Assassinated Iranian general involved in 'planning and execution' of October 7 Hamas massacre: repor

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  1. Pro_Line_FL

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    Iraq never re-built their military after Gulf War-I, so they didn't put up a fight, and opted for insurgency instead.
     
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    I understand people hate the United States playing police. I have news for all those who doubt the importance of this role. You can not be an economic superpower without foreign involvement. You couldn’t name one world superpower that were not conquerers and did not include foreign interests. If we don’t do it someone will and we will become 2nd 3rd 4th maybe 200th in the food chain. If we don’t create stability from our influence someone else will create stability for the purpose of their influence.
     
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    Israel fighting against Iran and its proxies is not a new war. The US has been supporting Israel's right to exist since the UN recognized Israel as a state in 1948. Since the overthrow of the Shah of Iran in 1979 Iran has been waging war against Israel indirectly through its proxies. The US has also been fighting Iran's proxies for decades. Iran would like nothing more than to see the US abandoned Israel.
     
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    Who said anything about abandoning?

    Supporting Israel's right to exist <> Putting US boots on the ground in Iran, because they took revenge on Israel.
     
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    Unfortunately for Saddam he kept insisting Iraq had nuclear weapons. The insurgency began when Brennan decided to disband Iraq's military. The former Iraqi soldiers became mercenaries for the extreme Islamic groups so they could feed their families. It was General Petraeus who made a deal with the former soldiers. The US would pay them to stop fighting against the American forces. It worked.
     
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    I guess you are not paying attention to Biden losing support from the far left Hamas supporters? The Democrats only care about one thing and that is winning even if it means abandoning Israel. This will play out further as November draws near. The WH is desperate.
     
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    Biden....... Democrats........ November...... White House....... You have a habit of posting stuff that has literally nothing to do with what the discussion is about.

    And your claims about US abandoning Israel is borderline absurd given the fact that US has bent over backwards to support them. Heck, we shot down 80 of the drones sent in Israel's direction, and now US Bataan with 2500 Marines was deployed to the area. US declining to take part in a revenge attack on Iran is common sense, and has nothing to do with "abandoning Israel".

    PS Biden never had support of Hamas supporters. How could he, when he want all-in supporting Israel on Day-1.
     
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    They didn’t take revenge on Israel. Israel took revenge on them. The man they killed had helped plan the Oct 7th attack. That was revenge, what Iran did was an escalation.
     
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    I like this comment for the most part other than it makes the decision to not attack Iran look as if it’s right when it’s actually wrong. At the bear minimum we need to hit them, economically hurt them. I would like to see an all out destruction of their government but at a minimum they need to be hurt for their escalation of tensions in the region.

    It’s absolutely stupid and asinine to allow a country to be fully and brazenly attacked by another and tell them oh it’s okay just attack their proxies. That’s a cowards move and you know it. It’s a move that sends Iran the message they can do whatever they want and it’s a move that emboldens Irans proxies of Irans superiority over Israel. It’s absolutely a moronic move by Biden.
     
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    As you wish, but its the same difference. US putting boots on the ground would mean we are taking part in this exchange of revenges, and its common sense to NOT do it.

    Ok, so NOT starting a ground war against Iran in behalf of Israel is cowardly and moronic. Your opinion has been noted. I get it you want to start a war, but its easy to say when you get to watch it on TV while lying on your couch.
     
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    Not revenge… it’s defense. This will never end if we don’t do something. Never!!!! It’s moronic not to end it or we will constantly have to defend Israel from iran
     
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    Under Trump Iran was shooting down their own airliners they were so scared of the United States. Under Biden they sent 300 missiles and drones at our ally. And this is being applauded by the left?
     
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    You actually think that US getting involved in killing a 100 000 or so Iranians would somehow end the ME conflict? Or dear......

    Not even the die hard Neo-Cons like Graham are asking for US to start a war with Iran.

    It was a Ukrainian plane, and you think they shot the missile because they were afraid of US and Trump? Listen to yourself.

    Under Trump they shot then at US bases in Iraq, and Trump did nothing.

    Who is applauding it?

    You are delusional. Have a nice day.
     
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    I absolutely do and if you were honest about it you would admit it. It started by Trump taking out a general on Iraq’s tarmac. Then Iran sent some missiles at American bases. Then they were so scared of retaliation they mistook their own airliner for an American counter attack. You do remember this do you not?
     
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    Of coarse he didn’t do anything. They shot down their own airliner. Why would he give them an excuse to avoid that embarrassment
     
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    Read again: They fired missiles on US bases, injuring over 100 US service members. It has nothing to do with their missile hitting the Ukrainian plane. Did you know we also shot down an Iranian jetliner killing everyone on board? Read about USS Vincennes. According to you it was because they were....scared or something.

    I get it you hate Biden and love Trump, but your posts here are nothing short of absurd. Go join the Israeli military if you want war against Iran.
     
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    You got the last word.
     
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    That region has been at war for thousands of years so let's do something different. Let's throw a gigantic block party and get to know each other on first name basis?
     
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    The Israeli public seems to be sobering to some important realities. But as I have mentioned already, Iran's real nemesis are the neocon types in the US who have been pushing both the US and Israel to see confrontation with Iran as the solution to every problem!

    https://www.i24news.tv/en/news/isra...jority-of-israelis-oppose-retaliating-to-iran
    Poll: Majority of Israelis oppose retaliating to Iran
    Nearly 60 percent of those surveyed in Israel respond U.S. assistance in thwarting the Iranian attack obliges Jerusalem to coordinate its actions with Washington
     
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    ...is unfortunately it's own leadership....instead of hemorrhaging money on its proxies...the Houthis, Hezbollah, Iraqi Shiite militia groups and and....can you imagine what the country could have been like if instead it spent it on improving the country’s infrastructure. Imagine the opportunity of not being a pariah state and instead make Iran an economically prosperous country that has good relationships with other nations. But they chose to piss away their own people and a promising future...so don't go blaming others on the mistakes your semi-literate mad mullahs made.
     
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    When Iran made it clear that it would retaliate to Israel's strike against its consulate albeit in a limited, proportional, strike that would target Israeli military installations only, schools, work, traffic, were closed in Israel, their GPS systems were shut off, half a dozen countries led by the US began running non-stop aerial reconnaisance missions, and you had the Israeli public prepared for their shelters and more.

    Iran has now made it clear that if Israel takes any action, even the tiniest transgression, against its territory or assets outside Iran, it will launch an attack within seconds that would "destroy the Zionist regime".

    Iran won't need trillion dollar satellite and early warning systems to decide when to take Israel's threat of retaliation seriously. All it would need is to look across to see if Israel has closed everything and has its own air force and those of its enablers running non-stop reconnaisance.

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/iran-mood-after-israel-attack-as-netanyahu-mulls-response/

    WORLD
     
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    Actually I was well aware of that incident already. Definitely a stain on our side. We have been at odds with Iran for a very long time. That doesn’t change the fact that we need to put an end to them.
     
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    Iran would be land of waste and rubble if they done that. America would deal with Iran along with our allies.
     
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    Then vote accordingly. Is Trump promising a war with Iran? If so, then vote for him. So far I have not heard even the die hard Neo-Con suggest we should put boots on the ground.
     

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