . is enough for any responsible person to say, ‘Now we stop.’”

5. Helping Ukraine just prolongs the suffering. “We just keep sending billions and billions and billions of dollars” to Ukraine, Gutfeld complained on Friday.

6. Give peace a chance. “I don’t understand the problem with the P-word,” Gutfeld pleaded on Monday. He fretted that “everybody is pro-war,” and “we’re just pouring the money in.”

7. Helping Ukraine costs too much. Ingraham, Carlson, Gutfeld, and other conservatives complain about the war’s price tag.

8. Sanctions hurt us, not Russia.

9. Split the difference. “Picking sides” between Ukraine and Russia is “folly,” Gutfeld told Fox viewers on Friday.

10. Russia only wants part of Ukraine. On Monday night, Carlson and Greenwald argued that the stakes in Ukraine weren’t worth risking nuclear war. The stakes aren’t “even Ukraine,” said Greenwald. They’re just “the Donbas, the eastern region in Ukraine, where a majority of people actually identify as ethnic Russians and want to be part of Russia.”

 

Well done.

 

I look at those and I do not disagree with most. We have to be very careful with Ukraine. It could very easily escalate to a nuclear war.

BTW. I listen to Gutfeld and I can't recall him saying any of those things. I suspect they are made up quotes. Piers Margan has been a frequent guest on The Five and that sounds more like Piers.

 

Ahem, let's try this again. Show me the trail of Kremlin Propaganda from the Kremlin to GOP lawmakers.

 

Amazing that you don't realize that you totally failed to prove your point.

However it does explain a lot.

 

Didn't stop you with Biden.

 

Democrats are the real threat to the USA.

 

Read the MuellerReport.

 

Have you written about blocking streets and bridges? What happens when an ambulance is blocked and someone dies, which is perfectly predictable, do you support negligent homicide charges for the Soros backed organizers?

Pro-Hamas Protests Foreshadow a Summer of Upheaval

These folks are 'peace activists' they are for the other side.

 

Classic whataboutism!

 

If you can't do it you can't do it.

I get it. Thanks for playing. I couldn't make my point without you lefties helping me.

 

Your “point” is typically self serving and dishonest:

https://www.factcheck.org/2022/03/marjorie-taylor-greene-parrots-russian-talking-point-on-ukraine/


https://firstamendmentcoalition.org/2022/04/conservatives-parrot-russian-propaganda-on-ukraine/

https://www.businessinsider.com/tommy-tuberville-says-ukraine-cant-win-russian-propaganda-2023-8

https://foreignpolicy.com/2022/10/1...ons-russia-propaganda-war-ukraine-candidates/

 

It's not my point. It's the point of two Repub committee chairmen. I am but a humble messenger.

 

Secret Russian foreign policy document urges action to weaken the U.S.

Russia’s Foreign Ministry has been drawing up plans to try to weaken its Western adversaries, including the United States, and leverage the Ukraine war to forge a global order free from what it sees as American dominance, according to a secret Foreign Ministry document.

In a classified addendum to Russia’s official — and public — “Foreign Policy Concept of the Russian Federation,” the ministry calls for an “offensive information campaign” and other measures spanning “the military-political, economic and trade and informational psychological spheres” against a “coalition of unfriendly countries” led by the United States.

“We need to continue adjusting our approach to relations with unfriendly states,” states the 2023 document, which was provided to The Washington Post by a European intelligence service. “It’s important to create a mechanism for finding the vulnerable points of their external and internal policies with the aim of developing practical steps to weaken Russia’s opponents.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2024/04/17/russia-foreign-policy-us-weaken/

According to two Repub committee chairmen the "offensive information campaign" is being aided by some congressional Repubs. Of course we know it's being aided by some right wing media outlets.

 

Would it shock you to know that I consider them both incorrect?

 

Wow you were embarrassed and decided to fire back! Of course I knew that your links would be BS but I did give you the courtesy of actually looking at them, just in case there was a real "gotcha" moment that I had missed.

Nope. Poor you. I think my question:

...might turn into the PF challenge.

Nothing said is being traced to the Kremlin. Instead, what you guys are trying to pass off as "Russian propaganda" is fairly obvious stuff. For example, If MTG said that the sky is blue and Moscow also says the sky is blue, that doesn't mean that's Russian Propaganda. More directly, Tuberville pointing out that Ukraine can't win against Russia isn't propaganda, it's true. There is no version of this that Ukraine beats the Russians and kicks them out the country (unless NATO decided to get directly involved and instigate World War III). If you think otherwise, either you are spewing propaganda or you're simply stupid.

Calling fairly factual points propaganda is going to make you guys look like fools when this all comes to ahead and I'm going to gleefully remind all of you how wrong you were.

 

Of course not. Of course you know better than Repub committee chairmen in the House who said, without reason to lie, that Repub House members have essentially repeated Russian talking points. After all, admitting they know better than you is to admit you're wrong. And we can't have that can we?

 

How so? Take this one for example. https://www.factcheck.org/2022/03/marjorie-taylor-greene-parrots-russian-talking-point-on-ukraine/

 

They've yet to demonstrate they know better than me, in spite having every advantage for that to be true.

 

Sure

“government only exists because the Obama State Department helped to overthrow the previous regime.”

This has been an issue for years, going back to the Obama administration in which a coup occurred that favored the then current US administration, and we clearly helped with the coup. That doesn't mean that we know for a fact that we started it, but we know we supported it.

So...again, if Russia thinks the same thing, does that make this Russian propaganda?

Again...



If this is Russian propaganda, that means that Moscow some how planted this story with Greene. How did they do that? When did they do it? Let's see this trail of Russian Propaganda.

 

Thank you for that in depth analysis.